Trade Blazers trade Simons for Holiday

[Rastapopoulos]

Last night in perusing Twitter (I know, it can be a cesspool) about Simons, Celtics fans were laughing at Joe and pumping Steven's up as masterclass.

Let's revisit when they've seen Ant "playing defense"

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Ugh this is my point
His value is giving a team cap relief by taking on that teams longer contract while hopefully getting some draft assets back. Even second rounders.

While great in theory to get that value for Ayton - Cronin has never done that type of trade. Blazers acquire vets in trades they think can play.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Let's revisit when they've seen Ant "playing defense"

Boston fans are brutal. I think he will leave as an FA.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Let's revisit when they've seen Ant "playing defense"

I mean, they got a player better offensively thats a decade younger that can be an expiring if they want. They save 40 million next year in tax too. And they got 2 2nds.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

lol! Its stunning posters still believe this nonsense. That was internet pretend time and never the case. Grant and Dame duped management into offering that awful deal in hopes it would bring Lillard back into the Blazer fold. Once signed, Grant was all ours and no one was going to be offering a single 2nd rounder for him.

STOMP

Blazers weren't duped of anything - they agreed to the Grant deal eyes wide open and knew Dame was not coming back with the #3 pick used on his replacement. Ramona Shelburne reported at the time both the Blazers and Grant were totally aware of the future Dame situation.

Grant did play well that first season of his comtract. Many national reporters such as Nate Duncan were surprised the Blazers didn't cash him out in a trade as he had value at that time.

 

[Strenuus]

Yall, this is a celebratory day! Simons is no longer on the team. We are better now!

What a great day! Having a player who offered nothing of substantion off the team is worth celebrating!

Cheers!

 

[Pinwheel1]

Blazers weren't duped of anything - they agreed to the Grant deal eyes wide open and knew Dame was not coming back with the #3 pick used on his replacement. Ramona Shelburne reported at the time both the Blazers and Grant were totally aware of the future Dame situation.

Yeah, I agree. IMO it was all about honoring their verbal agreement with his agent.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Some big time Drama Queen Arm-Chair-GMs in here.

WTF don’t you just wait and see what else we do before tomorrow prior to jumping off of a building

This

 

[Mediocre Man]

Most likely Camara with Grant and Deni at forward. So we can have year 4 of Sharpe as a backup.

If somehow one of those guys is out it'll be between Scoot and Sharpe to start. If Scoot starts, Jrue moves to SG and Sharpe still stays on the bench.

The Conductor would start Deni at 2

 

[blazedanugz]

Sure you can start Grant over Toumani or Deni. Grant has started every game he's played as a Blazer and is entitled to that role regardless of his performance. Deni played off the bench some of the season. Id guess it's most likely Sharpe is the one benched though.

The salaries are fine for this season. Now if they give Ayton a fat extension yes we'll have a big problem.

would you start Grant over Shaedon Deni or toumani?
I wouldn’t.

Starting lineup of
Jrue/scoot
Toumani
Deni
Grant
Ayton/clingan

That is a horrific offensive team
We may be amazing on D but if it’s not first to zero, it’s team with the highest score

 

[blazerkor]

Yall, this is a celebratory day! Simons is no longer on the team. We are better now!

What a great day! Having a player who offered nothing of substantion off the team is worth celebrating!

Cheers!

Substantion is not a word... but if you were looking for something substantive from Ant look no further.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EIcjPRgewaU

Yes I have already posted that link in this thread and I'll probably post it again... enjoy.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

would you start Grant over Shaedon Deni or toumani?
I wouldn’t.

Starting lineup of
Jrue/scoot
Toumani
Deni
Grant
Ayton/clingan

That is a horrific offensive team
We may be amazing on D but if it’s not first to zero, it’s team with the highest score

What I would do and what the Blazers do are two different things

This is Grant and Ayton team - they call the shots and start 100% of the games.

 

[blazerkor]

What I would do and what the Blazers do are two different things

This is Grant and Ayton team - they call the shots and start 100% of the games.

That makes me sick to my stomach but it could be true. I'll wait until training camp to accept it as our new reality.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

No way Sharpe doesn’t start this year. They will need the offense and it’s shit or get off the pot time.

starting lineup
Scoot or Jrue ( honestly would prefer Jrue come off bench run 2nd team)
Sharpe
Camara
Deni
Ayton

Bench
Jrue
Clingan
Grant
Thybulle

that’s a nice rotation and potentially really good if Scoot and Sharpe make big jumps. That said I expect more trades to come so don’t expect this to be our last trade

 

[BlazerWookee]

Shocking

Dammit, I wasn't holding my shorts!

 

[BlazerWookee]

Does Holiday make sense though?

He makes dollars. BIG dollars.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Grant has started every game he's played as a Blazer and is entitled to that role regardless of his performance.

NO!

 

[wizenheimer]

I wouldn't be shocked if the Blazers pay tax - the bill is due a year from July and there'll be different owners then.

yeah, it could be possible. IIRC there's about a 7M margin between the tax line and first apron

but if my math is right, accounting for the difference between Jrue's salary and Ant's, and adding the scale for the 11th pick, Portland is still 8-9M below the tax line with 14 players. Now that includes Reath but does not include Walker or Banton. So staying under the tax should be easy....unless there is some major deal in the works using Ayton or Grant

 

[Mediocre Man]

Dammit, I wasn't holding my shorts!

It wasn’t shocking

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Now, if we could just get Doc Rivers as our coach, it would be a beautiful tribute to Val Kilmer.

 

[andalusian]

Now, if we could just get Doc Rivers as our coach, it would be a beautiful tribute to Val Kilmer.

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Maybe it's time to bring back winner winner Travis Diener as a beautiful tribute for Thanksgiving

 

[LayneStaley]

No way Sharpe doesn’t start this year. They will need the offense and it’s shit or get off the pot time.

starting lineup
Scoot or Jrue ( honestly would prefer Jrue come off bench run 2nd team)
Sharpe
Camara
Deni
Ayton

Bench
Jrue
Clingan
Grant
Thybulle

that’s a nice rotation and potentially really good if Scoot and Sharpe make big jumps. That said I expect more trades to come so don’t expect this to be our last trade

We would have the first 30 mil bench player of all time, and we we would have 2 of them.

 

[blazedanugz]

What I would do and what the Blazers do are two different things

This is Grant and Ayton team - they call the shots and start 100% of the games.

this is Grant and Aytons team?
What??

 

[Cugel]

We cannot conclude anything until trade season closes. I agree it is a bit of a head scratcher given Jrue's age. He is a great player, declining, not cheap, but by all accounts a first rate kinda guy. I am not seeing what teams have the need for him at the moment.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I am not seeing what teams have the need for him at the moment.

Besides Bucks and Pacers?

 

[Cugel]

Besides Bucks and Pacers?

Yes the pacers are a clear choice for sure. MIL simply has nothing to offer. If Joe could get TJ and maybe Walker, Toppin and filler for Jrue it wouldn't be bad. Joe could add in other stuff to even it out but no picks. DET might want to part with the expiring of Harris???

 

[Mediocre Man]

Now, if we could just get Doc Rivers as our coach, it would be a beautiful tribute to Val Kilmer.

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One of the biggest Oscar snubs in history

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Would a lineup of
Jrue
Matisse
Toumani
Deni
Clingan
be the best defensive lineup in the NBA? Not sure where the scoring comes from, though...

 

[Cugel]

DAL needs guards too. Take Klay, Christie?

 

[RonBrewer]

We cannot conclude anything until trade season closes. I agree it is a bit of a head scratcher given Jrue's age. He is a great player, declining, not cheap, but by all accounts a first rate kinda guy. I am not seeing what teams have the need for him at the moment.

Lakers. But not much I would take from them