Event 2025 NBA DRAFT LOTTERY, COMBINE, AND DRAFT (1 Viewer)

Welcome to our community

Be a part of something great, join today!

Register Log in
Natebishop3 said:
I haven’t said anyone is naive. Other people are attacking me for my opinion, calling me a Trumper and a flat earther. I don’t know why it pisses you guys off so much that I think it’s possible that the league rigged it. It’s an opinion. So yeah I told some people to go fuck themselves for calling me a trumper. But I haven’t said anyone is naive.
Click to expand...
You're fine Nate, there's no harm in it from you. You're level headed for the most part, probably more often than I am on here. I'm just complaining about the endless barrage of conspiracies, out there in the world and online. Obviously you're not a flat earther or an election denier or even if you are you don't make anyone on here suffer through constant rambling about it. No, I was just also frustrated with the results of this lottery and am constantly frustrated with the conspiracy culture that's taken hold on our society these days.

If you're not calling anyone naive for not buying the idea that you've been talking about then it was me who was out of line and not you. You do your thing. GO BLAZERS!!! Even on a day when according to me bad luck fucked us over and according to you maybe the league did.
 
blazerkor said:
You're fine Nate, there's no harm in it from you. You're level headed for the most part, probably more often than I am on here. I'm just complaining about the endless barrage of conspiracies. Obviously you're not a flat earther or an election denier or even if you are you don't make anyone on here suffer through constant rambling about it. No, I was just also frustrated with the results of this lottery and am constantly frustrated with the conspiracy culture that's taken hold on our society these days.

If you're not calling anyone naive for not buying the idea that you've been talking about then it was me who was out of line and not you. You do your thing. GO BLAZERS!!! Even on a day when according to me bad luck fucked us over and according to you maybe the league did.
Click to expand...

We certainly got fucked over one way or the other. We can agree on that.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
No evolution required. The top half media markets have completely dominated the small markets in terms of championships. I posted the data 2 or 3 years ago. Small markets are fairing much better under the current "market balance" commish, which is nice.
Click to expand...
Really it's just the Lakers. Take them out and it's not that skewed, especially in recent decades. Yeah Bulls had the Jordan run, Warriors Curry, but outside that those franchise haven't done much. Spurs won a bunch with Duncan.

Celtics have a ton of titles but mostly when the league was like 8 teams and other teams literally sold them players so that has nothing to do with today's NBA. Since the 80s they only have the Garnett title and last year's.

Yeah I was furious with the Lakers Luka trade. But it just seems that Nico had some Anthony Davis fetish and the new owner didn't like Luka.

Lakers really aren't setup that well to contend anyways. They have few picks, and not really any players of value besides Luka/Reaves. Doubt they get HCA. Their ownership is actually not very wealthy and they might never want to pay the 2nd apron.

I agree the league has much more parity the last decade. Plenty of things I don't like with the NBA but some lottery conspiracy in today's league is laughable.
 
Chris Craig said:
We certainly got fucked over one way or the other. We can agree on that.
Click to expand...
Mostly that was the Blazers own doing prioritizing wins that put us down to pick 11 vs a team like the Jazz guaranteed a top5 pick.

Hell even winning 1 less game would have put us up at the Rockets spot.

I don't think dropping from 10 to 11 meets the definition of being "fucked over"
 
I'll be honest, Nico didn't deserve Flagg but those Dallas fans probably did. Could you imagine having to watch our team get a guy as fucking gifted as Luka and then having our GM give him away for AD (who surprise surprise has a season ending injury) and one future FRP.

I always only want nice things for us and we rarely get them but when I take a step back, at least he went to the Mavs and their abused fans instead of the seemingly always lucky Spurs... who still seem like they're going to get the second best guy in this draft... SMH.
 
LayneStaley said:
Yeah but if we include 11 I think we can get someone to bite.
Click to expand...
But what's the point of losing 11 just to get out of Grants deal?

While I hate having Grant and his contract I don't see us getting close to #11 value if it was off our cap. We might just spend it on a huge deal for Ant or Ayton.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
Having talented evaluators is even more important. They aren't mutually exclusive.
Click to expand...

It just seems like drafts keep getting weaker. Outside the top few picks, most players in the past few drafts have been crap.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
But what's the point of losing 11 just to get out of Grants deal?

While I hate having Grant and his contract I don't see us getting close to #11 value if it was off our cap. We might just spend it on a huge deal for Ant or Ayton.
Click to expand...

Because we need the cap space to keep building our team. We have to pay some of these younger players and will have to pay more of them to keep them soon. Can't do that with giant useless contracts like Grants hanging around.
 
Chris Craig said:
Just saying the teams with the 11th and 8th best odds got the top two picks. Why tank? We need to develop players and get better. That's the only chance we have. Losing games on purpose isn't going to get us anywhere.
Click to expand...
You "tank" because you have better odds to get better players the higher you pick.

You don't "tank" to get the first pick. As I have been saying all along. Though you get a higher chance for that as well.

And you get the old guys that you know you aren't going to build with out of the way so the young guys you currently have can get the game reps you need them getting.

*Edit* As opposed to reps standing in the corner with an old guy dominating the ball while trying to prove he still has potential.
 
Last edited:
Phatguysrule said:
You "tank" because you have better odds to get a better players the higher you pick.

You don't "tank" to get the first pick. As I have been saying all along. Though you get a higher chance for that as well.

And you get the old guys that you know you aren't going to build with out of the way so the young guys you currently have can get the game reps you need them getting.
Click to expand...

Fair enough

I agree we need to get rid of some of these veterans now.
 
Chris Craig said:
Because we need the cap space to keep building our team. We have to pay some of these younger players and will have to pay more of them to keep them soon. Can't do that with giant useless contracts like Grants hanging around.
Click to expand...

You don't give up young talent for something theoretical. There is no immediate need for cap space which it wouldn't even create by moving him. The optics alone is why it won't happen. I also don't think it would take a lottery pick to move Grant. I also think he'd be fine coming off the bench and provide scoring.
 
blazerkor said:
I'll be honest, Nico didn't deserve Flagg but those Dallas fans probably did. Could you imagine having to watch our team get a guy as fucking gifted as Luka and then having our GM give him away for AD (who surprise surprise has a season ending injury) and one future FRP.

I always only want nice things for us and we rarely get them but when I take a step back, at least he went to the Mavs and their abused fans instead of the seemingly always lucky Spurs... who still seem like they're going to get the second best guy in this draft... SMH.
Click to expand...
Odd dynamic to Flagg or any Mavs star... Would you want to join that franchise? You've seen how they treat a superstar that carries a team to the finals. I could see stars prefer not to be on a team with that owner or Nico as the GM.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
Which would be evidence that having a higher floor of where your pick could be is important because you can never rely fully on chance.
Click to expand...

Unless you are the Mavericks or Spurs
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Odd dynamic to Flagg or any Mavs star... Would you want to join that franchise? You've seen how they treat a superstar that carries a team to the finals. I could see stars prefer not to be on a team with that owner or Nico as the GM.
Click to expand...

Flagg did look kind of worried
 
AmirIcon said:
You don't give up young talent for something theoretical. There is no immediate need for cap space which it wouldn't even create by moving him. The optics alone is why it won't happen. I also don't think it would take a lottery pick to move Grant. I also think he'd be fine coming off the bench and provide scoring.
Click to expand...

Blazers have been doing that for years. It's not theoretical to move away from Grant. We don't need it want his contract here.

I don't agree Grant will be happy to come off the bench.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Odd dynamic to Flagg or any Mavs star... Would you want to join that franchise? You've seen how they treat a superstar that carries a team to the finals. I could see stars prefer not to be on a team with that owner or Nico as the GM.
Click to expand...

Nico is such a scapegoat. That deal doesn't happen without ownership pushing for it. This should be obvious by now.
 
Chris Craig said:
Because we need the cap space to keep building our team. We have to pay some of these younger players and will have to pay more of them to keep them soon. Can't do that with giant useless contracts like Grants hanging around.
Click to expand...
Ant, Ayton, Thybulle and Timelord contracts all expire this summer. Deni and Camara are on cheap deals. Cap is going up a lot too. As long as we don't hand out more stupid contracts we can eat the Grant deal.

I mean if we can sign multiple stars with Grant space of course I'd explore that. I just doubt that's the case. Much better to keep #11 and try to get a good player. They will be on a cheap contract longer than Grants deal.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Ant, Ayton, Thybulle and Timelord contracts all expire this summer. Deni and Camara are on cheap deals. Cap is going up a lot too. As long as we don't hand out more stupid contracts we can eat the Grant deal.

I mean if we can sign multiple stars with Grant space of course I'd explore that. I just doubt that's the case. Much better to keep #11 and try to get a good player. They will be on a cheap contract longer than Grants deal.
Click to expand...

Still gotta get rid of someone if we make the pick. Guess that means Duop or Kris.
 
Chris Craig said:
Unless you are the Mavericks or Spurs
Click to expand...
Yeah there's always a couple teams that jump.

Odds are any one team will be part of the group of a dozen teams that don't jump. 12 of the 14 teams in the lottery slotted right about where they were expected to.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Yeah there's always a couple teams that jump.

Odds are any one team will be part of the group of a dozen teams that don't jump. 12 of the 14 teams in the lottery slotted right about where they were expected to.
Click to expand...

Why do the odds always seem to be stacked against us?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 2 (members: 0, guests: 2)

Featured content

Back
Top