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I don't think some fans in here wanna make moves just to make moves, but really what happens when CJ or Dame collapse the defense? well Turner and Aminu aren't hitting that. Harkless isn't. Crabbe will. I am just surprised with the style this team plays we only have one sf that's a shooter. Jae Crowder would be great. 40 percent from three. Great contract. I just don't understand our SF situation. The style this team plays, favors the three. Quite frankly I am tired of seeing those three players I mentioned miss wide open threes
 
JFizzleRaider said:
It definitely is a different era, but dude got the last superstar for us in trade even if it was an aging Pippen. Having Pippen join us was amazing. One of the happiest moments i have had as a blazer fan. I thought nba championship all the way.

Oden also made me feel that way.

Can't say Olshey has given me those feels during his tenure. It's been a big bag of meh.
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Honestly, Nurkic is giving me that giddy feeling. Its like we got a Sabonis type big guy, but actually have him in his prime.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
Yes. Fighting for a championship. Not purgatory. We need more talent on this team.
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I think we need guys under contract to make the leap to the next level this season and if they don't, trade deadline, tweak the roster...I know our weaker rotation players can play better....here's hoping they all do
 
MickZagger said:
Honestly, Nurkic is giving me that giddy feeling. Its like we got a Sabonis type big guy, but actually have him in his prime.
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I love how deep we are with bigs this season...it's going to be great having so many ways to play Nurk alongside Davis or Collins or Vonleh or Chief....should be an interesting season
 
riverman said:
I love how deep we are with bigs this season...it's going to be great having so many ways to play Nurk alongside Davis or Collins or Vonleh or Chief....should be an interesting season
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Did you not mention our best big on purpose ?
 
A lot of people think a prime Sabonis was among the several greatest centers ever. Saying that getting Nurkic is like getting a prime Sabonis is almost equivalent to saying we got a prime Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Just setting yourself up for steep, crushing disappointment.

Unless that's your fetish...
 
JFizzleRaider said:
I like Nurk a lot. But come on.... Sabonis in his prime he is not.
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Nurk isn't in his prime yet. He averaged 15 and 10 in his time with Portland. With a 21 PER.

This is as a 22 year old. Probably on par with what Sabonis would have done in the NBA as a 22 year old. But he never was, so hard to say.
 
Minstrel said:
A lot of people think a prime Sabonis was among the several greatest centers ever. Saying that getting Nurkic is like getting a prime Sabonis is almost equivalent to saying we got a prime Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Just setting yourself up for steep, crushing disappointment.

Unless that's your fetish...
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What were Sabonis numbers as a 22 year old?

Also, I don't get crushing disappointment from basketball. I'm not a 12 year old.
 
MickZagger said:
What were Sabonis numbers as a 22 year old?
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Over his best 20 game sample? I don't know.

Also, I don't get crushing disappointment from basketball anymore. I'm not a 12 year old.
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Well, I didn't think you were 12 years old. I generally try to avoid ascribing fetishes to 12 year olds. It's unseemly.
 
Minstrel said:
Over his best 20 game sample? I don't know.



Well, I didn't think you were 12 years old. I generally try to avoid ascribing fetishes to 12 year olds. It's unseemly.
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This puts me in a tough spot. Because I'm as big of a Sabas fan as there is . But, how much raw data do we really have to go off of with young Sabonis. A lot of it is second hand hearsay. We do know that he dominated a young David Robinson in the World Championships. A lot of what we have to go off of young Sabonis is mystery and intrigue.

I just watched Nurkic dominate Jokic. Jokic is a guy who many around the league have just claimed to be the next great Center.

I have seen enough of Nurkic to prognosticate that if he stays healthy, he will be a great center. He has instincts and hands. A smooth jump shot. Makes teammates better. The sky is the limit.

Also, save the condescending fetish bullshit for someone else.
 
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Stats between the two that game:

David Robinson: 23 points and 12 rebounds

Sabonis: 13 points 13 rebounds
 
riverman said:
I love how deep we are with bigs this season...it's going to be great having so many ways to play Nurk alongside Davis or Collins or Vonleh or Chief....should be an interesting season
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Except for Chief. Aminu just isn't a PF and he is certainly not a stretch-4 so why play him there?
 
Minstrel said:
A lot of people think a prime Sabonis was among the several greatest centers ever. Saying that getting Nurkic is like getting a prime Sabonis is almost equivalent to saying we got a prime Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Just setting yourself up for steep, crushing disappointment.

Unless that's your fetish...
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Nurkic isn't the next Kareem. Maybe he'll prove us wrong.

He is a player that fills a big hole in the lineup and looks like he's going to fill it much better than expected. He looks like he's a 2-way player, and a guy we can get some easy baskets inside from, keeping the defenses honest against our wings. Inside/outside game.

He's easily going to be at least our #3 scorer, filling that glaring hole, too.

He's the 3rd C in a row that NO got us on the cheap who has exceeded expectations. This guy isn't a career sub quality guy who's starting here for lack of someone else.
 
riverman said:
yeah...like CJ sitting on the bench for 2 years....Blazer fans in my view Bones are all over the map about players...and not really always anything in particular...there's usually a common scapegoat like Felton or Meyers or Claver or somebody to bash...we watched the last core play half a decade together...this is a new era....I see where it's headed and it looks promising..if you want a superteam of allstars this year, you'll be disappointed
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No going guy on our team has anything close to the potential CJ had.
 
riverman said:
It's kind of what you've been doing dude.......you called it passion, I called it panic attack....don't tell me Noah Vonleh and Chief are not NBA players and expect support....perspective
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You're starting to piss me off.

I say "I want Crowder because he's an upgrade and I think a lot of our role players as trash."

Then you say "What's not realistic is to think we're instantly going to win it all next season if we sign Crowder and if we don't we'll suck...I don't buy any of it"

Never said we'll suck without him, don't think we'll win it all next season. Just said he'll make us better. But you're sitting here putting words in my mouth.

And when I call you out on it you say I'm "panic attack" posting? Based on the shit you made up or because I want an upgrade and don't think some role players are good? GTFO.
 
BonesJones said:
You're starting to piss me off.
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You're starting to piss off Aminu and Vonleh........don't give yourself a free trash talk card and then not expect to get called out on it sometimes...I happen to like those guys on the roster...if you can't deal with that then that's just life dude. Ignore me if you need to....no problem.
 
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