Dame asks for trade (And there it is)

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glazeduck said:
Yep, divorces can get messy, but you can't afford to just take whatever just to move on.

We're largely in the position we're in because we've gotten absolutely nothing from: Webster, Roy, LMA, Oden, Collins (3 1s!!!), Ariza, Roco, etc. Dame is our highest value asset of the past few decades, we can't afford to take cents on the dollar for him.
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Yeah but it was Dame who was sending sexy messages to the Heat so why should he get to keep the Foam finger collection from the 1985 NFC.
 
I think we are all gonna be surprised at what sell low Joe gets, seems like the past 2 season has been all about half assing shit to pretend he wants to build around Dame to not piss everyone off. My gut says he wanted a full rebuild from day 1 and now he gets nasty.
 
LayneStaley said:
If Gobert/PG gets you 5 1s Dame gets you 5 1s at least imo.
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If you're Danny Ainge, I think you're right. Let's see what Cronin can do.

Again, I did a bunch of research and the article that all of the "Miami or bust" buzz is coming from actually states very clearly that while Dame prefers Miami, it is the Heat that are in Dame or bust mode, not the other way around. Everything I've seen that says that Dame demanded Miami only cites Amick and that is not what Amick has reported... in fact in every Amick report that I've seen he says Brooklyn is the other team that he has heard Dame would be OK with... honestly that leads me to believe that Amick is just going off of that Showtime interview but that's just me being cynical towards journalists.
 
glazeduck said:
Yep, divorces can get messy, but you can't afford to just take whatever just to move on.

We're largely in the position we're in because we've gotten absolutely nothing from: Webster, Roy, LMA, Oden, Collins (3 1s!!!), Ariza, Roco, etc. Dame is our highest value asset of the past few decades, we can't afford to take cents on the dollar for him.
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Unfortunately, we have the Walmart of divorce lawyers.
 
Chris Craig said:
They need to add Jaquez.
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I really want Jaquez thrown in, too. Just seems to me like a guy that understands how to play and his teams always seem to be at a high level. Tests as a good athlete but his game is based on skill. Tough. If people like P.J. Tucker, they'd love Jaquez. Always will make your team better and more competitive and it'll take you 12 years to realize and appreciate just how good he is.
 
blazerkor said:
If you're Danny Ainge, I think you're right. Let's see what Cronin can do.

Again, I did a bunch of research and the article that all of the "Miami or bust" buzz is coming from actually states very clearly that while Dame prefers Miami, it is the Heat that are in Dame or bust mode, not the other way around. Everything I've seen that says that Dame demanded Miami only cites Amick and that is not what Amick has reported... in fact in every Amick report that I've seen he says Brooklyn is the other team that he has heard Dame would be OK with... honestly that leads me to believe that Amick is just going off of that Showtime interview but that's just me being cynical towards journalists.
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Damn right. They are the desperate ones now. Make them fucking pay.
 
PCmor7 said:
I really want Jaquez thrown in, too. Just seems to me like a guy that understands how to play and his teams always seem to be at a high level. Tests as a good athlete but his game is based on skill. Tough. If people like P.J. Tucker, they'd love Jaquez. Always will make your team better and more competitive and it'll take you 12 years to realize and appreciate just how good he is.
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And we really need guys like that as we are rebuilding.
 
Chris Craig said:
Damn right. They are the desperate ones now. Make them fucking pay.
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The problem is that they can't pay what they don't have. Also Riley is a fucking pit viper and Joe just hasn't shown himself to be close to that. Signing Jaquez was brilliant because now either Joe has to wade through this shit storm for 30 more days or not get Jaquez. I don't know if Jaquez is worth the drama if you can get the right three team deal out of Miami and Brooklyn.

I think if you get any combo of Clowney, Whitehead (neither of which have been signed by the Nets yet) and Jovic along with at least 4 FRPs and have to take on expiring salaries or I guess Simmons if you want to sign up for that. I think that's a pretty decent haul... not equal value necessarily but when dealing with prospects and picks it's very hard to tell.
 
Strenuus said:
That's exactly right. I'm not mad at him leaving, he has every right. I don't feel betrayed (look at the shit he endured professionally and personally), but I do take exception to the "only going to one team."
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which is an assertion I have not seen backed up anywhere. An Amick tweet does not mean Dame actually told Cronin that
 
maxiep said:
The high road would not to have your mouthpieces send the message you only want to go to one team. It's not the leaving that pisses me off, it's the dictating.
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prove Dame, or his mouthpieces actually said that
 
BankTeller said:
Four 1sts isn’t enough for me to go through with it. Jovic can’t be the best player coming back if we are only getting four picks back.
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Heat need to include Martin. I'm sure they don't want to, but future picks over 1/2 a decade away aren't worth that much. There needs to be a young player of substance. Jovic isn't it. Herro is duplication, Robinson has a horrible contract. Martin is it.
 
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TBpup said:
When did Rupert Grint become a Raptors fan?
(Props to him for being realistic)
OG, Achuiwa, Dick, Young and a couple of Draft picks.
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Yeah, you'd think he'd be a wizards fan.
 
Hoopguru said:
I wish people would respect Dames decision. If you want to blast someone blast Jody & Bert for not selling the team.
At my old age of 73, I was hopeful we could do as Joe said he would do and swing for the fence to give Dame a chance, thats all he requested.
Joe imo, struggles taking risk and the reason he's survived as long as he has as a Vulcan, is he's been a yes man, that rubs well & smiles.
He's a numbers cruncher and scout at heart.
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Most of my anger goes to the front office.

I'm only mad about dames wanting to go to one team. If we get the best deal possible (preferably to another team) that goes away and the grieving can begin l
 
Natebishop3 said:
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jj redick is pro players, he always supports them

im gonna listen to it, but i believe he said they should trade him to miami, cause hes ben loyal, cause thats where he wants to go, cause he deserves to play for a contender etc
 
I wonder if Riley and Lillard really thought Portland would just roll over and trade a top 10 player for absolute shit? Lillard and Miami dont want Jimmy, Bam, Caleb, or Jaquez included and only have 2 picks 5 years from now to offer lol. They must of thought Joe was a complete fucking chump. Hope they are wrong.
 
wizenheimer said:
prove Dame, or his mouthpieces actually said that
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Cant prove it, but the fact that Joe came out and basically said that they are going to sell Dame to the highest bidder sure does imply that Dame demanded the Heat
 
LayneStaley said:
I wonder if Riley and Lillard really thought Portland would just roll over and trade a top 10 player for absolute shit? Lillard and Miami dont want Jimmy, Bam, Caleb, or Jaquez included and only have 2 picks 5 years from now to offer lol. They must of thought Joe was a complete fucking chump. Hope they are wrong.
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I'm feeling a lot better about Joe after he refused to dump Scoot for a box of turds.
 
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