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Mediocre Man said:
If he is staying, which appears to be the case, then yes. My guess is tomorrow
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Blazers posted Jrue arriving to Portland on their official twitter - they aren't doing that if he was being rerouted as was the case two years ago.

I'd assume Blazers are traveling tomorrow or so to Vegas? The team plays they're first game Friday but other teams start Thursday.

If Jrue is going to Vegas I bet they might do the conference there. If not then yes probably today or tomorrow in PDX.
 
inconceivable said:
You think we're waiting to extend Tou? I think with Shaedon, we wanna see if he's him or not, so waiting til nxt summer to extend Sharpe is smart, but Camara will only get more expensive the longer we wait.
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Normally most extensions are finalized the last few weeks before the deadline in October.

It would seem the dollars would be set for Tou as he has that low $98 million limit. Who knows what player/team options or other clauses the Blazers/Camara are bargaining for.

Sharpe is very different situation as he is eligible for far more $ up to in theory $287 million supermax.
 
Lock down Tou and Deni. There is no reason to wait with those two. Give em a raise for crissakes.
 
Cugel said:
Lock down Tou and Deni. There is no reason to wait with those two. Give em a raise for crissakes.
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Deni won’t be extended until after his final season. He won’t sign. He’s already being massively underpaid and we won’t be able to give him a big contract until then.
 
Cugel said:
Lock down Tou and Deni. There is no reason to wait with those two. Give em a raise for crissakes.
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can't do Avdija unless Blazer have major cap-space....and it sure doesn't look like the Blazers will have major cap-space before his contract expires. At least not if you assume Camara and Sharpe get extensions

well, sure, the Blazers could offer Avdija an extension but there's almost no chance he agrees to an extension based upon his tiny salaries
 
Natebishop3 said:
Deni won’t be extended until after his final season. He won’t sign. He’s already being massively underpaid and we won’t be able to give him a big contract until then.
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yep...that's the big downer to his budget contract. It even declines every year so the math gets worse each year. Portland will be able to pay him the most money; maybe not in base salary, but in bigger step raises....and an extra year IIRC. But if he wants to leave for a team with the cap-space, there will be nothing Portland can do
 
inconceivable said:
Calling it now. Ant 2026 MIP
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I think he'll definitely be a different player on the Celtics, as he won't have the freedom of being the longest tenured player or the best player, to get out of playing defense, etc.

I hope it works out for him (which is unusual, since I normally don't give two shits about former Blazers once they're gone).
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Normally most extensions are finalized the last few weeks before the deadline in October.

It would seem the dollars would be set for Tou as he has that low $98 million limit. Who knows what player/team options or other clauses the Blazers/Camara are bargaining for.

Sharpe is very different situation as he is eligible for far more $ up to in theory $287 million supermax.
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that's a pretty wild theory: Sharpe being all NBA next season. Of course, he could just skip over that hurdle and become the MVP
 
LayneStaley said:
I’ve changed my mind on Holiday. Great guy and player, he’s definitely someone I want our young guards looking to for advice. Just hope he’s healthy.
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Usually that’s all it takes in Portland. A video of the new guy in town with family. Automatically makes people love the guys
 
GoZers said:
Usually that’s all it takes in Portland. A video of the new guy in town with family. Automatically makes people love the guys
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The video isn’t what changed my mind. It was taking a look back at his career, the guy does all the things a winning team needs. He’s also been a drama free professional his entire career. For the record I wasn’t anti Jrue either, just on the fence if he made sense.
 
julius said:
I think he'll definitely be a different player on the Celtics, as he won't have the freedom of being the longest tenured player or the best player, to get out of playing defense, etc.

I hope it works out for him (which is unusual, since I normally don't give two shits about former Blazers once they're gone).
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I edited my prediction from MIP to All Star. In the East, with Tatum out, it's possible
 
inconceivable said:
I edited my prediction from MIP to All Star. In the East, with Tatum out, it's possible
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is this the "CJ would be an all-star on another team or in the East" thing again?

Donovan Mitchell
Darius Garland
Jalen Brunson
Haliburton (injured)
Cade Cunningham
Desmond Bane
Trae Young
Dyson Daniels
Josh Giddey
Tyler Herro
Cam Thomas
Tyrese Maxey
Lamelo Ball

Derrick White
Jaden Ivey
RJ Barrett
Quentin Grimes

all-star selections are 2+2 guards and 3+3 front-court + 2 at large. So say there will be 5 guards. Simons isn't likely to beat out 12 of those guards. Mitchell, Cunningham, Brunson, Young, Maxey are probably locks anyway. Simons would have to have the best season of his career and do so as the #1 option. He'd need a 30% usage rate. Boston has too many good perimeter players for that to happen.
 
wizenheimer said:
is this the "CJ would be an all-star on another team or in the East" thing again?

Donovan Mitchell
Darius Garland
Jalen Brunson
Haliburton (injured)
Cade Cunningham
Desmond Bane
Trae Young
Dyson Daniels
Josh Giddey
Tyler Herro
Cam Thomas
Tyrese Maxey
Lamelo Ball

Derrick White
Jaden Ivey
RJ Barrett
Quentin Grimes

all-star selections are 2+2 guards and 3+3 front-court + 2 at large. So say there will be 5 guards. Simons isn't likely to beat out 12 of those guards. Mitchell, Cunningham, Brunson, Young, Maxey are probably locks anyway. Simons would have to have the best season of his career and do so as the #1 option. He'd need a 30% usage rate. Boston has too many good perimeter players for that to happen.
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Simons had the keys of the offense handed to him and everyone thought he would average 25 ppg.... and then he didn't. He has been extremely mediocre since Dame left.
 
blazerfan11 said:
If he's stays on the team and stays healthy, looking forward to some defensive plays like these:

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A little shoutout to myself. The sweat mop you see at the 1:14 mark is my design, sort of. It's my buddy's company that makes them, I designed the LED lights around the base with a switch in the handle. We sent them to GS, Boston, Cleveland and offered to Portland but they weren't interested (they were a free promotional deal...still said no).
I thought I found my money train, but we only sold a handful of them. So, back to being poor.
I also designed a fiber optic screen on top of the mops that could show either ingame highlights or just a cool light show (light the pregame) while the mops were out on the floor, but they were going to be a harder sell. I had one more idea but he was skeptical of it after some experimenting.
 
inconceivable said:
Calling it now. Ant 2026 All Star
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He'll get more press now that he's in Boston and they'll rave about his scoring and call it a resurgence year. It will be interesting to see how he and Pritchard fit. I'd take PP out of those two 10 times out of 10.
 
cheesehoff said:
He'll get more press now that he's in Boston and they'll rave about his scoring and call it a resurgence year. It will be interesting to see how he and Pritchard fit. I'd take PP out of those two 10 times out of 10.
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He'll also get more press on how bad he is at defense.
 
blazerfan11 said:
If he's stays on the team and stays healthy, looking forward to some defensive plays like these:

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late the the thread, but I think we all know that Jrue won't be as active defensively as he was in some of these clips, but at least if he's beat on the defensive end it won't be because he's sitting there not knowing what he's supposed to do or in some cases, barely care.

Think of it this way, if Tatum hadn't torn his Achilles, and Boston was in an easier cap situation, would they ever consider doing this trade again?
 
wizenheimer said:
radical idea: Simons would be best as a 6th/7th man, 3rd/4th option. Him as a 1st/2nd option is going to fail
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The problem is that he doesn't do anything at an elite level.

He had two REALLY good seasons from three, but since then he has been just.... good.

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inconceivable said:
Calling it now. Ant 2026 All Star
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Seems like it might not be with the Celtics…

“I have talked to other teams who have said they are actively trying to trade Anfernee Simons," said Brian Windhorst on Wednesday's Hoop Collective Podcast. "Whether they can or not is another [thing].

Boston doesn’t even want to hold on to Ant…
 
Did I miss a press conference? Some here said it would happen during Vegas. It's been a while. What's up?
 
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