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twobullz said:
What happened to all the players he was saying wanted to come to Portland and play with him here? What did he do that was so loyal? not ask for a trade earlier?
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Obviously those players didn't make it here and YES, that is how he showed his loyalty. When year after year this team failed to put better talent around him after LaMarcus left, he showed his loyalty by not asking out... 100%. He showed his loyalty by being a helluva brand ambassador for the Blazers. He showed his loyalty by doing the kind of work he did in the community. Think back to the presser he did right before the Olympics... he felt like part of him showing loyalty was him always improving and he felt at that time the same kind of loyalty wasn't being shown by the front office.

This shit isn't between us (the fans) and Dame. Dame has shown us so much love over the years. This shit is about the Blazers front office/ownership and Dame. I do not blame Dame if he isn't worried about those people and is just worried about doing what's best for him now. The loyalty (giving it everything) was one way traffic all of that loyalty was coming from Dame with little to no reciprocity from the organization.

It sucks that we the fans who have also been loyal to Dame are kind of left out of the equation but I said this earlier: this is our hobby, this is Dame's life. So if fans of this team want to be mad at somebody be mad at Olshey and be mad at Cronin. I think the anger towards Dame is misplaced.
 
wizenheimer said:
am I the only one noticing that all of these reports of Dame being "unwavering" in his Miami desire....are coming out of Miami?

Riley is a fucking viper in the weeds
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Will continue to say this about Barry Jackson ... as a Miami Dolphins fan who is familiar with him, take his stuff with a grain of salt. He can be a pretty big fanboy.
 
Natebishop3 said:
https://www.si.com/nba/celtics/top-...lillard-to-join-celtics?utm_source=reddit.com

On NBA Today, Marc Spears of ESPN and Andscape shared he's heard Jayson Tatum is recruiting Damian Lillard to join the Celtics.

Less than a month ago, Bleacher Report's Chris Haynes stated it's "pretty safe to say" the seven-time All-NBA guard isn't interested in taking his talents to Boston. But perhaps Tatum's sales pitch proves effective.

That means the Celtics could acquire him without parting with Jaylen Brown. A package of Malcolm Brogdon, Robert Williams, Payton Pritchard, Justin Champagnie, three first-round picks, plus pick swaps, could top an offer from the Heat centered around Tyler Herro joining the Trail Blazers or going elsewhere in a three-team deal.

However, it's unlikely that proves the best proposal Portland receives. Boston could bolster it by including Derrick White, though.

Lol no.....
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Everyone thinks we need more guards.

Why would we want Brogdon who just failed a physical too. That has to hurt his value right now. Herro, while flawed, is a better asset with Miamis three firsts if they can get OKC to lift protections.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
Everyone thinks we need more guards.

Why would we want Brogdon who just failed a physical too. That has to hurt his value right now. Herro, while flawed, is a better asset with Miamis three firsts if they can get OKC to lift protections.
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Boston fans: We see that Miami is offering you a pile of garbage.... but have you considered our steaming pile of garbage as well?
 
RR7 said:
Yeah, I wanna know what Maxey can get us back in a 3 team deal. If it was Tobias and Maxey outgoingfor Dame(let them figure out Harden on their own), Maxey obviously doesn't have a spot here. But am sure other teams would be enticed
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I was thinking about this yesterday, because I think the Sixers could be a darkhorse here. Maxey has a place in Portland if you trade Ant.

I think that'd be an upgrade. Same player in a lot of ways but I think Maxey is a bit better.

Keep the better of the two, send the other guy out to get something you need.
 
blazerkor said:
Obviously those players didn't make it here and YES, that is how he showed his loyalty. When year after year this team failed to put better talent around him after LaMarcus left, he showed his loyalty by not asking out... 100%. He showed his loyalty by being a helluva brand ambassador for the Blazers. He showed his loyalty by doing the kind of work he did in the community. Think back to the presser he did right before the Olympics... he felt like part of him showing loyalty was him always improving and he felt at that time the same kind of loyalty wasn't being shown by the front office.

This shit isn't between us (the fans) and Dame. Dame has shown us so much love over the years. This shit is about the Blazers front office/ownership and Dame. I do not blame Dame if he isn't worried about those people and is just worried about doing what's best for him now. The loyalty (giving it everything) was one way traffic all of that loyalty was coming from Dame with little to no reciprocity from the organization.

It sucks that we the fans who have also been loyal to Dame are kind of left out of the equation but I said this earlier: this is our hobby, this is Dame's life. So if fans of this team want to be mad at somebody be mad at Olshey and be mad at Cronin. I think the anger towards Dame is misplaced.
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Dude was only loyal because he was getting paid well. He was loyal to himself and his family, not the fans. Was he the only player in the community? That is pretty common for players to be active in the community, not like he is doing something that a majority of the players are not out doing. Sheed did a coat drive every year and was out in the community and was not promoting it, he was doing it for the cause, Dame always made sure there was a camera there. It was about him, not him being loyal to the Blazers.
 
Bottom line it's in the Blazers court due to if they can't get what they want they don't have to trade him. Let be serious do you think honestly that Dame would sit out until he traded talking about a big red mark on your name if he did something like that. Plus they could find him each day that he didn't show up. So I am saying the blazers has the leverage on this situation. But do I really think that's going no I believe that Dame will end up in Miami but it will be at least 3 teams in the deal.
 
Haynes: "2 days before the draft, Joe Cronin called Damian Lillard and told him that they were likely keeping the pick. And from there, I know Dame didn't have any conversations with the Blazers at that point."

Pretty much what we figured.
 
I would be happy if Dame was traded to the Nets or Celtics. Again, if he joined any team but the Heat or Lakers I would gladly still root for him to win a championship. If he does join Miami I think I’d look at him in the same light as Lebron. That’s just me.
 
Labinot41 said:
It's getting ugly (if true)

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Natebishop3 said:
Haynes: "2 days before the draft, Joe Cronin called Damian Lillard and told him that they were likely keeping the pick. And from there, I know Dame didn't have any conversations with the Blazers at that point."

Pretty much what we figured.
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Yep. I remember commenting on the presser and saying that was really odd.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Boston fans: We see that Miami is offering you a pile of garbage.... but have you considered our steaming pile of garbage as well?
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I'm telling you this is a masterclass being conducted by Riley. He is letting all of these supposed offers of "take our shit" get out there. Then he's going to come in with a trade that gets us good value for Herro from a third team and it will be so much better than all of the shit that has been floated to the media that Cronin will take it and like it. It really might not even be that bad of a deal but it definitely won't be great.
 
TheGoldRanger said:
I would be happy if Dame was traded to the Nets or Celtics. Again, if he joined any team but the Heat or Lakers I would gladly still root for him to win a championship. If he does join Miami I think I’d look at him in the same light as Lebron. That’s just me.
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If he joined the Lakers, there's no coming back from that.
 
twobullz said:
Dude was only loyal because he was getting paid well. He was loyal to himself and his family, not the fans. Was he the only player in the community? That is pretty common for players to be active in the community, not like he is doing something that a majority of the players are not out doing. Sheed did a coat drive every year and was out in the community and was not promoting it, he was doing it for the cause, Dame always made sure there was a camera there. It was about him, not him being loyal to the Blazers.
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C'mon man. He does things that he believes in. Sheed should have promoted the coat drive. Maybe it might get more support.
 
blazerkor said:
Who are Jackson and Chiang? They're writers for the Miami Herald. Their sources are probably in the Heat front office. So I don't believe this shit. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying it can't be true I just find it highly dubious due to who it's coming from.
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Bro, local sports writers have NO MORE insight than people on here. Unless you are somebody like Haynes that actually builds relationships with these players, they just spout out bullshit. People hate on Haynes, but he knows these guys and talks to these guys. Nobody talks to these local writers. They get all their “juice” from asking questions in press conferences,
 
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glazeduck said:
I can't wrap my head around this perspective... We're going to have to take back salary somewhere. Simmons is almost a zero risk asset to take on (with the caveat that we're getting added value to take him)... Who cares what he is or isn't, his literal worst case scenarios are zero risk. Anything better than that, while getting paid to take him is gravy (and he still has a massive ceiling).
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There is no such thing as zero risk in my world. One player can come to a team and change the culture, either positively or negatively....regardless of their skill level or salary.
 
tykendo said:
C'mon man. He does things that he believes in. Sheed should have promoted the coat drive. Maybe it might get more support.
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Yeah things he believes in, not because of loyalty to the Blazers. The person I was responding to was trying to show that all the things he did was because of his loyalty, it had nothing to do with loyalty to the Blazers. Saying he was loyal because he was active in the community is crazy since most players are active in the community. Sheed did it because it was something he believed in, not to promote himself.
 
So wait.... Haynes is saying that Dame didn't ask out two years ago because he wanted to make sure that another black coach got hired as a head coach??????

Come on Haynes...
 
Natebishop3 said:
Haynes: "2 days before the draft, Joe Cronin called Damian Lillard and told him that they were likely keeping the pick. And from there, I know Dame didn't have any conversations with the Blazers at that point."

Pretty much what we figured.
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Strenuus said:
Yep. I remember commenting on the presser and saying that was really odd.
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Yeah I think from that point it has been speak to my agent. I doubt Dame had much to say in that meeting a week ago either he probably let Goodwin do most of the talking. I feel like Dame took using that pick as a direct shot and the last straw.
 
blazerkor said:
Obviously those players didn't make it here and YES, that is how he showed his loyalty. When year after year this team failed to put better talent around him after LaMarcus left, he showed his loyalty by not asking out... 100%. He showed his loyalty by being a helluva brand ambassador for the Blazers. He showed his loyalty by doing the kind of work he did in the community. Think back to the presser he did right before the Olympics... he felt like part of him showing loyalty was him always improving and he felt at that time the same kind of loyalty wasn't being shown by the front office.

This shit isn't between us (the fans) and Dame. Dame has shown us so much love over the years. This shit is about the Blazers front office/ownership and Dame. I do not blame Dame if he isn't worried about those people and is just worried about doing what's best for him now. The loyalty (giving it everything) was one way traffic all of that loyalty was coming from Dame with little to no reciprocity from the organization.

It sucks that we the fans who have also been loyal to Dame are kind of left out of the equation but I said this earlier: this is our hobby, this is Dame's life. So if fans of this team want to be mad at somebody be mad at Olshey and be mad at Cronin. I think the anger towards Dame is misplaced.
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Oh, seriously. The Blazers made trades and got guys he wanted. They made him the face of the franchise even when Aldridge was here. He got paid as much as anyone in the league and even is a national brand.

They put his freaking no-game cousin on the roster FOR TWO YEARS!

It's nonsense to say the team was disloyal to Dame Lillard because they thought making a trade imbalanced against them to bring in another of his buddies with no assurance that he wouldn't do the same thing or hint at leaving at the trade deadline or the next offseason or the offseason after that. THAT, friend, is Dame being disloyal: He's trying to sink the team if he stays and he's trying to sink the team if he goes. If you can't see that, you've totally lost any objectivity.
 
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