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What's the most you would give up for Ben Simmons?


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  • For all the undeniable tension in the Pacific Northwest, neither Portland nor Lillard is ready to entertain trade possibilities … certainly not while Lillard is in Tokyo trying to focus on the Olympics.

  • The Wizards agreed to the Westbrook trade, league sources say, believing it would enhance their chances of Beal committing to a long-term extension to stay in the nation’s capital rather than hasten his exit.

  • Philadelphia continues to ask for a massive return in its attempts to construct a Simmons trade. To illustrate: There were ill-founded suggestions circulating earlier this week that the 76ers were warming to the idea of a potential deal with Portland in which CJ McCollum landed in Philadelphia as the prime acquisition from the Blazers. It was made clear, when I checked it out, that Lillard remains the Trail Blazer coveted by Sixers president of basketball operations Daryl Morey. The Sixers know they have to get this right and keep insisting that they are determined not to rush into anything.
 
I think we need to look elsewhere. Morey keeps dreaming of Dame. If we can find an upgrade from a different team, Dame will not be on the market and Morey will be left with egg on his face and an unhappy Simmons.

The idea that Daryl is banking on Dame asking for a trade as his whole summer plan is hilarious-- i wonder if he contributed to the media leaks the past month.
 
I think we need to look elsewhere. Morey keeps dreaming of Dame. If we can find an upgrade from a different team, Dame will not be on the market and Morey will be left with egg on his face and an unhappy Simmons.

The idea that Daryl is banking on Dame asking for a trade as his whole summer plan is hilarious-- i wonder if he contributed to the media leaks the past month.
I actually think Simmons would be happy, Philly Fan won't be. Simmons seems to have that Legend in his own mind thing going. I read he's hitting jumpers, so maybe the wake up call has kicked in.
 
I actually think Simmons would be happy, Philly Fan won't be. Simmons seems to have that Legend in his own mind thing going. I read he's hitting jumpers, so maybe the wake up call has kicked in.
Woj said yesterday that Simmons and his agency are on board in wanting a change of scenery.
 
I think we need to look elsewhere. Morey keeps dreaming of Dame. If we can find an upgrade from a different team, Dame will not be on the market and Morey will be left with egg on his face and an unhappy Simmons.

The idea that Daryl is banking on Dame asking for a trade as his whole summer plan is hilarious-- i wonder if he contributed to the media leaks the past month.

Need to leak a deal to Woj like the Lakers did with Buddy Hield. Then wait for Morey's phone call.
 
I actually think Simmons would be happy, Philly Fan won't be. Simmons seems to have that Legend in his own mind thing going. I read he's hitting jumpers, so maybe the wake up call has kicked in.

so is Steven Adams lol.
All nba players can hit jumpers in an empty gym. Don’t get me wrong I’m all for Simmons but I wouldn’t expect a big jump in the shooting category
 
On some level, it does make sense for Morey to at least wait a week to see how Portland and Washington's rosters shape out after most of the free agents are off the market. That will be a good gauge of whether or not Dame or Beal may be closer or farther to a trade request. Then start looking at realistic deals then.

But if I'm the Blazers, I wouldn't worry about that. Simmons is not my 1st priority anyways.
 
Oh man, did not catch Dame's comment here.


I'm not good at reading twitter, or instagram....mostly seems cryptic to me

but considering what has transpired lately, I'd wonder if Dame thinks the 'demand' was ridiculous or if the report was so off base it was ridiculous. A Henry Abbott hangover
 
I personally wouldn't want simmons here. He is a head case and I think that's something we surly don't want a part of. His talent is unquestionable and paring with Daminan seems like a good fit but him flat out refusing even layups in the playoffs really worries me.
 
I'm not good at reading twitter, or instagram....mostly seems cryptic to me

but considering what has transpired lately, I'd wonder if Dame thinks the 'demand' was ridiculous or if the report was so off base it was ridiculous. A Henry Abbott hangover
i believe it's Dame laughing at the kind of value Morey is seeking for Simmons.
 
Morey after the draft:



How close did you get to trading Ben?
I'm gonna focus on the draft tonight. We're back in the office tomorrow working on the roster.
 
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i believe it's Dame laughing at the kind of value Morey is seeking for Simmons.

most likely

Morey is a fun punching bag, but he's smart enough to know that demand was laughing-stock ridiculous. He may have just been hoping that even a ridiculous demand would budge the real value of Simmons a little higher. I don't think it will work. If Morey wanted the value to be higher he should have put a muzzle on Doc Rivers...and Embiid
 
I personally wouldn't want simmons here. He is a head case and I think that's something we surly don't want a part of. His talent is unquestionable and paring with Daminan seems like a good fit but him flat out refusing even layups in the playoffs really worries me.

At this stage we have to throw caution to the wind roll the dice and go all in for Dame. The best way IMO is surrounding him with elite defenders and length.
 
Morey after the draft:



How close did you get to trading Ben?
I'm gonna focus on the draft tonight. We're back in the office tomorrow working on the roster.

I'm not saying that I wish we had Daryl Morey as our GM... I'm also not saying I wouldn't. What I will say is that the way he addressed the questions made me feel like he's a real person and fuck I can't stand Olshey... that is all.
 
Lowe on Simmons trade on his pod:

I don't think Philly is even close. I think the reports that they asked for a bunch from GS and SA are broadly accurate. I don't buy the Toronto thing. What's interesting is that none of those deals are getting back any all star level player. It strikes me that they're more flexible in what they want in return now in Embiid's prime. Perhaps they want to get assets to use a deal down the road for a star.

Marks: With Portland, it might take CJ + multiple firsts and/or pick swaps to get Ben. Teams don't view Simmons as a guy like Harden, etc so they won't get the kind of return they're asking for now. I think Simmons will be in Philly at training camp, and they're gonna try to just look for Lowry in S&T
 
In defense of Morey he’s asking to high of price but Simons is easily the player on the market with superstar potential. Is he asking to much yes but he’s going to get a good player and at least two 1st. We are going to have to take risk, at the very least he’s all star who makes players around him better.
 
Does Morey have reason to believe we would even be interested in Simmons if Dame asked out? Personally I would go full rebuild, but who knows what Neil and the ownership group thinks.
 
Does Morey have reason to believe we would even be interested in Simmons if Dame asked out? Personally I would go full rebuild, but who knows what Neil and the ownership group thinks.
i certainly wouldn't. if dame wants out, I want nothing to do with Ben and his contract. while he seems like a good guy to rebuild around in theory, it's hardly so when he's owed so much $.
 
i certainly wouldn't. if dame wants out, I want nothing to do with Ben and his contract. while he seems like a good guy to rebuild around in theory, it's hardly so when he's owed so much $.
Yeah thats the thing I'm scratching my head on. I wouldn't want Simmons if Dame was out, I'd go look elsewhere for a better pick package. So I'm not sure what Morey is holding out for. The Sixers are not going to be the only suitor in that scenario.
 
Does Morey have reason to believe we would even be interested in Simmons if Dame asked out? Personally I would go full rebuild, but who knows what Neil and the ownership group thinks.
At 25 and locked into a four year deal, Ben Simmons is a pretty great piece to start a full rebuild around, Shake and Thybulle are pretty solid too. So they would have one of the best packages of players to offer.
 
At 25 and locked into a four year deal, Ben Simmons is a pretty great piece to start a full rebuild around, Shake and Thybulle are pretty solid too. So they would have one of the best packages of players to offer.

I'd rather get picks from New York or something and tank instead of hopelessly making the 8th seed with Simmons on the roster.
 
I'd rather get picks from New York or something and tank instead of hopelessly making the 8th seed with Simmons on the roster.
You'd rather have future picks from the Knicks with Dame added to them and from Dallas... so basically a bunch of glorified second rounders, than proven young talent? You can get the Knicks picks and Toppin with CJ anyway. You can get more picks with RoCo and Nurk and probably more young players. If a team full of talented players 25 and under makes the playoffs, that's not being hopelessly stuck if you have any kind of coaching staff. Those players will get better. A team that young that makes the playoffs is a future contender.

You realize teams do have to have players and have to hit the cap floor. So why wouldn't we use up a third of that cap floor and a roster spot on a guy with the kind of upside that Simmons has? The best package you could get from a team that we would actually send Dame to/Dame would actually be cool with going to would be what Philly can give up.
 
You'd rather have future picks from the Knicks with Dame added to them and from Dallas... so basically a bunch of glorified second rounders, than proven young talent? You can get the Knicks picks and Toppin with CJ anyway. You can get more picks with RoCo and Nurk and probably more young players. If a team full of talented players 25 and under makes the playoffs, that's not being hopelessly stuck if you have any kind of coaching staff. Those players will get better. A team that young that makes the playoffs is a future contender.

You realize teams do have to have players and have to hit the cap floor. So why wouldn't we use up a third of that cap floor and a roster spot on a guy with the kind of upside that Simmons has? The best package you could get from a team that we would actually send Dame to/Dame would actually be cool with going to would be what Philly can give up.

I just told you what I would do. I don't agree with your strategy or your evaluation of Simmons, so yeah. But none of this matters since it's neither one of us making the decision.
 

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