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In my opinion "die hard fans" watch every game possible regardless of who's playing. That's ME! I don't give a shit about those patches or commercial breaks. Pays the bills. Aside from that, to each his own. Sure seems like you and Nate have a lot of pent up hate towards basketball......why the hell do you even watch?
Is reading comprehension a thing for you or not?

I don't have hate towards basketball. I love basketball, and that's the only reason why Im a Blazer fan. I hate the way the NBA does things. You're a die-hard NBA fan, I'm a die-hard Blazer fan. Big difference. Most people are die-hard fans of a team, not the league, because the league is bullshit. That's why you don't understand the annoyance. The extra money doesn't pay the bills. They already got enough money for that. It's extra money the don't need but make the fans put up with while ruining the sacredness of the uniform.
 
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WTF?
 
In my opinion "die hard fans" watch every game possible regardless of who's playing. That's ME! I don't give a shit about those patches or commercial breaks. Pays the bills. Aside from that, to each his own. Sure seems like you and Nate have a lot of pent up hate towards basketball......why the hell do you even watch?

My feelings have nothing to do with basketball. I love basketball. My frustration and hatred is for the National Basketball Association as a corporation. I don't like how it has modified the game. I don't like how it has marketed the game. I don't like how it has controlled the game. I used to LOVE watching the NBA. I was a huge Pacers fan back in the 90s. I loved watching the Bulls. I loved watching the Rockets with Hakeem. I loved watching the Magic. There were so many fun teams and so many great rivalries. The current league is a joke compared to the NBA of the late 80s and 90s.

Name on rivalry on the same level as the Pacers/Knicks or the Bulls/Pistons or the Blazers/Jazz where the teams hated each other?
 
My feelings have nothing to do with basketball. I love basketball. My frustration and hatred is for the National Basketball Association as a corporation. I don't like how it has modified the game. I don't like how it has marketed the game. I don't like how it has controlled the game. I used to LOVE watching the NBA. I was a huge Pacers fan back in the 90s. I loved watching the Bulls. I loved watching the Rockets with Hakeem. I loved watching the Magic. There were so many fun teams and so many great rivalries. The current league is a joke compared to the NBA of the late 80s and 90s.

Name on rivalry on the same level as the Pacers/Knicks or the Bulls/Pistons or the Blazers/Jazz where the teams hated each other?

Funny thing is years from now some older person is going is miss this era and say the same thing your saying with the current stars. It's the cycle of life bud
 
Funny thing is years from now some older person is going is miss this era and say the same thing your saying with the current stars. It's the cycle of life bud

The style of the game has completely changed, do you not agree?
 
The style of the game has completely changed, do you not agree?
When basketball started out, they never dribbled the ball, only passed it like rugby...the ball didn't bounce well because it didn't have as much air in it and scores were really low....that's how it was designed....it's improved throughout the decades in many ways....I do miss handchecking though and physical play that refs used to let go....that's changed for sure...all in all though, I choose to enjoy basketball as it is. People think the modern era has changed but I think hoops changed under Michael Jordon more than any era........enter the superstar era.....every team needs this 50 pt scoring dude ....before Jordan I think the sport was more team oriented and less star struck
 
When basketball started out, they never dribbled the ball, only passed it like rugby...the ball didn't bounce well because it didn't have as much air in it and scores were really low....that's how it was designed....it's improved throughout the decades in many ways....I do miss handchecking though and physical play that refs used to let go....that's changed for sure...all in all though, I choose to enjoy basketball as it is. People think the modern era has changed but I think hoops changed under Michael Jordon more than any era........enter the superstar era.....every team needs this 50 pt scoring dude ....before Jordan I think the sport was more team oriented and less star struck

I think there have been a few significant changes, but you're right, one of them was the Jordan era and how he impacted marketing.

Another one is the AAU culture that has created these bonds between the players that has transcended onto the pro level and created these weird clicks of star players. There used to be rivalries between teams/players. So much so that they hated each other. Do we see that anymore? There aren't even really any fights in the league.

The changing of the rules to open up the game and make it harder for defenders to stop someone.

And then there's the bullshit refereeing......
 
I think there have been a few significant changes, but you're right, one of them was the Jordan era and how he impacted marketing.

Another one is the AAU culture that has created these bonds between the players that has transcended onto the pro level and created these weird clicks of star players. There used to be rivalries between teams/players. So much so that they hated each other. Do we see that anymore? There aren't even really any fights in the league.

The changing of the rules to open up the game and make it harder for defenders to stop someone.

And then there's the bullshit refereeing......
Well lucky for you sir baseball is still going on. You should DVR a shit ton of games and watch them all winter.
 
Well lucky for you sir baseball is still going on. You should DVR a shit ton of games and watch them all winter.

And you can keep on enjoying your watered down WWE version of basketball.
 
And you can keep on enjoying your watered down WWE version of basketball.
And I will. I'm a fan of the game and that's why I post here on this basketball forum my man. I fucking dispise baseball. EVERY aspect of it.....thus I don't read about it, watch it, or go to a forum to talk about it. If I don't like it, I don't pay attention to it. Easy as that.
 
New Jerseys will have O'brien trophy on back center collar with number of championships won next to it. Kind of fucked up for teams that haven't won any. A big fat 0 next to the trophy.
 
New Jerseys will have O'brien trophy on back center collar with number of championships won next to it. Kind of fucked up for teams that haven't won any. A big fat 0 next to the trophy.

I think only the teams that have won get the trophy oramiwrong?
 
If so, it is going to look really stupid having an empty trophy on 12 team's jerseys.
Thank God for '77.

Ps. Do the Thunder get one for their Sonics years? What was that, '79?

I'm sure they will.
 
New Jerseys will have O'brien trophy on back center collar with number of championships won next to it. Kind of fucked up for teams that haven't won any. A big fat 0 next to the trophy.
Been like that since 2014 FAMS.......


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If NBA teams have won a championship, they have had a trophy and the number of times won next to it on a gold patch on the back of their unis since the 2014 season my peeps.
 
The above pic has the trophy and the number 3 next to it. This was the Cavs I believe.
 
The above pic has the trophy and the number 3 next to it. This was the Cavs I believe.

The Cavs have only won 1
 

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