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The Blazers trade #7 for?

  • Multiple picks - keep one, trade one for Grant

  • Multiple picks - keep one, trade one for Collins

  • Down to #11 and get Randle

  • Down to #17 and get Wood

  • Include #7 with Nurk (S&T) for Ayton

  • OG Anunoby

  • Plus other assets to move up

  • Other - please specify

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wizenheimer said:
Collins is as much a wing as a PF
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He rebounds well and protects the rim well too. I think he's more of a starting caliber PF than we've had since LaMarcus. When you look at Chief then Melo then RoCo/Larry... I think Collins is more of a power forward than any of those guys but if you're saying that he's versatile and can get out and defend wings, I agree.
 
The more I think about it, the more I think we're all in for a summer of disappointment. It's easy to come up with deals that seem to make sense, but there are 29 other teams that are all angling to get the best players possible, and I think we're going to see them all be just as aggressive as Portland, if not moreso. I wouldn't be surprised to see Detroit and Atlanta just trade Grant straight across for Collins, or NY deal directly with Houston, or Toronto deal OG+?? to Phoenix for Ayton, etc. 'Cause all these other teams have better assets to offer than we do--which is why we want them...

Raining on my own parade, I guess, but when all the star/semi-star players find homes, I just see us being left without a chair when the music stops.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
The more I think about it, the more I think we're all in for a summer of disappointment. It's easy to come up with deals that seem to make sense, but there are 29 other teams that are all angling to get the best players possible, and I think we're going to see them all be just as aggressive as Portland, if not moreso. I wouldn't be surprised to see Detroit and Atlanta just trade Grant straight across for Collins, or NY deal directly with Houston, or Toronto deal OG+?? to Phoenix for Ayton, etc. 'Cause all these other teams have better assets to offer than we do--which is why we want them...

Raining on my own parade, I guess, but when all the star/semi-star players find homes, I just see us being left without a chair when the music stops.
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I'm fine with not having any major moves if we just end up drafting BPA and not taking on any horrible contracts or getting fleeced once again at the table.

To me, if we completely whiff, we just trade Dame and finally start the rebuild.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I'm fine with not having any major moves if we just end up drafting BPA and not taking on any horrible contracts or getting fleeced once again at the table.

To me, if we completely whiff, we just trade Dame and finally start the rebuild.
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Yep, agreed. Take Ant, Keon, Hart, Nas, Watford, Nurk, 7, and whatever assets we can get in exchange for Dame, and start over.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
The more I think about it, the more I think we're all in for a summer of disappointment. It's easy to come up with deals that seem to make sense, but there are 29 other teams that are all angling to get the best players possible, and I think we're going to see them all be just as aggressive as Portland, if not moreso. I wouldn't be surprised to see Detroit and Atlanta just trade Grant straight across for Collins, or NY deal directly with Houston, or Toronto deal OG+?? to Phoenix for Ayton, etc. 'Cause all these other teams have better assets to offer than we do--which is why we want them...

Raining on my own parade, I guess, but when all the star/semi-star players find homes, I just see us being left without a chair when the music stops.
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I am not going to be disappointed unless we go back to lazy offense and inconsistent defense or consistently bad defense. That's my worry.
I would like to see the players who won 4 straight boosted by the addition of Damian Lillard, Nassir Little and whomever else we add before using assets to add s0-s0 players. So I'm ok with not doing much.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
The more I think about it, the more I think we're all in for a summer of disappointment. It's easy to come up with deals that seem to make sense, but there are 29 other teams that are all angling to get the best players possible, and I think we're going to see them all be just as aggressive as Portland, if not moreso. I wouldn't be surprised to see Detroit and Atlanta just trade Grant straight across for Collins, or NY deal directly with Houston, or Toronto deal OG+?? to Phoenix for Ayton, etc. 'Cause all these other teams have better assets to offer than we do--which is why we want them...

Raining on my own parade, I guess, but when all the star/semi-star players find homes, I just see us being left without a chair when the music stops.
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This has been my thoughts for 4 months and why I hated the Clippers trade so much.

It wasn't just losing the 4 starters whom yes all had flaws. It was the Blazers having less assets to improve the roster short term or long term.
 
The more i think about it some fans need to have some faith -- at least get through this summer and prolly All star break and see where things stand instead of going into glass is ALL empty mode

Now do not get me wrong I think if the Blazers do not make serious strides in the coming season I will be for trading Dame as hard as it is for me to say that as he is the heart of this team since he has been a Blazer and one could argue talent wise is the top Blazer of all time.
 
Ripcity4life77 said:
The more i think about it some fans need to have some faith -- at least get through this summer and prolly All star break and see where things stand instead of going into glass is ALL empty mode

Now do not get me wrong I think if the Blazers do not make serious strides in the coming season I will be for trading Dame as hard as it is for me to say that as he is the heart of this team since he has been a Blazer and one could argue talent wise is the top Blazer of all time.
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I think if we don't make major strides on paper this offseason and then don't win at a better rate than we were with the Dame/CJ teams before the trade deadline, then you won't have to start being in favor of trading Dame because I think Dame and the team will do it for you.

I might be mistaken but I expect that before training camp starts and starting in a couple weeks Joe will be wheeling and dealing like Dame's legacy as a Trail Blazer for life is on the line. I guess we'll see.
 
If Chauncy and Joe have at the top of their board like, Banchero, Ivey, Murray the should try and trade up, as they may not be in this position for some time.
We have assets to do so.
 
Natebishop3 said:
You could argue that we lost 4 starter quality players though.
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I've been around here long enough to know you could say anything, and someone is going to argue it.

Powell was never a full time starter until he came here. And he started out of position. Better served for a bench role.
Nance has started generally due to I juries as well. Not a normal starter.

So I'd say 2 starters
 
RR7 said:
I've been around here long enough to know you could say anything, and someone is going to argue it.

Powell was never a full time starter until he came here. And he started out of position. Better served for a bench role.
Nance has started generally due to I juries as well. Not a normal starter.

So I'd say 2 starters
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Wasn’t he starting for the raptors before we traded for him and he was putting up very good numbers at the two. I don’t think it’s fair that we traded for him and put him at the three and then wondered why he wasn’t successful. And he STILL put up decent numbers at the three.
 
OMG a reddit poster drops the Grant trade again with more speculation -- ho hum -- come back to me once a Woj or someone breaks the news until then -- NEXT

One last thing -- what was the last trade rumor that had legs for this long that came to reality ??
 
RR7 said:


Don't love it. Would haggle to keep keon, though that's probably stupid.
At the same time, we can likely get someone we like just as much at 11, and gain another future pick, which would be nice.
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I like it. then send 11 and expiring for Grant (or best other available long 3). Balance that roster. Pull the trigger.
 
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1. Why is anyone bringing up #7 for Grant? Is there an actual reason? Woj said something?
2. If other teams make deals they prefer that don’t include the Blazers, then I guess Cronin uses the 7the pick. I’m just fine with that. There are legit forwards to take. They may not be optimally on Dame’s timeline, but they can help the team. Then use #36. Or move up a bit to ensure getting PROCIDA!
3. I love the trade talk and creative number crunching. If a significant trade happens for the Blazers, I’m sure there will be re-calculations of previous trades and future prognostication and … fun for all. But no Grant for #7.
 
blazerfan11 said:
We also lost the attitude that it's ok to play shitty defense.
There was a culture change as soon as the new guys arrived.
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That was one of the biggest things I couldn't stand. There was a sense of entitlement with certain player and how much effort they gave on the defensive end. The other players, would be yanked after a few minutes if they did something that an offensive vet had been doing for years.

One of the reasons for Pop's success for so many years is that he held Duncan and Robinson to the same standards as the 12th man on the bench. Those end rotation guys knew that if Pop was dressing down Duncan, they weren't safe.
 
HoopsFanAZ said:
1. Why is anyone bringing up #7 for Grant? Is there an actual reason? Woj said something?
2. If other teams make deals they prefer that don’t include the Blazers, then I guess Cronin uses the 7the pick. I’m just fine with that. There are legit forwards to take. They may not be optimally on Dame’s timeline, but they can help the team. Then use #36. Or move up a bit to ensure getting PROCIDA!
3. I love the trade talk and creative number crunching. If a significant trade happens for the Blazers, I’m sure there will be re-calculations of previous trades and future prognostication and … fun for all. But no Grant for #7.
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Only way I trade for Grant is if we have added another pick by trading #7 for a great 2 way Power Forward.

Otherwise we need to add more than just Grant with #7 and an expiring.

New York is who I'd be looking at. For either Tobbin or Randle and #11. But I'm open to suggestions.
 
The arguments some have made for getting Collins from Atlanta seem in the ballpark. The Knicks and the 11, too. Out of the draftees I like for the Blazers, getting one of them extends for sure to 10 … which means a guy like Mathurin, Davis or Griffin is a top 10 pick (SG, SG, SF w/ knees). Lucky 7 or 11 for the Blazers!
 
HoopsFanAZ said:
The arguments some have made for getting Collins from Atlanta seem in the ballpark. The Knicks and the 11, too. Out of the draftees I like for the Blazers, getting one of them extends for sure to 10 … which means a guy like Mathurin, Davis or Griffin is a top 10 pick (SG, SG, SF w/ knees). Lucky 7 or 11 for the Blazers!
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It starting to look like we can get two of Collins, OG, randle, and Grant this summer. I still think OG with one of the other guys would push us into contention. But if we don’t get OG, it another season of mediocrity
 
damianlillard said:
It starting to look like we can get two of Collins, OG, randle, and Grant this summer. I still think OG with one of the other guys would push us into contention. But if we don’t get OG, it another season of mediocrity
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If we turn 7, Keon, Bucks pick, Bledsoe and an exception into OG and Grant, we'll be very very good immediately with plenty of room for growth to get even better.
 
While I understand needing a veteran like Grant I’m just not sure he’s worth the upside of a young guy who can do a lot of same things at much cheaper price while not sacrificing the future.

Hoping we get a bidding war for #7 and get something better. Personally if we are trading #7 I’d rather have Collins
 
damianlillard said:
It starting to look like we can get two of Collins, OG, randle, and Grant this summer. I still think OG with one of the other guys would push us into contention. But if we don’t get OG, it another season of mediocrity
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Why do you believe it's starting to look like this?

Are you saying so because a bunch of Blazers fans are proposing such?

The actual value Cronin gets could be very different. From the value he got at the deadline I'm not optimistic he's adding multiple high level valuable starters here.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Why do you believe it's starting to look like this?

Are you saying so because a bunch of Blazers fans are proposing such?

The actual value Cronin gets could be very different. From the value he got at the deadline I'm not optimistic he's adding multiple high level valuable starters here.
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Then again, while I'm sitting here thinking "Were it not for Sell-Low Joe's deadline debacle, CJ for Randle would have already happened by now", I'm also sitting here thinking, "If NY demanded Hart for Randle, I don't know that I'd be on board with that".

I'm so conflicted!
 
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