Trade Blazers trade Simons for Holiday

[Strenuus]

Oh boy. If we traded Sharpe in a package for Beal.......

There would be a LOT of people joining me in the not watching the team until they prove something camp, thats for sure.

 

[BIG Q]

If we trade Sharpe for Beal then we are basically fucking stupid.

Probably already are!

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Not to be a whiny asshole but his thread was titled, "Ant Traded" I think. The other thread had this title... I doubt anyone is really bent out of shape about it though, just people complaining a little.

I merged the two threads, HCP's thread was first but I used the other thread's title.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Oh we'll definitely have to give up some picks

Then let him stay in NY. He's a difficult player to build a roster around and on a massive supermax. Id give them whatever Ayton Grant Timelord Thybulle type vets they want.

NY traded 5 FRP for Bridges.... I think they want players not picks.

Maybe Ayton for that Lakers package then all of that plus whatever from us to NY.

 

[illmatic99]

why the fuck did we want that holiday contract...

and we paid picks to get it?

 

[blazerkor]

Oh boy. If we traded Sharpe in a package for Beal.......

I'm here for the Cronin critiquing but let's not get carried away. That would be absolutely nuts on a few different levels. Maybe the first being adding Shaedon to Booker and Green wouldn't really sit right.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I like the deal. Wheels are in motion, things are happening.

 

[Driew]

Doing this trade the day before the draft makes me think we're trading the 11th pick for a kat type player

Edit: couple days before the draft

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Free Scoot by having a player on a 104million contract start in front of him?

I'm not convinced he's starting. We just turned the worst defensive player in the league into one of the better ones. Seems like further commitment to defense but also having the flexibility to yield more assets for him like the first time around with Jrue.

 

[illmatic99]

I'm not convinced he's starting. We just turned the worst defensive player in the league into one of the better ones. Seems like further commitment to defense but also having the flexibility to yield more assets for him like the first time around with Jrue.

jrue is cooked

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

It makes no sense cap-wise, but they did get better for next year because they now have a backup PG. (regardless if it's Scoot or Jrue)
Jrue, Shae, Grant, Deni, and Ayton. With Camara, Scoot, Clingan, Thybulle, and Coward off the bench. Not bad

Camara off the bench?! HELL NO. He needs to start and play big minutes for us to win

 

[THE HCP]

No way Jrue is coming off the bench behind Scoot.

I mean Jrue regardless of age, is the epitome of a Billups PG!

 

[illmatic99]

this team is obsessed with expensive ex-celtic mentors apparently.

brogdan first, now holiday

 

[BIG Q]

I don't think they are trading Scoot.

What if he asks out? I would. Not gonna develop playing behind Jrue after playing behind Ant. No crunch time, game ending burn. No leverage to get a big payday. First train out.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

jrue is cooked

Ya'll gotta pick a position. Either he's cooked and he can't start in front of Scoot. Or he's not cooked and he's going to start in front of Scoot.

 

[THE HCP]

No thanks.

Hate away! That dude has won us some games. Plain and simple!

 

[BIG Q]

I mean Jrue regardless of age, is the epitome of a Billups PG!

Yes, Free Scoot! He is an after thought now.

 

[e_blazer]

This seems so far out of left field that it makes me wonder if a deal to sell the Blazers has been agreed to and the new people are trying to make a big splash. Holiday as step 1.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

I like the deal. Wheels are in motion, things are happening.

 

[Pinwheel1]

So instead of no trades will be made because Jody is selling the teams, maybe it will be let's go out swinging, and not worry about the cap in two years.

 

[illmatic99]

Ya'll gotta pick a position. Either he's cooked and he can't start in front of Scoot. Or he's not cooked and he's going to start in front of Scoot.

you do realize billups started a cooked jerami grant ahead of deni avdija to start the year?

 

[blazerkor]

why the fuck did we want that holiday contract...

and we paid picks to get it?

In a vacuum, if I was trying to win the way Chauncey has been saying he wants to win since day one, Ant and two measly second round picks for Jrue Holiday makes sense. However, that move did not happen in a vacuum. Jrue is coming off of his worst season, he has a lot of money on the books and we all thought we were trying to build a team whose championship window would be opening when Jrue is 38 or 39.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

The deals aren’t done. Take some pills and relax. The same kind of shit was bitched about when POR got Deni and Tou. Nobody even knew who Tou was.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Camara off the bench?! HELL NO. He needs to start and play big minutes for us to win

Tou will get his minutes regardless of whether he starts or not.

 

[LayneStaley]

I didn’t watch any Celtics games, how bad did Jrue fall off?

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Wow! Great work! You were all over this.

Why can't I read this post??????

 

[blazerkor]

I like the deal. Wheels are in motion, things are happening.

Yeah, if we're trying to win now, the deal isn't bad but it does need another deal at least to make it make sense. We should have some patience, I guess.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

The Deni trade was surprising and solid. I have no problem being optimistic on this one.

 

[THE HCP]

It makes no sense cap-wise, but they did get better for next year because they now have a backup PG. (regardless if it's Scoot or Jrue)
Jrue, Shae, Grant, Deni, and Ayton. With Camara, Scoot, Clingan, Thybulle, and Coward off the bench. Not bad

I have a feeling (and have heard nothing) that the pick and a player or two are headed out. Just a guess…

 

[Ripcity4life77]

How is Jrue cooked ( he's not ) .. I think he still has another season maybe 2 of being solid but I do agree the window to get off him again is prolly a little over a year ( next offseason ) and pray he does not do a Grant nosedive. However he is not cooked and I am sorry but people who believe this are only saying it cause they are not a fan of the trade and are using this weak ass reasoning to justify there opinion. Now this might end up being a bad trade but more then likely it's a bad trade cause Cronin could not do anything else to shape the roster to make this move make sense OR flip him for something else.

 

[LayneStaley]

Can some of the advanced stat guys show me how bad Jrue fell off?