Asik wants out - Trade for Lopez/Freeland? (1 Viewer)

[Natebishop3]

If Neil can pull off a Hickson/Leonard/scrub combo for Asik/TRob deal in addition to the Lopez deal, I'd be thrilled as hell. That would make us a 50 win team.

Hell, if we can get anything of value for Hickson, I'll be thrilled.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Hickson for Asik straight up? Would that work?

 

[magnifier661]

I don't see how we can trade hickson. We can't retain him, therefor no bird rights. Anyone else wanna fill me in?

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Hickson for Asik straight up? Would that work?

Dammit BGD.

 

[Blazinaway]

I don't see how we can trade hickson. We can't retain him, therefor no bird rights. Anyone else wanna fill me in?

some very bored folks wasting time on a Sunday afternoon dreamin about JJ for Asik - whatever

 

[Blazinaway]

Hickson for Asik straight up? Would that work?

lot of things "might" work, but in the reality most of us deal with not that one

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Just had to post this picture somewhere:

Comes from this excellent article explaining Asik's (and Lin's) weird contract.

 

[TowelBoy]

In case anyone was wondering, S&Ting Hickson was not possible even before he got scooped up by Denver.

I would be very, very intrigued if Lopez, Matthews, and Freeland could get us Asik. But I think the Rockets can get a better player for him. Perhaps Ryan Anderson.

 

[magnifier661]

In case anyone was wondering, S&Ting Hickson was not possible even before he got scooped up by Denver.

I would be very, very intrigued if Lopez, Matthews, and Freeland could get us Asik. But I think the Rockets can get a better player for him. Perhaps Ryan Anderson.

That would be a hell of a deal if we landed it; but I just don't see it.

 

[Pinwheel1]

In case anyone was wondering, S&Ting Hickson was not possible even before he got scooped up by Denver.

I would be very, very intrigued if Lopez, Matthews, and Freeland could get us Asik. But I think the Rockets can get a better player for him. Perhaps Ryan Anderson.

Didn't New Orleans say they had no interest in Asik?

 

[ebott]

There's like 10 quality centers in the NBA. I would think that if the Rockets do decide they want to trade Asik I don't think they'll have any trouble finding a team willing to trade a good player for him.

What I don't understand is why nobody is talking about doing a twin towers sort of thing. Last off-season the dream of getting Linsanity, Harden and Asik was that you'd have a super high scoring back court and a mostly defensive front court. Does Dwight's existence change the scheme that much? What's so wrong with a Lin, Harden, Parsons, Asik and Dwight lineup?

 

[shamelessblazer]

There's like 10 quality centers in the NBA. I would think that if the Rockets do decide they want to trade Asik I don't think they'll have any trouble finding a team willing to trade a good player for him.

What I don't understand is why nobody is talking about doing a twin towers sort of thing. Last off-season the dream of getting Linsanity, Harden and Asik was that you'd have a super high scoring back court and a mostly defensive front court. Does Dwight's existence change the scheme that much? What's so wrong with a Lin, Harden, Parsons, Asik and Dwight lineup?

Since neither have a jumper there aren't any driving lanes for Harden or Lin AND neither can work in the post effectively because whichever one isn't in the past is having his man leave to double the other. They can't be on the court at the same time on offense at all.

 

[shamelessblazer]

I honestly think that some teams (or at least owners) aren't sure they want to pay 10M a year to Asik (5 and 15) and give up anything quality. From Houston's vantage point Lopez for 10M for the next two years playing 15 mpg might be better than Asik for 20M playing 15mpg.

I know it sounds crazy but it sure seems like Lopez and a future first (2015) could possibly get it done.

Meyers right now should for sure if you're Houston, with his jumper you could pair him with Dwight on the floor. However, we can't absorb the contract of Asik so there's that.

 

[magnifier661]

I actually really hope Morley keeps asik. His value will drop dramatically and they will lose some games. Then we can showcase our awesome pick-ups and trade him before the all star break.

 

[TowelBoy]

There's like 10 quality centers in the NBA. I would think that if the Rockets do decide they want to trade Asik I don't think they'll have any trouble finding a team willing to trade a good player for him.

What I don't understand is why nobody is talking about doing a twin towers sort of thing. Last off-season the dream of getting Linsanity, Harden and Asik was that you'd have a super high scoring back court and a mostly defensive front court. Does Dwight's existence change the scheme that much? What's so wrong with a Lin, Harden, Parsons, Asik and Dwight lineup?

To answer your question, some people ARE talking about it. In fact, I'm pretty sure Morey himself talked about it in a radio interview in which he surprisingly and emphatically stated that "twin towers" lineups would not be in the plans. He went onto say, however, that he had no interest in trading Asik because the 10-15 minutes of stud defense Asik offers in backup minutes will be more valuable to the team than what Asik could command in a trade.

I think the most obvious way to look at this is as an attempt to keep Asik's trade value as high as possible. Asik's reported trade demands came AFTER this radio interview (the interview came when Howard to Houston was still a mere possibility).

The fact that Morey himself doesn't value a twin towers lineup, and the fact that Asik is mad, points to a trade before the deadline in my opinion. But yeah. They should be able to get quite a bit for him, putting the Rockets in an enviable position if they can convince the league they aren't accepting pennies on the dollar. A stud defensive center who himself falls short of all-star level talent might be able to get a star-level wing or shooter in return.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Houston owes us for taking taking a player off their hands to help them get Howard.

 

[Pinwheel1]

So how does the 15 million he is due in 14-15 work? So for salary cap purposes they take an average? But what about actual payment. Was it back loaded?

 

[BrianFromWA]

For actual payment, it's 15M, as in he'll get paychecks that will amount to a total of 15M in 2014-15. For cap hit for the team, it's 8.3M.

 

[Pinwheel1]

For actual payment, it's 15M, as in he'll get paychecks that will amount to a total of 15M in 2014-15. For cap hit for the team, it's 8.3M.

I would think that would bring his trade value down a little. No wonder the Lakers wanted no part of him in a sign and trade.