Dame asks for trade (And there it is)

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blazerkor said:
Not much but still
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At least Woj didn't refresh his "Dame is really old and gets paid too much" narrative. I understand the PR around devaluing Lillard's trade value. It makes the return package from Heat look amazing.

But in the overall picture of getting the best value for trading Lillard, doesn't hiding Dame's amazing skillset cause a negative influence?

I thought Blazer media would be going off on incredible games Lillard played last year. The guy averaged 37ppg through January & February! Dame busted the Rockets in the most effecient 71 game in NBA History!!

"Look how amazing this player is" would work better in Dame trade value, then "he's short and old, sucks at D, chokes in the playoffs", followed by not applying over a dozen franchise enforced tank games in weak attempts to discredit Lillard as an injury prone player.
 
blazerfan11 said:
Imagine Scoot, Sharpe/Ant, Thybulle/Rupert, Grant/Murray with a top-notch, young center gained in a Dame trade.

If Cronin could do that, he should get some kind of Harry Potter wizardry award. That would be close to scary black magic.

That is why the Blazers have to be patient. The reward could be mind-blowing.

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Anton
 
blazerfan11 said:
We can agree that Bam Adebayo and Jimmy Butler weren't going to end up in Portland. We know that.
There was no reason to rush a trade.
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Sure there is. Dame playing a second next season for Portland could cost us someone special in the draft

Bringing either Sharpe or Scoit off the bench could sour them on Portland
 
Mediocre Man said:
Sure there is. Dame playing a second next season for Portland could cost us someone special in the draft

Bringing either Sharpe or Scoit off the bench could sour them on Portland
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The someone "special" in a draft was three months ago. The 2024 draft just doesnt have that.

I'm really not worried at all about a disgruntled Dame leading this roster to a bunch of early season wins. Odd that you actually posted this.

I'm not saying having Dame start for the Blazers next year makes sense or is something I'd aim for. Better to just get a trade done if we can get useful value.

The reason to hold off doing a Dame trade the next few weeks is if we think there is more value coming back in December or at the deadline - not trying to immediately tank in October with a roster that needs zero assistance to tank.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
The someone "special" in a draft was three months ago. The 2024 draft just doesnt have that.

I'm really not worried at all about a disgruntled Dame leading this roster to a bunch of early season wins. Odd that you actually posted this.

I'm not saying having Dame start for the Blazers next year makes sense or is something I'd aim for. Better to just get a trade done if we can get useful value.

The reason to hold off doing a Dame trade the next few weeks is if we think there is more value coming back in December or at the deadline - not trying to immediately tank in October with a roster that needs zero assistance to tank.
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Drafts always produce three very good players. Teams just have to identify them. As an example;

In the 2012 Anthony Bennett draft;

2. Victor Oladipo
3. Otto Porter, Jr
10. CJ McCollum
15. Giannis
27. Rudy Gobert

Obviously this draft had a future MVP and first ballot Hall of Fame player. Unfortunately 14 teams passed on him.

Then look at the 1986 Drug/Bust class;

1. Brad Dougherty
2. Len Bias
4. Chuck Person
8. Ron Harper
11. John Salley
24. Arvydas Sabonis
27. Dennis Rodman
30. Nate McMillan
33. Kevin Duckworth
46. Jeff Hornacek
60. Drazen Petrovic

Again, teams have to do a better job scouting. The players are there. Other than Rodman, Duck and the Euro's, all of these players were at big schools and were known commodities. There are always five very good players, many that are game changers. Not every top five pick has to be a Hall of Fame level player. If Portland was to get a top five pick next season, I am happy with the career of all the above with the exception of Bias and Petrovic for obvious reasons.
 
inconceivable said:
Trail Blazers, Lillard reportedly both ready for him to come to training camp if no trade

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/trail-blazers-lillard-reportedly-both-124208426.html
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I wish there had been some attribution to the analysis portion of that "article". With statements like:
  • "Portland can talk all they want about another team jumping into the mix but that team does not exist."
  • "he's also 33 years old with four years and $216.2 million remaining on his contract. No team other than Miami has shown any interest because of that."
  • "The trade package Portland thinks it deserves for Lillard is not out there and waiting isn't going to change that."
  • "it is in their best interest to turn the page and move on to what is next. This deal could still get done before camp starts (or early into camp), which would be best for all parties"
...it really feels like this was written by Fentress. A lot of declarative opinions presented as incontrovertible fact. I despise "reporting" like this.
 
Whyachi said:
At least Woj didn't refresh his "Dame is really old and gets paid too much" narrative. I understand the PR around devaluing Lillard's trade value. It makes the return package from Heat look amazing.

But in the overall picture of getting the best value for trading Lillard, doesn't hiding Dame's amazing skillset cause a negative influence?

I thought Blazer media would be going off on incredible games Lillard played last year. The guy averaged 37ppg through January & February! Dame busted the Rockets in the most effecient 71 game in NBA History!!

"Look how amazing this player is" would work better in Dame trade value, then "he's short and old, sucks at D, chokes in the playoffs", followed by not applying over a dozen franchise enforced tank games in weak attempts to discredit Lillard as an injury prone player.
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"... but that was days ago. Since then, Lillard has missed a lot of time and hasn't been able to stay healthy."
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I wish there had been some attribution to the analysis portion of that "article". With statements like:
  • "Portland can talk all they want about another team jumping into the mix but that team does not exist."
  • "he's also 33 years old with four years and $216.2 million remaining on his contract. No team other than Miami has shown any interest because of that."
  • "The trade package Portland thinks it deserves for Lillard is not out there and waiting isn't going to change that."
  • "it is in their best interest to turn the page and move on to what is next. This deal could still get done before camp starts (or early into camp), which would be best for all parties"
...it really feels like this was written by Fentress. A lot of declarative opinions presented as incontrovertible fact. I despise "reporting" like this.
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I agree with your perspective on that article, and the crappy journalism, except the bit about 'being written by Fentress' (even though he's a disciple of crappy journalism). It has the look of an opinion piece ghost-written by Pat Riley
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I wish there had been some attribution to the analysis portion of that "article". With statements like:
  • "Portland can talk all they want about another team jumping into the mix but that team does not exist."
  • "he's also 33 years old with four years and $216.2 million remaining on his contract. No team other than Miami has shown any interest because of that."
  • "The trade package Portland thinks it deserves for Lillard is not out there and waiting isn't going to change that."
  • "it is in their best interest to turn the page and move on to what is next. This deal could still get done before camp starts (or early into camp), which would be best for all parties"
...it really feels like this was written by Fentress. A lot of declarative opinions presented as incontrovertible fact. I despise "reporting" like this.
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Fentress at this point is coming across as a troll.

I hope he gets trolled 24-7 at this point
on Twitter and play the game back at him instead of people always taking his bs bait
 
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