Notice Chauncey Billups new Portland Trail Blazers head coach

[JoshuaHall]

Wow…….this is one of the most tone deaf comments I have heard in my six years here. Just wow. I can’t wait for you to whitesplain it. Appalling.

I, as a black man, am supposed to whitesplain something?

Interesting.

Tell me how that works, please?

Maybe you can womansplain it to me.

 

[Propagandist]

Idk but I can objectively say you avoided the question. Jog on.

I addressed your absurdity with absurdity. Yes, when you choose to take on a few dudes, it is your choice, of course. As for personal responsibility, I'm unsure what exactly you are implying or saying, but blaming victims is weird and telling.

 

[Propagandist]

I would prefer if you said, your opinions on this subject suck.

I apologize.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

If you shop at Walmart, or ANY STORE, OR Pay Taxes, it is an absolute statistical certainty that everyone here, including me, is actively supporting rapists and murderers.

We may not want to fully support people who we know are rapists or murderers, so it becomes a matter of who is the arbiter? We have a legal system, and they are the default arbiter. Of course, they could get it wrong, and it is sensible to protest things you think the legal system got wrong.

However, for me, it is very unclear that the legal system got it wrong.

This feels more like Canzano trying to stir shit, and the fact that there is so much outrage only increases my certainty that the Blazers, a small market team from an apparent SJW backwater, will never win a championship.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I apologize.

I reject your apology and if you ever get a job as a moderator I will show them that post.

 

[Scalma]

I addressed your absurdity with absurdity. Yes, when you choose to take on a few dudes, it is your choice, of course. As for personal responsibility, I'm unsure what exactly you are implying or saying, but blaming victims is weird and telling.

blaming victims? How do you know for a fact who the victim even is? (This is a rhetorical question, I don’t need a response)

if an adult wants to get railed by multiple people, I don’t give a fuck. Not my business, and I’m certainly not going to pass any judgements on a persons character over it.

 

[Natebishop3]

I, as a black man, am supposed to whitesplain something?

Interesting.

Tell me how that works, please?

Maybe you can womansplain it to me.

Didn’t you know everyone is a straight white male on the internet?

 

[tlongII]

I want a good coach.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

I, as a black man, am supposed to whitesplain something?

Interesting.

Tell me how that works, please?

Maybe you can womansplain it to me.

It is my belief that you made your comment to a black man. And if so, regardless of your own color (or his…..or mine) I found it offensive. Simple as that. Yeah, I know what happens when we assume………but then this whole site (and this thread in particular) is one big assumption. So you know where that leaves every one of us. Does that work for you?

 

[BBert]

A "mistake" generally (IMO) means a bad judgment or a decision with faulty information. I don't think malicious actions like rape qualify as a mistake. It's not merely a poor judgment (like misreading your audience when making a joke, or even drunk driving which, while it can have horrible consequences, might arise out of your mistaken belief that you're not very impaired) or anything to do with not having sufficient information. It's a purposeful choice to harm someone.

Being in that room, in that situation, was a mistake. I'm not in a position to judge what did or did not happen after that.

 

[Propagandist]

Are you fucking serious with this shit?

So anyone with the "potential" (i.e accused) of having committed a crime like this 20+ years ago is automatically guilty? And if someone wants to endorse someone who had the "potential" 20+ years ago then that's a negative on their fucking character?

Why is it just automatically impossible to believe for some of you that a young woman has sex with a professional athlete and then accuses them of rape in order to get money? Why is that not even a possibility?

You're "potentially" fucking stupid.

INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY

Hey it’s the Mel Gibson apologist chiming in! And with such a thoughtful response!

I’m not saying Billups is guilty. And I used the wrong word. Should have said “accused” or something. I’m very sorry. What I’m saying is hiring him without addressing the incident is hypocritical and this rabid defense of him is both telling and embarrassingly reactionary.

 

[BBert]

I would’ve bet any kind of money Hammon not kneeling for the anthem would’ve been brought up on blazersEdge at some point. If people want to get mad, they will find something to get mad about.

We live in a society dominated by outrage addicts. On the left and on the right. Social media is the virus keeping this plague alive.

 

[BBert]

I will be utterly shocked if Billups sticks around for the crucifixion.

Time to welcome the Trail Blazers new head coach: Let's give a big round of applause to Mike D'Antoni!!

 

[noknobs]

Hey it’s the Mel Gibson apologist chiming in! And with such a thoughtful response!

I’m not saying Billups is guilty. And I used the wrong word. Should have said “accused” or something. I’m very sorry. What I’m saying is hiring him without addressing the incident is hypocritical and this rabid defense of him is both telling and embarrassingly reactionary.

Ah yes, defending someone who wasn't convicted of a damn thing is embarrassing. I'm so embarrassed.

 

[riverman]

Hey it’s the Mel Gibson apologist chiming in! And with such a thoughtful response!

I’m not saying Billups is guilty. And I used the wrong word. Should have said “accused” or something. I’m very sorry. What I’m saying is hiring him without addressing the incident is hypocritical and this rabid defense of him is both telling and embarrassingly reactionary.

I don't for one second think we hired Chauncey without vetting him or addressing the issue that came up first time his name was mentioned....Neil already brought him to the Clippers once....I think this guy has been vetted for over two decades of job searching....makes zero sense ...there are serial rapists and violent rapists in the world but lumping Chauncey in with them is wrong from what I've read.....I read she gave him a blowjob and he took here to Walker's house where the other stuff happened..so number one....if Chauncey is telling the truth she went home with him and performed oral sex on him....that's not rape. Weird to me how people act like it needs to be tried by twitter

 

[riverman]

I swear rabid fans are going to be the death of this franchise in Portland...turning everybody into a whack a mole session. All the good guys are going to "part ways" if the culture takes a fucking nosedive now. If Dame leaves and Jody sells the team and moves it I'm going to be pissed...I'm not going to blame Chauncey, I'm going to blame the rabid fans. Try to cheer...celebrate a new era of Blazer hoops and support our team. Dame is not happy at all with the way people are reacting when he should be excited about his new coach and next season

 

[TheHobbit]

everyone has baggage

(waiting for the, “Becky Hammons has no baggage” comments. they might be right. but my belief is that everyone has baggage.)

I'm kind of baffled by people who think this way. Everyone has baggage of some kind, but not everyone has "rape accusation and settlement" level of baggage.

 

[Minstrel]

.if Chauncey is telling the truth she went home with him and performed oral sex on him....that's not rape.

Sure, if Billups is telling the truth. That's a weird assertion to make, since that's obvious. A lot of people who actually did commit crimes would be not guilty if you took their word for it. The entire question is whether he's telling the truth.

I don't think it takes "rabid" (with the implication that they're out of control) fans to question this hire and wonder about a crime that was committed (unless you believe she inflicted the wounds on herself) and Billups' proximity to it. Nobody is saying he's definitely a rapist.

 

[BBert]

Isn't everyone a "potential sex offender" in the sense that they could be? Seems like an odd designation.

Watch out the Pre-Crime Police are on their way.

 

[BBert]

I think it’s indicative of how this country is. We talk about it wanting to rehabilitate criminals and be more like some European countries but we don’t really forgive criminals. We just like the idea of rehabilitation.

The United States penal system has never been about rehabilitation. Americans are all about that punishment. That's why we have the highest incarceration rate in the world.

 

[riverman]

Sure, if Billups is telling the truth. That's a weird assertion to make, since that's obvious. A lot of people who actually did commit crimes would be not guilty if you took their word for it. The entire question is whether he's telling the truth.

I don't think it takes "rabid" (with the implication that they're out of control) fans to question this hire and wonder about a crime that was committed (unless you believe she inflicted the wounds on herself) and Billups' proximity to it. Nobody is saying he's definitely a rapist.

it quite simply isn't our place to convict him or accuse him of perjury...and I believe people are innocent until proven guilty...we're not talking about alot of people who commit crimes...we're talking about an NBA personality who is not convicted of a crime...I tend to believe people until I have a reason not to....Chauncey doesn't strike me as a dishonest man and I gave enough of a shit about the story to read up on it....people who actually dealt with the case didn't see reason to not believe him either or arrest him...I accept that reality. There are weird people in the world..there are predators, rapists, sadists and masochists as well as gold diggers...we are not qualified to retry this case and it's past the statute of limitations as well..legally

 

[<-=*PdX*=->]

I will be utterly shocked if Billups sticks around for the crucifixion.

Time to welcome the Trail Blazers new head coach: Let's give a big round of applause to Mike D'Antoni!!

I mean, maybe Jody is playing some 4D chess here? Cant convince the Vulcans to fire Neil so she is giving him enough rope to hang himself with the backlash of this hire so she can fire him and hire Becky?

 

[B-Roy]

Sure, if Billups is telling the truth. That's a weird assertion to make, since that's obvious. A lot of people who actually did commit crimes would be not guilty if you took their word for it. The entire question is whether he's telling the truth.

I don't think it takes "rabid" (with the implication that they're out of control) fans to question this hire and wonder about a crime that was committed (unless you believe she inflicted the wounds on herself) and Billups' proximity to it. Nobody is saying he's definitely a rapist.

I guess you haven't read Blazersedge or Reddit. (And you shouldn't)

 

[PCmor7]

I definitely did some stupid shit in my youth. None of it comes even remotely close to a rape allegation but I could have gotten in trouble. I just didn’t get caught.

You don't say ... (dialing 9-1-1) ...

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I swear rabid fans are going to be the death of this franchise in Portland...turning everybody into a whack a mole session. All the good guys are going to "part ways" if the culture takes a fucking nosedive now. If Dame leaves and Jody sells the team and moves it I'm going to be pissed...I'm not going to blame Chauncey, I'm going to blame the rabid fans. Try to cheer...celebrate a new era of Blazer hoops and support our team. Dame is not happy at all with the way people are reacting when he should be excited about his new coach and next season

Always been this way

 

[Tince]

The United States penal system has never been about rehabilitation. Americans are all about that punishment. That's why we have the highest incarceration rate in the world.

Not only do we lock more people up, for longer times, and provide no meaningful rehabiliation, but we want people to pick themselves up by the boot straps after they're released and turn it around... all while making sure they can't succeed too much or there will be a columnist slandering their employer.

I've never understood how that best serves anyone in the community.

 

[Mediocre Man]

So I basically just ended a discussion about Billups hire with my cousin, and ended it by asking this simple question.

“I get that you are against the hire because of his past, but tell me one thing…….What did he do?”


To me that’s the best question. The answer has to be “I don’t really know?”

You can’t condemn someone because maybe, or I think

 

[B-Roy]

So I basically just ended a discussion about Billups hire with my cousin, and ended it by asking this simple question.

“I get that you are against the hire because of his past, but tell me one thing…….What did he do?”


To me that’s the best question. The answer has to be “I don’t really know?”

You can’t condemn someone because maybe, or I think

Seems like your stance has shifted somewhat since the beginning of this 10 page thread.

 

[Minstrel]

it quite simply isn't our place to convict him or accuse him of perjury

Right and nobody (here) is doing that. So we're all good!

 

[BBert]

So I basically just ended a discussion about Billups hire with my cousin, and ended it by asking this simple question.

“I get that you are against the hire because of his past, but tell me one thing…….What did he do?”


To me that’s the best question. The answer has to be “I don’t really know?”

You can’t condemn someone because maybe, or I think

I'm reminded of the classic film: "Twelve Angry Tweeters".