Dame asks for trade (And there it is)

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Propagandist said:
I'm wondering if the Dame situation is going to turn into the Kobe situation from yesteryear…

I’ve been swiveling around like a wind sock, but I think I’ve settled on wanting Dame to first fire his agent then reversed course and embrace this team.

I read somewhere that when Dame, Jerami, and Nurk played we were over .500. Add these new pieces, ESPECIALLY Scoot, and Shaedon looking good, Ant, freaking Thybulle. How could we not be much improved?!?
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I'd answer your question, but I'm on troll watch after saying Norman Powell is better then Keon Johnson.
 
Just thinking about the Harden news today...

I would laugh SO hard if Miami decides to trade for him.

But there again, they don't have adequate resources to meet Morey's price.

I don't think this would be adequate for the 76ers.... would it?
Hero + Martin + '28 + '30 <-> Harden

If I'm Miami, I wouldn't offer that much... but maybe they would
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
Just thinking about the Harden news today...

I would laugh SO hard if Miami decides to trade for him.

But there again, they don't have adequate resources to meet Morey's price.

I don't think this would be adequate for the 76ers.... would it?
Hero + Martin + '28 + '30 <-> Harden

If I'm Miami, I wouldn't offer that much... but maybe they would
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I do think they have easy access to the 2024 FRP by guaranteeing the 2026 FRP to OKC along with the Lakers 2025 second rounder. All of this said I don't think that Harden is what the Heat want and the Harden situation could actually accelerate Miami's acquisition of Dame. Supposedly all NBA front offices take a vacation for the first two or three weeks of August, so we might see an increase in chatter very soon and maybe an actual deal.

I definitely wouldn't mind if Harden went to the Heat because then we would see which teams in the league want Dame with "Heat or bust" being eliminated. I think then we'd see a real bidding war between several teams but I still think the Heat put the best package together for Dame and we take it.
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
Just thinking about the Harden news today...

I would laugh SO hard if Miami decides to trade for him.

But there again, they don't have adequate resources to meet Morey's price.

I don't think this would be adequate for the 76ers.... would it?
Hero + Martin + '28 + '30 <-> Harden

If I'm Miami, I wouldn't offer that much... but maybe they would
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Harden isn't demanding a trade to Miami like Dame is. Harden just might have more value to Miami since he didn't declare undying love for all things that are Heat. He will most likely go wherever he is sent being on an expiring. But who knows. He is killing his value and Phillies leverage just like Dame here in Portland.
 
Shit! This thread almost fell off the front page. We can't stand for this crap!

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What is this thread about? Carmelo?

barfo
 
BassPlaya said:
Shit! This thread almost fell off the front page. We can't stand for this crap!

Must..........get.......to..............page.....................................270...............
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Change your setting, problem solved. PAGE 54 here kid.
 
there's some fancy writer dude that posted his trade machine dealy-bob thing that sends:
Dame to Nola
CJ to Clippers
Powell + picks to Portland

And here I spent a few days trying to tell Cronin's security team that Norman Powell is good at basketball, only to get shot down with Norm is a completely useless ball player not worth anything.
 
Crickets in the media … obligatory blaming of Portland by Miami sources for not talking with Miami, though even these entitlement pieces lack effort. Dog days.

Mid-September interest for multi-teamers should briefly pick up. October will reveal who has patience and how badly Miami wants Lillard. And then we get to see team-Lillard leaks … not Goodwin … family, those close to Lillard ... I’m interested to see how this plays out and how Cronin shows his mettle …

Tobias Harris, 31 [Embiid needs Harden gone and a shot to contend]
Pascal Siakam, 29 [Toronto forwards have run their course and 3 contracts go to free agency in a year]

Wendell Carter Jr, 24 / Franz Wagner (almost) 22 [Orlando wanting to win][this larger package would move Nurkic, too, and then Little for Mo Wagner, later][Hey, it’s not Miami, but Orlando is close.]
:cheers:
 
That film for the schedule the Blazers put out gave Nas way more stage time than Dame's split second cameo in street clothes on the bench just came out....that must have been a tough watch for a guy who's used to having the keys to the city wherever he goes.
 
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riverman said:
That film for the schedule the Blazers put out gave Nas way more stage time than Dame's split second cameo in street clothes on the bench just came out....that must have been a tough watch for a guy who's used to having the keys to the city wherever he goes.
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He has to know that to put Dame on a box, then sell the box with the strong possibility of no Dame inside is a problem, yea?

I was surprised at how artfully the marketing team handled it considering the Dame STH email after the lottery.
 
riverman said:
That film for the schedule the Blazers put out gave Nas way more stage time than Dame's split second cameo in street clothes on the bench just came out....that must have been a tough watch for a guy who's used to having the keys to the city wherever he goes.
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tough to watch?

wait, isn't HE the one who demanded the trade to a team that was in the finals?
 
In the early days of the trade demand, we kept hearing about how keeping a disgruntled Dame was bad for our team and we should just move on. "We owe it to Dame." "We don't want Scoot to be burdened by all this." "The team needs to move forward with the youth movement." "How will our young guys interpret dicking around with Dame?" All that chatter has fallen by the wayside as the reality that there are no deals and there is no rush to get something done. It's just not a Seller's market in August, but it probably will be in a few months.

Dame doesn't want to wait, and the Heat don't want to wait, but the Blazers....really have no incentive to rush this once you get over the above nonsense arguments. We lost Roy, Oden and Aldridge without compensation. We're not going to lose this cornerstone player without getting everything we possibly can. Not while the aftertaste of the Gobert and AD trades still linger.

Meanwhile, I wonder what it's like being a member of the Miami Heat right now, where rumors have swirled around lots of different players in a Dame deal. For a team that just made it to the Finals, it's going to be a really weird season for them until this is resolved.

Miami is going into the season with a big "NBA Finalist" bullseye on their chests. They sell a lot of tickets when they win, and not many when they lose. It's a team built on sacrifice and chemistry and the Dame situation has to be messing with that. It's not hard to imagine them really not doing well coming out of the gate, feeling desperate, and offering more just to save the season.

We may not care about winning, but Miami definitely does. This may be the best reason to wait.
 
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mook said:
In the early days of the trade demand, we kept hearing about how keeping a disgruntled Dame was bad for our team and we should just move on. "We owe it to Dame." "We don't want Scoot to be burdened by all this." "The team needs to move forward with the youth movement." "How will our young guys interpret dicking around with Dame?" All that chatter has fallen by the wayside as the reality that there are no deals and there is no rush to get something done. It's just not a Seller's market in August, but it probably will be in a few months.

Dame doesn't want to wait, and the Heat don't want to wait, but the Blazers....really have no incentive to rush this once you get over the above nonsense arguments. We lost Roy, Oden and Aldridge without compensation. We're not going to lose this cornerstone player without getting everything we possibly can. Not while the aftertaste of the Gobert and AD trades still linger.

Meanwhile, I wonder what it's like being a member of the Miami Heat right now, where rumors have swirled around lots of different players in a Dame deal. For a team that just made it to the Finals, it's going to be a really weird season for them until this is resolved.

Miami is going into the season with a big "NBA Finalist" bullseye on their chests. They sell a lot of tickets when they win, and not many when they lose. It's a team built on sacrifice and chemistry and the Dame situation has to be messing with that. It's not hard to imagine them really not doing well coming out of the gate, feeling desperate, and offering more just to save the season.

We may not care about winning, but Miami definitely does. This may be the best reason to wait.
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Well said.
 
I'm getting fairly concerned about the status of things.

I personally don't think Dame's value is going to go up as he ages. I'm not sure how much value he actually has. How many teams even make sense to trade for Dame? The market is pretty small. Getting SOME value for Dame is better than getting NO value for Dame.

I'm concerned that the Blazers think they can just wait Dame out and keep him, which would be pretty stupid.
 
BigGameDamian said:
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I think MN would be an ideal destination for Lillard and it would make them a contender. Denver claimed MN was their toughest opponent in the playoffs and MN had two key pieces missing at that time, Mc Daniels and I think Reid, .Would like to see Towns routed to another team and MN also give us a couple FRP's.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
I think MN would be an ideal destination for Lillard and it would make them a contender. Denver claimed MN was their toughest opponent in the playoffs and MN had two key pieces missing at that time, Mc Daniels and I think Reid, .Would like to see Towns routed to another team and MN also give us a couple FRP's.
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Towns might actually fit well in Miami. What if they gave us everything we have wanted for Lillard and then we still got two FRP's from MN?
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Towns might actually fit well in Miami. What if they gave us everything we have wanted for Lillard and then we still got two FRP's from MN?
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I don't see how they would have enough outgoing salary to make a deal work without including Bam or Butler.
 
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