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I actually think Teague is an intriguing prospect.
 
MickZagger said:
I actually think Teague is an intriguing prospect.
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enlighten me, I honestly have not seen him but his numbers look weak and ATL would seem to crave a young PG if they showed anything? what am I missing
 
Blazinaway said:
enlighten me, I honestly have not seen him but his numbers look weak and ATL would seem to crave a young PG if they showed anything? what am I missing
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About as explosive an athlete at the point position. Like, Rose and Westbrook type athletic. Probably needs to work on his playmaking abilities big time. But, I'd take a gamble on him for sure.
 
I'd think that Joel is the logical guy to go, maybe with another bit player. I'd be surprised if Cho looks for a project-type PG, though. He says in the article that a starting-quality PG would cost one of the core and he's not going to do that. I'd think he'd look for a PF that can score to play along side of Aldridge.
 
"I will be the first one to admit that I thought the New Orleans pick would be a higher pick. I will be the first to admit that," Cho said.
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You gave up an 11th pick for nothing of value this season, and you left your team without a viable back-up PG.

That's worth firing someone over if I'm running a real business, and not NBA Playland, where the future of a franchise can change course solely on the whims of an owner who views this as a hobby.
 
PapaG said:
You gave up an 11th pick for nothing of value this season, and you left your team without a viable back-up PG.

That's worth firing someone over if I'm running a real business, and not NBA Playland, where the future of a franchise can change course solely on the whims of an owner who views this as a hobby.
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He saved the Blazers $4.6 million in salary and luxury tax payments this year, got a first round pick and a traded player exception. I think that he's probably got a bit of rope to work with yet.
 
"I will be the first one to admit that I thought the New Orleans pick would be a higher pick. I will be the first to admit that," Cho said. "But at the same time, I don't think you can say that is going to be a worthless pick, because if you look at two of the guys who are critical components of this team -- Wesley Matthews and Nicolas Batum -- they were undrafted and the 25th pick."
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Uh, huh. Because players who are undrafted and the 25th pick are often centerpieces of a rebuilding project. Where were Durant and Westbrook chosen again?
 
Of all the writers online, Berger is probably the least reliable. He throws so much shit on the wall and hopes that something will stick. I would take his word with a grain of salt, moreso than past shit stirrers like Sam Smith and Peter Vescey.
 
BBert said:
Uh, huh. Because players who are undrafted and the 25th pick are often centerpieces of a rebuilding project. Where were Durant and Westbrook chosen again?
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After years of watching/hearing KP talk, Cho is sort of a joke. KP had most of us eating out of his hands. I guess it should have been expected that Cho (a generally quiet dude, without KP's knack for speaking) would look bad.
 
Natebishop3 said:
It just seemed like maybe should have more value than that.... but maybe I'm wrong.
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To me,trading Bayless was a good move. He's a classic "have a decent game 1 in 5 and hurt you the other 4" player. That 5th game keeps you playing him when he should be gone. I mean, I wish him well, but he wasn't producing on a consistent enough basis and he was given a fair chance to do so.
 
BLAZER PROPHET said:
To me,trading Bayless was a good move. He's a classic "have a decent game 1 in 5 and hurt you the other 4" player. That 5th game keeps you playing him when he should be gone. I mean, I wish him well, but he wasn't producing on a consistent enough basis and he was given a fair chance to do so.
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Agree and he wasn't even a good fit on the Blazers.

Bayless is having some good games with Toronto and I'm happy for him. But I don't get how trading Bayless for anything can be considered a terrible trade. Maybe the pick isn't as high as Cho was thinking, but you weren't going to get a top ten pick for him.

We probably could have gotten Jared Jack in the end instead of a pick . . .
 
e_blazer said:
He saved the Blazers $4.6 million in salary and luxury tax payments this year, got a first round pick and a traded player exception. I think that he's probably got a bit of rope to work with yet.
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I hope so, e. His candid answer does scare me a bit, though.
 
Treaty_of_Batum said:
Agree and he wasn't even a good fit on the Blazers.

Bayless is having some good games with Toronto and I'm happy for him. But I don't get how trading Bayless for anything can be considered a terrible trade. Maybe the pick isn't as high as Cho was thinking, but you weren't going to get a top ten pick for him.

We probably could have gotten Jared Jack in the end instead of a pick . . .
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Why trade Bayless, though? Larry Miller said they knew about Roy's knee issues even when the extended his contract, yet they trade away the one other player on the team that could create his own offense for nothing of value this season?

Cho is even admitting it is a mistake. He must be on thin ice right now to even make that admission in the media.
 
MickZagger said:
We won't know if that trade was dumb for a couple years. Bayless isn't exactly setting the world on fire. He's a 15 minute a night guy on an awful team.
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Or 22 mpg. You're only off by more than 50%.

Ed O.
 
Ed O said:
Or 22 mpg. You're only off by more than 50%.

Ed O.
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Sure, if you want to include the time that Calderon has been hurt and Bayless was the starter because they have nobody else at the point.
 
MickZagger said:
Sure, if you want to include the time that Calderon has been hurt and Bayless was the starter because they have nobody else at the point.
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You mean reality? As in what's actually happened?

Yeah. Let's include reality.

Ed O.
 
Well at least Cho is honest...it was a gamble (trading Bayless), that of now doesn't look like it is going to pay off as well as Cho expected.....

That being said, there is absolutely ZERO proof that POR could have gotten anything better for Bayless, and the team that he was traded to (NO) promptly dealt him for Jarrett Jack, who has done very little to warrant being better than a mid 1st pick himself....

Where are all the Bayless updates right now anyway? Oh yeah, that is right, not much to say when he is going 1-3 and scoring 2pts...

Would I rather have Bayless right now? Yes, better watching him that Mills/Johnson...but he was by no means another Jermaine O'Neal just waiting for his chance.....
 
Ed O said:
You mean reality? As in what's actually happened?

Yeah. Let's include reality.

Ed O.
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Take away the 4 games he was thrust into the starting lineup because of no other options and the harsh 'reality' sets in. He's averaging a little over 16 minutes a game, when the great Jose Calderon is on the floor and playing.

Nonetheless, 20 minutes a game on the lowly Raptors is pretty sad.
 
Blaze01 said:
Would I rather have Bayless right now? Yes, better watching him that Mills/Johnson...
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The only thing that I miss about him was his aggressiveness. Mills is a substantially PG that Bayless and shoots better. Bayless was a better positional defender. All in all, having Bayless playing PG was a very negative experience. At SG he was more tolerable.
 
with the talk of trading for teague the question is how do you get him? they dont really have huge contracts that arent doing anything for them right now that we could take on for them. Maybe taking on bibby for miller? that might actually work for them? Not sure. I also thought they were high on teague... i dont remember where i read that so i could be wrong but i thought they were. any ideas?
 
cdub503 said:
with the talk of trading for teague the question is how do you get him? they dont really have huge contracts that arent doing anything for them right now that we could take on for them. Maybe taking on bibby for miller? that might actually work for them? Not sure. I also thought they were high on teague... i dont remember where i read that so i could be wrong but i thought they were. any ideas?
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It's ironic that Atlanta thinks of Teague like we do of our many failed PG's
 
B-Roy said:
Mills has played worse than Bayless....and has a lower ceiling.
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Stats per 36 minutes:

Player A: 15.4 points, 5.4 assists, 3.1 turnovers, 40% FG, 31% 3FG, 12.7 PER

Player B: 15 points, 6.6 assists, 3.4 turnovers, 41% FG, 28% 3FG, 13 PER

They are virtually the same. I also don't see why Bayless has a higher ceiling.
 
VanillaGorilla said:
Stats per 36 minutes:

Player A: 15.4 points, 5.4 assists, 3.1 turnovers, 40% FG, 31% 3FG, 12.7 PER

Player B: 15 points, 6.6 assists, 3.4 turnovers, 41% FG, 28% 3FG, 13 PER

They are virtually the same. I also don't see why Bayless has a higher ceiling.
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Bayless was NOT a Point Guard. Patty IS a Point Guard.

My POINT? Patty>Bayless for the Blazers. Hands down.

Getting rid of Bayless was a good move. And if it were me, I'd sign Miller to a 2-yr extension...the guy is a stud and will be a top 7 point guard for the next three years - trade Pryzbilla (to any takers) for whatever we can get for him (OJ Mayo?) whatever. For crying out loud...trade Rudy (he stinks) if there is a way to package him with Pryz to get something decent in return (Varejao?)
 
VanillaGorilla said:
Stats per 36 minutes:

Player A: 15.4 points, 5.4 assists, 3.1 turnovers, 40% FG, 31% 3FG, 12.7 PER

Player B: 15 points, 6.6 assists, 3.4 turnovers, 41% FG, 28% 3FG, 13 PER

They are virtually the same. I also don't see why Bayless has a higher ceiling.
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Bayless has a 14.7 PER with Toronto. He was jerked around in New Orleans.

He also has a higher rebound rate, assist rate, and LOWER usage rate, despite everyone calling Mills more a point guard than Bayless. Also, while Bayless may not be a stud on defense, Patty is probably one of the worst defenders in the league at his position. Bayless has a better NBA body, and is more athletic. He's a better prospect going forward.
 
B-Roy said:
Bayless has a 14.7 PER with Toronto. He was jerked around in New Orleans.

He also has a higher rebound rate, assist rate, and LOWER usage rate, despite everyone calling Mills more a point guard than Bayless. Also, while Bayless may not be a stud on defense, Patty is probably one of the worst defenders in the league at his position. Bayless has a better NBA body, and is more athletic. He's a better prospect going forward.
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You're missing the bottom line- Bayless is a train wreck at PG. Mills isn't.
 
BLAZER PROPHET said:
You're missing the bottom line- Bayless is a train wreck at PG. Mills isn't.
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You're right, Mills isn't a train wreck at PG, he's a single car accident at PG.
 
Why aren't you guys asking questions about his comments? What is the win-now trade that is out there for Batum? Also, who the fuck is the "young PG" we could get for Aldridge??
 
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