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One problem that has been associated with vaccine failure is cold storage....some second shot doses may have deteriorated if not in a cold enough temperature....when I got my first shot they were laid out in syringes on a table...don't know how long out of cold storage but I'm sure the nurse at the VA followed protocol
 
Lol. I love how my words got completely twisted around yesterday and just completely dismissed...

typical....
 
My apology for being condescending. Just tired of people being lumped into bullshit like illmatic's video above. The fact is these "vaccines" have not been anywhere close to as rigorously tested as traditional vaccines and are only approved under emergency authorization.

the frustration towards some who continue this all or nothing, “one side only!!!” Tribalism is not only real, its very disturbing.
 
Lol. I love how my words got completely twisted around yesterday and just completely dismissed...

typical....
don't feel bad....mine were tossed aside as having zero value.....oh well ...sarcasm has a shelf life
the tribalism here is purely who likes a post or doesn't....that's where people can skirt the insult rules....don't post an insult but "like" the post that insulted. It's a buddy system. Everybody does that here
 
don't feel bad....mine were tossed aside as having zero value.....oh well ...sarcasm has a shelf life

zero value vs having your words twisted al around and then treated as though I'm an idiot is not the same...

But hey, life aint fair! :)
 
What does that even mean?
It means CDC, FDA, public health departments, Dr. Fauci and your own doctor are conspiring to give you unproven unsafe vaccine for some nefarious reason. And that while you might think vaccines have good track record after millions of doses, in reality random dude on Facebook has shown otherwise. That vaccine is dangerous but Coronavirus isn't.

Yeah. Really.
 
My apology for being condescending. Just tired of people being lumped into bullshit like illmatic's video above. The fact is these "vaccines" have not been anywhere close to as rigorously tested as traditional vaccines and are only approved under emergency authorization.
Yeah, but some of us are okay with the extra appendages we’ve grown since receiving the shot. Just sayin’........
 
Yeah, but some of us are okay with the extra appendages we’ve grown since receiving the shot. Just sayin’........
plus having another memory box in my brain erased is always a welcome thing! I've almost erased the past administration from memory completely!
 
Just booked first dose of Pfizer on Sunday!

:NOTMARIS:
That is the one I have. Pfizer being around for so long just made me feel comfortable. Plus, reports of pfizer being effective against some variants. Only had a little bit of a sore arm for a day. Good luck! My 2nd dose is next weekend.
 
Fact check: Genetic materials from mRNA vaccines do not multiply in your body forever

A video shared online in which a man discusses mRNA vaccines includes numerous false claims, including that the vaccines become part of recipients’ bodies, that they alter DNA, and that they haven’t been tested.

The video begins with a man describing how the new vaccines used to protect against COVID-19 are different from vaccines that have been released before (here Timestamp 5.18). Both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines that are available in the UK are mRNA vaccines.

The man says of the new vaccines: “Once you get this COVID-19 vaccine, and this little bit of genetic material, it becomes part of you. And those cells in your body will start multiplying and you will have parts of the genetic material of a foreign entity in your body for the rest of your life, there’s nothing that you can do about it. It now becomes part of you. You have been genetically engineered. Your DNA is now different from what it was prior to getting the vaccine.” (Timestamp 7.47)


Reuters has previously debunked claims that mRNA vaccines alter recipients’ DNA (here) While these types of vaccines do involve the injection of a small part of the virus’s genetic code to stimulate immune response in a patient without an infection (here) in contrast to the more widespread “conventional” vaccines (here) which use a whole pathogen or fragment, the mRNA from the vaccine does not alter the recipient’s DNA, is broken down shortly after vaccination and does not stay in the body (here).

The man in the video also says that when a vaccine recipient comes into contact with the full virus in the environment, the person’s immune system will overreact and a “total immune response will take place” in every area in which the virus’s genetic material has been incorporated. “You will perish in about 4 or five days with sepsis,” he says (Timestamp 8.36). The man also claims that the vaccine had not been tested on human beings yet (Timestamp 10.13). Both claims are false.

Tens of thousands of human test participants have received the Pfizer vaccine (here) and the Moderna vaccine (here ), both of which have been deemed to be safe by the UK medicine regulators (here).


VERDICT
False. Vaccines using mRNA do not permanently stay in a recipient’s body or alter DNA. The COVID-19 vaccines available in the UK have been tested on human volunteers and found to be safe.

This article was produced by the Reuters Fact Check team. Read more about our work to fact-check social media posts  here . 

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-...t-multiply-in-your-body-forever-idUSKBN29I30V
 
Moderna is two weeks after the second shot, so six weeks too. At least that's what they told me at OHSU and they gave it to me.
Read my link.
I was told at the Portland VA hospital that Moderna was three weeks after each shot.
 
I don't know about growing extra appendages (though depending on which region of the body, I might be tempted to grow some), but I'm certain of one case that a woman got pregnant after receiving her 2nd dose of the Covid vaccine. I got proof!
It's how we old farts explain "love handles"
 
My apology for being condescending. Just tired of people being lumped into bullshit like illmatic's video above. The fact is these "vaccines" have not been anywhere close to as rigorously tested as traditional vaccines and are only approved under emergency authorization.
Only the Johnson and Johnson vaccine has been rigorously tested. The other vaccines have only been tested on a hundred thousand volunteers or so.
Yeah, but some of us are okay with the extra appendages we’ve grown since receiving the shot. Just sayin’........
I like my new tail.
 
Moderna is two weeks after the second shot, so six weeks too. At least that's what they told me at OHSU and they gave it to me.
Read my link.
The Portland VA hospital told me that the moderna required three weeks after each injection.
 

I go to the heart doctor regularly here...all the people at the hospital have been vaccinated...none have died...all were trained medical professionals who believe the vaccine is safe.....scientific method...you can use your own judgement about it but the world agrees with the science and the numbers support the success rate. I think it's counter productive after 520,000 deaths to say the vaccine is dangerous...it's the fucking pandemic that's dangerous....check the results. If all five of my heart doctors are ignorant of the truth and lie to me about the safety...I'm in big trouble...somehow I don't feel that way...I'm thrilled to have the vaccine...news from my family overseas also support the success of the vaccines...it's not a fucking political tool....it's a global pandemic...denying the pandemic is a huge mistake. I sincerely hope you come to terms with that for those around you and your own well being
 
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Read my link.
The Portland VA hospital told me that the moderna required three weeks after each injection.
I got mine Monday...and my second shot is April 6th at the VA...I was told it's a matter of supply as to how quickly they can give it out..I got bumped once because they got a fresh supply..
 
I find it odd that some the same people complaining about the vaccines, the suspension of regulations in order to get them out to the public, and the speed in which they were created are also some of the same people in the Biden thread complaining that Trump isn't getting credit for the vaccines, the suspension of regulations in order to get them out to the public, and the speed in which they were created.

So the vaccines are bad, but Biden is bad for not giving credit to Trump for the good he did making the bad vaccines.
 
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Only the Johnson and Johnson vaccine has been rigorously tested. The other vaccines have only been tested on a hundred thousand volunteers or so.

I like my new tail.
I think you need to add the first responders who've been vaccinated twice and not died into those numbers....that's much more than 100k people with results...hospitals in Oregon alone would be way more than those numbers indicate
 
If you do get the vaccine PLEASE take the time to sign up and report in when asked to https://vsafe.cdc.gov/ . It's important information for the CDC to track side effects and problems with the vaccines all the way down to the batch level.
 
I find it odd that some the same people complaining about the vaccines, the suspension of regulations in order to get them out to the public, and the speed in which they were created are also some of the same people in the Biden thread complaining that Trump isn't getting credit for the vaccines, the suspension of regulations in order to get them out to the public, and the speed in which they were created.

So the vaccines are bad, but Biden is bad for not giving credit to Trump for the good he did he making the bad vaccines.

Since I’m the person you are referring to, I will respond.

I never said the vaccine was bad, I just said I don’t have to take it if I don’t want to.

In the other thread I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy. I wasn’t saying the vaccine was good or bad, or that EITHER administration needed to be lavishly praised for it. I just thought it was interesting how quickly the flop came after Inauguration Day, and that the current administration was more or less taking full credit for something they were ‘skeptical’ of before the election. It’s all politics before people.
 
Since I’m the person you are referring to, I will respond.

I never said the vaccine was bad, I just said I don’t have to take it if I don’t want to.

In the other thread I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy. I wasn’t saying the vaccine was good or bad, or that EITHER administration needed to be lavishly praised for it. I just thought it was interesting how quickly the flop came after Inauguration Day, and that the current administration was more or less taking full credit for something they were ‘skeptical’ of before the election. It’s all politics before people.
you know this is global right? american politics has nothing to do with the global medical community and the response to a pandemic....what this administration has done is not insult science on twitter and go golfing or make fun of mask wearing and instead sped up distribution and funding for first responders....it's middle of March now...not Dec last year. fishing for liberal hypocrisy is easy...just adds nothing to our need for public responsibility and concerns for public health.
 
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