Assuming Scoot goes #2 but we're keeping the pick...

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Pick from everybody but Wemby and Scoot

  • Brandon Miller

    Votes: 41 85.4%

  • Amen Thompson

    Votes: 7 14.6%

  • Cam Whitmore

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Jarace Walker

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Taylor Hendricks

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Anthony Black

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Ausar Thompson

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    48
  • Poll closed .
I think Miller has the fewest question marks in comparison to Amen who has a broken shot and has played against inferior competition.

I'd be excited to get Miller.
 
B-Roy said:
Now or in history? There's been plenty historically.
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You say there's been plenty,Who? I've been watching since '77. Talking All NBA Talent, which these 2 players are talked about having the potential to be.
 
The Best guards can all shoot. Even Magic could shoot, albeit , goofy looking.
 
Went back 20 years and found Westbrook, Rondo (always seemed to hit his wide open 3's), Kidd That's not a lot.
 
tykendo said:
The Best guards can all shoot. Even Magic could shoot, albeit , goofy looking.
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Yeah, it took Magic 10 years to become a decent 3pt shooter, but he got there. Of course, the game has changed since then.
But on the flip side, he did not have the athletic ability as Amen and struggled to guard quicker smaller guards.
 
tykendo said:
You say there's been plenty,Who? I've been watching since '77. Talking All NBA Talent, which these 2 players are talked about having the potential to be.
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Westbrook
Morant
Rose
Tony Parker

Shawn Marion could be a similar comp to Amen or Ausar Thompson.

Derozan never shot threes.

Literally Ben Simmons made an all-nba team.
 
If it's Miller, I can see Dame being convinced to stay because Miller can stretch the floor and contribute some right away.

If it's Amen, that would be tough for me to see Dame buying into because he needs a lot of work. Ceiling might be really high, but he shot horribly against teenagers. What would it be like in the NBA?
 
AmirIcon said:
I think Miller has the fewest question marks in comparison to Amen who has a broken shot and has played against inferior competition.

I'd be excited to get Miller.
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Miller's not being viewed as wanted as much by other teams. That's fine. His shooting ability and size, gives him a higher floor than Scoot IMO. So if Joe could get Ayton for Nurk , Nas, and #23. And add DeMar DeRozen / pick reconciliation with Ant / future un conditional 1st , I highly doubt Dame would be disappointed with that. Ayton, Miller, Grant, DeRozen, Dame. As long as Miller isn't mediocre, that's damn good.
 
TBpup said:
If it's Miller, I can see Dame being convinced to stay because Miller can stretch the floor and contribute some right away.

If it's Amen, that would be tough for me to see Dame buying into because he needs a lot of work. Ceiling might be really high, but he shot horribly against teenagers. What would it be like in the NBA?
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I want to keep the pick and think Dame would go for it, but not if we're going to rely on that player to be a starter off the bat. Whoever we took, I think should come off the bench. We have other tools to improve the roster via Ant, Nurk, picks. Ayton can be had cheap. Ant should go out for a point of attack defender. I would love Bruce Brown in FA.
 
Tince said:
Wasn't he like a 30% 3pt shooter? That's worse than Thybulle.
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His first 10 years it was closer to 20%. But he got that set shot down at the end. But then again he had the sky hook, so he didn't need to. (Especially since they let him stay in the key for 10 seconds while backing players down)
 
tykendo said:
Miller's not being viewed as wanted as much by other teams. That's fine. His shooting ability and size, gives him a higher floor than Scoot IMO. So if Joe could get Ayton for Nurk , Nas, and #23. And add DeMar DeRozen / pick reconciliation with Ant / future un conditional 1st , I highly doubt Dame would be disappointed with that. Ayton, Miller, Grant, DeRozen, Dame. As long as Miller isn't mediocre, that's damn good.
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I would go for Ayton because of how low his value is. I wouldn't send Ant for DDR unless we got back Caruso and other incentives. I'd like a younger starting piece back for Ant like OG.
 
Always draft BPA, period. If two or more players are in the same tier you can draft for position. That is not in play here. This is a three player draft. If Portland uses the pick, it should be Miller. Figure everything else out later. We learned this lesson with Jordan.
 
AmirIcon said:
I want to keep the pick and think Dame would go for it, but not if we're going to rely on that player to be a starter off the bat. Whoever we took, I think should come off the bench. We have other tools to improve the roster via Ant, Nurk, picks. Ayton can be had cheap. Ant should go out for a point of attack defender. I would love Bruce Brown in FA.
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I disagree. If he's all that to be selected at #3. He HAS to start. It's like Banchero. start day 1. Or he's not worth the #3. That's with Scoot as well. He either is that good, or he shouldn't go top 3.
 
AmirIcon said:
I would go for Ayton because of how low his value is. I wouldn't send Ant for DDR unless we got back Caruso and other incentives. I'd like a younger starting piece back for Ant like OG.
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DeRozen would be a big contributor on both ends right away. He's not a geezer. His midrange is spectacular, and he gets to the line a ton. I trade Ant all day and twice on Sunday if could get DeMar.
 
Ausar is a better shooter than Amen and a better defender....Amen is an elite ball handler and passer.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
As I've said before, Miller just sounds SO similar to "can't miss" prospect Jabari Smith. Apparently the team that took him is SALIVATING about taking Amen. Let's break their hearts!
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They're literally nothing alike, except good shooting I guess.

Jabari can't dribble.

Jabari wasn't seen as a potential ballhandler in the PnR.

This is why it was laughable, at best, when people were obsessed with him and saying Paolo wouldn't go ahead of him.

Jabari Smith is a better defending Al Farouq Aminu; the people who thought he was the #1 pick last year make me chuckle.
 
Depends on if we're keeping Dame or not.

No Dame = Amen, because I'm swinging for the highest upside.

With Dame = Miller
 
Predator said:
They're literally nothing alike, except good shooting I guess.

Jabari can't dribble.

Jabari wasn't seen as a potential ballhandler in the PnR.

This is why it was laughable, at best, when people were obsessed with him and saying Paolo wouldn't go ahead of him.

Jabari Smith is a better defending Al Farouq Aminu; the people who thought he was the #1 pick last year make me chuckle.
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meant to say better shooting
 
tykendo said:
I disagree. If he's all that to be selected at #3. He HAS to start. It's like Banchero. start day 1. Or he's not worth the #3. That's with Scoot as well. He either is that good, or he shouldn't go top 3.
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There's no way you could start Scoot with Dame. And it's not about talent, it's about having a fail safe. Dame wants to play with veterans. You could get a Bruce Brown in FA and start him at SF until the time to switch it up comes.
 
tykendo said:
DeRozen would be a big contributor on both ends right away. He's not a geezer. His midrange is spectacular, and he gets to the line a ton. I trade Ant all day and twice on Sunday if could get DeMar.
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His defense is not great. Doesn't solve our POA problem. We're going to be treading water until we solve that issue.
 
Predator said:
They're literally nothing alike, except good shooting I guess.

Jabari can't dribble.

Jabari wasn't seen as a potential ballhandler in the PnR.

This is why it was laughable, at best, when people were obsessed with him and saying Paolo wouldn't go ahead of him.

Jabari Smith is a better defending Al Farouq Aminu; the people who thought he was the #1 pick last year make me chuckle.
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OK, but check out Miller's percentages at the rim. Scary bad for somebody 6'9".
 
AmirIcon said:
There's no way you could start Scoot with Dame. And it's not about talent, it's about having a fail safe. Dame wants to play with veterans. You could get a Bruce Brown in FA and start him at SF until the time to switch it up comes.
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If you draft Scoot you stagger his minutes with Dame and make him 6 man of the year....it's not a stretch to see that you need 3 pt guards on the roster that are able to run the offense. It's what they should have done with CJ and Ant....Scoot becomes your Manu Ginobli and someone who won't lose a lead when the starters rest. Scoot has not earned starters minutes yet but he has won rotation minutes as the 3 pick.
 
riverman said:
I watched a clip of Amen making an airborne layup from the freethrow line that was insane....from a small sample size I like Amen as a fit on this team. We've needed a stellar passer and taller guard for ages. I would assume they'll draft Miller though as he's the consensus best pick at 3.
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There are several "evaluators" that put Amen ahead of Brandon Miller. I would not be surprised if Schmitz is one of them.
The consensus was that Jabari Smith Jr. would be the first pick last year and that didn't happen.
 
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