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Armed with the truth, the voters rejected Clinton. Get over it.

She had virtually all of the media on her side, digging through any and all public and private records available. They released every negative bit of dirt to be found, even waiting for the best timing to help Clinton.

The voters rejected Clinton, and the media, too.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/10/07...omeland-security-and-office-director-national

Joint Statement from the Department Of Homeland Security and Office of the Director of National Intelligence on Election Security
Release Date:
October 7, 2016

The USIC and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) assess that it would be extremely difficult for someone, including a nation-state actor, to alter actual ballot counts or election results by cyber attack or intrusion. This assessment is based on the decentralized nature of our election system in this country and the number of protections state and local election officials have in place. States ensure that voting machines are not connected to the Internet, and there are numerous checks and balances as well as extensive oversight at multiple levels built into our election process.
 
riverman said:
actually the voters rejected Trump by over 2 million votes but the electoral college definitely rejected Clinton
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They rejected Clinton most everywhere but California. Especially in her "blue wall."

The popular vote BS is like saying the team that scores the most baskets in the Finals wins the series. Though it could have been 4-1 with the lone loss a blowout.
 
Denny Crane said:
The popular vote BS
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There's a real point of contention with this system....my point was that voters voted for her and more than not....the electoral college is the way it is, but doesn't reflect the fact that more individuals actually didn't vote for Trump.....I thought you were a fact guy? I'm sure not calling Americans losers because of their vote...I accept the result ..what I want now is for all americans to stop talking from behind political walls and start showing a sense of cooperation moving forward. You and I voted for Gary Johnson.....so actually..we're losers too
 
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/12/clinton-counties/

  • Donald Trump won an overwhelming 7.5 million popular vote victory in 3,084 of the country’s 3,141 counties or county equivalents in America’s heartland.
  • Hillary Clinton, in contrast, had an 8.2 million vote margin in a narrow band of 52 coastal counties and five ‘county equivalent’ cities stretching from San Diego to Seattle on the West Coast and Northern Virginia to Boston on the East Coast.
  • “The Associated Press finds that Clinton won 487 counties nationwide, compared with 2,626 for President-elect Donald Trump
She might have won the mayoral race in LA, if she ran.
 
riverman said:
There's a real point of contention with this system....my point was that voters voted for her and more than not....the electoral college is the way it is, but doesn't reflect the fact that more individuals actually didn't vote for Trump.....I thought you were a fact guy? I'm sure not calling Americans losers because of their vote...I accept the result ..what I want now is for all americans to stop talking from behind political walls and start showing a sense of cooperation moving forward. You and I voted for Gary Johnson.....so actually..we're losers too
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There is no real point of contention. Both candidates knew the rules. Clinton had twice the money, virtually the entire media, and a sitting president. She lost.

You don't change the rules after the fact.

Your change would be like making it so the team with the most overall points wins the finals.

If it were a popular vote contest, Trump would have used a different strategy to beat her that way, too. Like spending more than no time and $0 in California.
 
Denny Crane said:
Your change would be like making it so the team with the most overall points wins the final
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No it wouldn't, besides, I've done nothing to lobby for it...and I abhor the thought of going through it again...it's over..but come next election it seems a valid point of contention to address.
 
Denny Crane said:
More people voted for him in the ways that mattered.
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yeah....we know this because it's how it works now...has little to do with the issue except that you seem to favor the electoral system as is
 
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-election-final-20161209-story.html

Start with California, where Clinton beat Trump by almost 2 to 1, amassing a margin of more than 4.2 million votes. That’s a victory more impressive even than Obama’s in 2012, and it included a win in Orange County, which had sided with the Republican in every presidential election back to 1936.​

But Clinton’s huge majority in the nation’s largest state was also part of her key weakness — a base of support too concentrated in the big, urban areas of the northeast and the West Coast.​

If Trump spent time and money in California, Clinton might have won big still - if by 2M votes, Trump is barely behind in the national popular vote. The evidence is clear enough - in Democratic strongholds he did go after, he actually won the state.
 
riverman said:
yeah....we know this because it's how it works now...has little to do with the issue except that you seem to favor the electoral system as is
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I do.

The country should not be run by LA and NYC.

A nobody from Plains GA should have a chance to be even considered.
 
Denny Crane said:
I do.

The country should not be run by LA and NYC.

A nobody from Plains GA should have a chance to be even considered.
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This, this, this and fucking THIS.

This is the entire point of the EC; and thank god it's that way, or this country would be ran by Mexico.
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
Oh yeah.....the FBI, that apolitical paragon of virtue and integrity. You're not helping your argument Maris......
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Of all our illustrious "intelligence" agencies, the FBI are the only one with any measurable standards at all.

They require credible evidence and provable facts before they accuse someone, or some country.

The CIA creates propaganda to further their interests, the NSA creates propaganda to protect themselves, and on and on...

The FBI investigates crimes and arrests criminal suspects.

The CIA assassinates enemies of whomever controls the CIA, and the NSA tracks and logs your porn-surfing forays.
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
Oh yeah.....the FBI, that apolitical paragon of virtue and integrity. You're not helping your argument Maris......
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Yeah he is.

They should have brought a case against Clinton in the first place. Politics kept them from doing the right thing.
 
Once upon a time, "liberals" gathered at the 1968 Democratic Party Convention and demonstrated against "the establishment." They stood for civil rights and individual liberty. Then they joined the Party and threw away their convictions in exchange for collectivism and power.

Today, they claim to want "change" from all sorts of perceived evils, but they are all butt hurt over the one guy who represents actual change getting elected. The man ran against his own party as well as the Democrats. Instead, these "liberals" wanted the status quo, warmonger, politically corrupt, candidate who has no convictions.

When it comes to education, the status quo must be maintained. A woman who's dedicated much of her life to improving education for children is going to be in a position to change that status quo. That status quo has seen a rapid decline in the quality of education, increased drop out rate, and particularly harmful to inner city minority youth. So fuck you if you cannot accept trying something else.

They beat the war drums for war against Russia, while the guy who was duly elected aims for peace.

For all their hate of Russia, what they seem to be butt hurt over is that we're not exactly like the old USSR. One party system, politburo control, the leader entitled to the office, ever increasing state power at the expense of individual Liberty, and a two tiered class system (the favored class and the masses). They suppress their opposition through propaganda, fearmongering, hate, outright lies, and physical violence.

I'm not saying Republicans are better, but Trump ran against those guys.

The stupidly unhappy can be butt hurt with their candidate in power or butt hurt not. I choose not.

Thank all that is good that they are losers.
 
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