Dame asks for trade (And there it is)

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PCmor7 said:
I think most people are respecting Dame's decision. We understand he has the right to do it. It's the vacillating and seemingly moving parameters and such that bother people, especially when if he'd have just come out and said it without being wishy-washy, no one would have begrudged him. He might want a trade. He might not. He wants vets, but, no, wait, Shaedon is OK. He wants another star and to be a contender. No, he wants a borderline all-star and he'll take it from there. He's giving the Blazers through the end of free agency. D'oh! The Blazers only re-signed Grant on the first day or free agency -- TRADE ME!

For my part, I wish people would consider the idea that the Blazers probably did make attempts to "swing for the fences," because, I mean, ask yourself this: Why wouldn't the Blazers want to have a better team?

"Hey, Dame wants us to re-sign Jerami and get another all-star." "Nahhhh, we don't wanna ...."

I mean, it's a silly idea.

There's also a level to risk. Trading a guy regarded as a potential generational talent for OG isn't risky. It's reckless. It's foolhardy. It's personnel malpractice and any other GM in the NBA would be sacked for doing it.

Finally, I wish people would understand that Cronin's first responsibility is to the organization, not to Damian Lillard. Dame got a lot he requested in 11 years with the Blazers -- teammates, coaches, playing style, relatives on the roster, max contracts. Now you're asking Cronin to mortgage the future, too, to get another Jerami Grant with no assurance Dame won't ask out anyway if it doesn't work out any better than the previous trades for vets and signings? I'm sorry, but that seems unreasonable.
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion and feelings. Mine is that Dame didn't mislead anyone and he was very transparent in what he wanted. I simply think Joe way oversold the idea that we are going to go all in on Dame we want him to retire a blazer.
Dame mad it very clear what his path would be, Joe's the one that tried to threat the needle and was wishy washy with some of his comments about getting older and taller and keeping & having Dame retire here. He could have simply said we'd rather go younger now with a new direction, and we will not mortgage our future. No, he said our intentions are to keep Dame Lillard a Blazer.
If you dont see this as Cronin failing somewhat, at least dont put it on Dame as being wishy washy?
 
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Strenuus said:
Most of my anger goes to the front office.

I'm only mad about dames wanting to go to one team. If we get the best deal possible (preferably to another team) that goes away and the grieving can begin l
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I have haven't seem evidence yet and I may have missed it, that Dame is on Record stating only one team. I can see him having preference but usually there are a 2/3 acceptable destinations presented by a player.
 
Hoopguru said:
I have haven't seem evidence yet and I may have missed it, that Dame is on Record stating only one team. I can see him having preference but usually there are a 2/3 acceptable destinations presented by a player.
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there is only one tweet by Amick that Dame told Cronin he's only play for one team. Almost positive it was bullshit
 
Hoopguru said:
I have haven't seem evidence yet and I may have missed it, that Dame is on Record stating only one team. I can see him having preference but usually there are a 2/3 acceptable destinations presented by a player.
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What makes it strange is we haven't heard his list by now. That's what honestly is giving it more credence.
 
LayneStaley said:
If Miami was gonna get Dame for nothing it would have already happened, the longer it takes the better the deal will be.
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Disagree.
This is just the beginning. These things usually take more time and we have a front office prone to unforced bad decisions.

Imagine where this goes when agents start pushing harder, Dame gets pissy more publicly and voices in management start again with the same old bullshit of "buying good will with agents and having a good reputation amongst players in the league".

To be clear: For me, Miami draft picks and Herro are nothing.
 
wizenheimer said:
there is only one tweet by Amick that Dame told Cronin he's only play for one team. Almost positive it was bullshit
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I don't actually think there is even one tweet from Amick. There are other reporters that have tweeted that according to Amick it's Miami or bust for Dame but in Amicks article that they are referring to he says that Miami is the preferred destination for Dame but Brooklyn is another place on his list. He does state that right now for Miami it's Dame or bust. You can look through his tweets and if you have The Athletic you can read the article. You'll never find him saying that Dame will only play for one team... unless I'm missing something.
 
Blazers Roy said:
Disagree.
This is just the beginning. These things usually take more time and we have a front office prone to unforced bad decisions.

Imagine where this goes when agents start pushing harder, Dame gets pissy more publicly and voices in management start again with the same old bullshit of "buying good will with agents and having a good reputation amongst players in the league".

To be clear: For me, Miami draft picks and Herro are nothing.
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A Miami deal begins and ends with a 3rd team. If a 3rd team isn't involved then they can fuck off.
 
It's unbelievable.

Miami almost didn't make the playoffs with Herro on the team. Almost fucked up the play-in lol

And then what? Giannis gets injured, Butler is amazing for a few games to win it, then Wohoo they beat the Knicks led by hall of Famer Jalen Brunson.

Almost shit the bed in coachless Boston, gets demolished in the finals by a team they admitted was much better than them after Butler is afraid to shoot from 3 *and* the midrange For Weeks!

Lost Vincent, maybe will lose Struss as well. Robinson and Martin are inconsistent

One of the worst home crowds in the league

Dame: I'M ONLY WILLING TO PLAY WITH THIS ONCE IN A LIFETIME TEAM!!!1
 
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Strenuus said:
A Miami deal begins and ends with a 3rd team. If a 3rd team isn't involved then they can fuck off.
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Herro and awful Miami picks? What can that get you around the league?

That's Zach Levine/Kuzma territory.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
My thought is Fentress is an idiot. He acts like only one team can be a contender if Dame is added. Miami is overrated.
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You had me at Fentress is an idiot. We used to have drinking games on who get get him to respond in an arrogant, pissed off manner the quickest. It never took look. So sanctimonious and so predictable.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Yes, but ring chasers will go anywhere if they think there is a chance. They even went to Cleveland.
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I think the true number of contenders if you add Dame is pretty small.

Lakers
Heat
maybe Raptors
Maybe Spurs - not sure how good Wemby will be.
Celtics
Clippers

Utah wouldn’t be.
Brooklyn wouldn’t be
Not sure about the Knicks
 
I remember Brian Grant deciding to go to Miami as a FA, I believe.
 
I think what they're going to discover, and what the fans are going to blame on Cronin, is that the market for Lillard is not going to bring a huge return. I think the initial excitement will get some teams caught up in the moment, and then reality will set in. The guy is undoubtedly an incredible competitor, a brilliant scorer, and one of the most clutch shooters in the game's history. He's also a 33 year old ball dominant point guard who leaves a lot to be desired on the defensive side of the ball. Then you have $200 million to deal with. I think this is a get it done and tear off the bandaid situation. It's going to hurt, and the fans are going to scream, but they sure as hell don't have a future when his 60mil comes due in a few years and they're trying to sign the current group of young players.

Oh, and I agree with CJ...Going to be fun to watch these young guys play basketball.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I think the true number of contenders if you add Dame is pretty small.

Lakers
Heat
maybe Raptors
Maybe Spurs - not sure how good Wemby will be.
Celtics
Clippers

Utah wouldn’t be.
Brooklyn wouldn’t be
Not sure about the Knicks
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Philly and New Orleans as well. I would put Toronto as more than just a maybe. Spurs...not so much.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Philly and New Orleans as well. I would put Toronto as more than just a maybe. Spurs...not so much.
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Philly maybe. All depends on how Dame and Embiid do and if they can stay healthy.

I don’t think Dame makes New Orleans a contender. They’d be a solid playoff team but unless Zion is healthy and he stays healthy, I don’t see them as a contender.
 
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