OT Adam Silver Warns Teams About Tanking, Says NBA Will Closely Monitor Their Play (5 Viewers)

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IMO the only way to prevent teams from gaming the system is to give every team the same odds in a lottery that randomly sets the draft order for all teams regardless of record.
 
That way every team will try to win to make their fans happy. It might even increase revenue by getting more butts in seats.
 
Tanking is easy solve if you put fans first.

If teams want to tank, which honestly, that should be their right to do, then they have to refund their fans and season ticket holders 50% of the ticket cost.

Yes, there should be a penalty/fine if teams intentionally put out a poor product. But it should be the fans, not the league, who benefit from any financial penalty.
 
My tanking solution is still the best. Salary incentive for staying out of bottom 3. And bottom 3 get last 3 picks of first round. This is only proposal that gives incentive to players, coaches, and GMs to win. A Pacers/Wizards game in April could get great ratings. Both teams would want to win.
 
KingSpeed said:
My tanking solution is still the best. Salary incentive for staying out of bottom 3. And bottom 3 get last 3 picks of first round. This is only proposal that gives incentive to players, coaches, and GMs to win. A Pacers/Wizards game in April could get great ratings. Both teams would want to win.
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Sorry man, I think your idea is terrible. If teams stink they could stink forever. Punishing the least talented teams is like charging the highest tax rate to a homeless person.

It also could incentivize teams to try to coerce players to play hurt so they don't end up in the bottom three.
 
blazerfan11 said:
That's really stupid if that's what he said.

All he had to say was that the lottery would determine all 14 spots and all 14 teams would have the same odds.
That would definitely get rid of tanking.
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Teams on the fringe would still game the system. Give all the teams the same exact odds for draft position in the first round. There would be zero incentive to throw games and competitive athletes and coaches would play to win every game. The second round would be based on record, worst first, best last.
 
BBert said:
Teams on the fringe would still game the system. Give all the teams the same exact odds for draft position in the first round. There would be zero incentive to throw games and competitive athletes and coaches would play to win every game. The second round would be based on record, worst first, best last.
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Teams on the fringe wouldn't be tanking the way we think of tanking, where a team aims for 18 wins. That is the issue.

Nobody would care about a team losing a game to miss the playoffs. That same thing could happen with a team trying to control who their opponent is in the playoffs.
 
I feel like this whole discourse about tanking ignores the increased amount of injuries, stars missing games to load management and thus devaluing all sorts of regular season games.

If the league cut 10-20 games from the schedule (which they’re very unlikely to do for obvious reasons) it would have a ton of positive knock on effects to the basketball product—and even soften the tanking that’s happening earlier than ever.
 
I can't believe there is talk over taking away the lottery when they could simply make it a true lottery with equal odds across the board. Simple, problem solved.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Tanking is easy solve if you put fans first.

If teams want to tank, which honestly, that should be their right to do, then they have to refund their fans and season ticket holders 50% of the ticket cost.

Yes, there should be a penalty/fine if teams intentionally put out a poor product. But it should be the fans, not the league, who benefit from any financial penalty.
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Read this board, even in wins, this place is melting down about a poor product in the first half of close games. People would be demanding half refunds for poor starts. What if the team plays like shit when I'm at the game? Can I get a refund because I paid to see them win? What if we win, but I bought a ticket to see the opponent, and THEIR star was out? Blazers still have to refund me?
It sucks, because diehard fans know teams are tanking moreso than casual fans who are attending more games randomly, but starting to refund tickets seems like a slippery slope, and I generally despise the use of slippery slope in discussions.
 
JfizzleBlazer said:
Sorry man, I think your idea is terrible. If teams stink they could stink forever. Punishing the least talented teams is like charging the highest tax rate to a homeless person.

It also could incentivize teams to try to coerce players to play hurt so they don't end up in the bottom three.
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My plan still rewards bad teams. Just not the worst. You could make it 18, 19, 20 if you want but as long as you reward the worst teams, tanking will always be exist.
 
@wizenheimer got me to change my mind. I now think that leveling the lotto odds and maybe even pushing the lotto spots to the top 5 would be the best way to get rid of tanking except for maybe the last few games of the season which are always going to be weird because teams are sitting players for playoff position or have their spot locked up and are getting their guys some rest.

If equal odds at the top 4 or 5 picks gets some teams to tank the play-in so be it and if the league wants to fix that then they might take the play-in teams out of the lotto.

I guess we'll see but that reporting on Silver and getting rid of the draft is really thin. Read the MSN article. There is no quote that is in context. I tend to think the MSN reporter asked if getting rid of the draft was on the table and probably got Silver to say some thing like they are serious about fixing tanking and everything is on the table.
 
It has become and issue for Vegas so they are putting pressure on Silver to regulate it. It's actually insane that this is what ia driving the decision making now. Get that ish out and away from sport.
 
BigGameDamian said:
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If this is real David Aldridge is a moron. These aren't separate corporations. He's ignoring the cap, lux tax and revenue sharing. If you follow his logic the league becomes something entirely different than it is today, far less competitive and therefore less exciting and a worse product.
 
I think what Silver has said lately is being misinterpreted. The newest article on ESPN and for that matter all articles besides the MSN one say nothing about scrapping the draft as one of the solutions. Fining teams and taking picks is all that's being discussed right now.

I think the thing that sets Silver off is in game tanking and it's what he's acted against every time. I've never seen a team get fined for holding players out of games for mysterious late season injuries. It's when a team is winning and holds their best players out for the second half or fourth quarter that is both being punished and in my opinion something that just can't happen in the league.

If players were made available at the beginning of a game and aren't injured, a team should be doing everything they can to win with those players.
 
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