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MickZagger said:
yes, I know the guy is scum. But that’s the thing. He caters to the masses of uneducated voters who for the most part are apolitical and think that’s its more American and Patriotic no matter who.

kudos to the Republican Party who have given off this sentiment to the majority of uneducated and thoughtless people that voting for their party means they’re as American as apple pie.

I think the KKK things is a lot more extreme than my peanut butter analogy.

because the majority of people I come across or know that are Trump supporters. Are either apolitical and feel it’s some kind of patriotic duty to vote republican, or they’re religious fanatics who believe that abortion/anti vaxx bullshit is their guide to every decision they make
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Trump would have never won without bringing the White working class Obama voters to his side. That’s how he won the rust belt. Calling them racist is ridiculous because they voted for Obama both his terms.
 
magnifier661 said:
Trump would have never won without bringing the White working class Obama voters to his side. That’s how he won the rust belt. Calling them racist is ridiculous because they voted for Obama both his terms.
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oh I know how he won the electoral. It was because labor union/ blue collar workers in the rust belt trusted him over Hillary who made a horrible mistake by not even trying to campaign in those areas. I firmly believe if Axelrod was her campaign manager that she would’ve won.

but most those rust belt blue collar voters weren’t ready for a wishy washy bitch like Hilary.

I’ve done a lot of reading and those same voters, and veterans are pissed off by the broken promises by Trump. He could give two fucks about them.

what was that company in Indiana who Trump kept gloating about saving and then they flopped? Can’t remember the name but I remember he kept using them as a campaigning chip only to eventually fuck them over
 
magnifier661 said:
Trump would have never won without bringing the White working class Obama voters to his side. That’s how he won the rust belt. Calling them racist is ridiculous because they voted for Obama both his terms.
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And I never called anyone racist
 
MickZagger said:
oh I know how he won the electoral. It was because labor union/ blue collar workers in the rust belt trusted him over Hillary who made a horrible mistake by not even trying to campaign in those areas. I firmly believe if Axelrod was her campaign manager that she would’ve won.

but most those rust belt blue collar voters weren’t ready for a wishy washy bitch like Hilary.

I’ve done a lot of reading and those same voters, and veterans are pissed off by the broken promises by Trump. He could give two fucks about them.

what was that company in Indiana who Trump kept gloating about saving and then they flopped? Can’t remember the name but I remember he kept using them as a campaigning chip only to eventually fuck them over
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They didn't want a woman to be president. If Bernie was the candidate, Trump would have lost.
 
calvin natt said:
He could not get himself to denounce the KKK. Or David Duke. But that’s your boy. Cool
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But he did an frequently repeated it. If you wanna press it then I’m fine with that. David Duke Hayes him because he’s pro Israel, but whatever.
 
MickZagger said:
oh I know how he won the electoral. It was because labor union/ blue collar workers in the rust belt trusted him over Hillary who made a horrible mistake by not even trying to campaign in those areas. I firmly believe if Axelrod was her campaign manager that she would’ve won.

but most those rust belt blue collar voters weren’t ready for a wishy washy bitch like Hilary.

I’ve done a lot of reading and those same voters, and veterans are pissed off by the broken promises by Trump. He could give two fucks about them.

what was that company in Indiana who Trump kept gloating about saving and then they flopped? Can’t remember the name but I remember he kept using them as a campaigning chip only to eventually fuck them over
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I think it was Honeywell. They are still around btw.
 
magnifier661 said:
Sorry, but Reason isn’t a rag I respect. The “real numbers” don’t lie.
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haha ok.

those are real numbers. You just can’t swallow it because it doesn’t support your narrative

I’ll take a non bias libertarian opinion about Trump over Forbes who is absolutely right wing and campaigns for Republicans

You funny.
 
magnifier661 said:
Obama had a recovery out of recession. Trump also boosted that recovery during his first term. Fuck, are you gonna make me find links on how deregulation was like jet fuel for the economy?
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You want to provide a link from a media source when you posted earlier that the media is the enemy of the people? So you only believe sources that fall in line with your personal policies? You can't call the media the enemy and then use the media to support your assertions. That's called hypocrisy.
 
MickZagger said:
haha ok.

those are real numbers. You just can’t swallow it because it doesn’t support your narrative

I’ll take a non bias libertarian opinion about Trump over Forbes who is absolutely right wing and campaigns for Republicans

You funny.
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The real numbers is. 745% increase in manufacturing jobs since taking office. Your argument is that’s not happening earlier. Using an article that tries to spin that data to be negative towards Trump doesn’t work. Sorry
 
CupWizier said:
You want to provide a link from a media source when you posted earlier that the media is the enemy of the people? So you only believe sources that fall in line with your personal policies? You can't call the media the enemy and then use the media to support your assertions. That's called hypocrisy.
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exactly
 
CupWizier said:
You want to provide a link from a media source when you posted earlier that the media is the enemy of the people? So you only believe sources that fall in line with your personal policies? You can't call the media the enemy and then use the media to support your assertions. That's called hypocrisy.
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I can provide many, but the most recent was when CNN changed headlines when the Democrats blocked the vote in Senate. I’ll tell you what. When I get free time. I will put together why I think the media is the enemy of the people. It will take a couple days, but I will provide links, picture examples and media clips. Deal?
 
And Forbes magazine isn’t a pro-Trump outlet. They’ve been hard on Trump on many occasions. But Forbes is a financial outlet. Which is way more reputable on finance. CNBC also is one. Both are way more reputable than Reason.
 
magnifier661 said:
The real numbers is. 745% increase in manufacturing jobs since taking office. Your argument is that’s not happening earlier. Using an article that tries to spin that data to be negative towards Trump doesn’t work. Sorry
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you’re posting a 2 year old article from Forbes a right leaning publication that doesn’t really cite anything supporting the numbers they threw at the wall. Meanwhile the argument was about the rust belt manufacturing jobs where I bring to light a non biased libertarian publication that gives Trump his props when due, but highlights that his promise to Midwest manufacturing sector has been a disaster

Cool
 
magnifier661 said:
I can provide many, but the most recent was when CNN changed headlines when the Democrats blocked the vote in Senate. I’ll tell you what. When I get free time. I will put together why I think the media is the enemy of the people. It will take a couple days, but I will provide links, picture examples and media clips. Deal?
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you need to be on Trumps team. I think they just did a power point about how they get picked on during a Coronavirus briefing the other day
 
MickZagger said:
you’re posting a 2 year old article from Forbes a right leaning publication that doesn’t really cite anything supporting the numbers they threw at the wall. Meanwhile the argument was about the rust belt manufacturing jobs where I bring to light a non biased libertarian publication that gives Trump his props when due, but highlights that his promise to Midwest manufacturing sector has been a disaster

Cool
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Jan 4, 2019 = 1.2 years ago. I can find a more recent one for you if you like. The trump admin’s greatest gain was in 2019. A more recent article will only validate it more.
 
MickZagger said:
you need to be on Trumps team. I think they just did a power point about how they get picked on during a Coronavirus briefing the other day
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I did enjoy them playing the media completely contradicting themselves in the press briefing. Watching their vitriolic response was so pleasing to watch.
 
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