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Hoopguru said:
You are correct about surgeries and scar tissue issues. Ive had double hernia surgery & prostate surgery and Ive had issues with inflammation and sever cramping that will bring you to your knees. Its brought on by too much abdominal workout and lifting.
The only thing that helps is rest.
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If Steve Jobs was afraid of failing or making mistakes I wouldn't be using this IMac.
 
wizenheimer said:
I'd be surprised if surgery is recommended. I doubt his intestine is protruding from the abdominal wall or anything like that.

sure sounds like it's inflamed, so there are several types of physio-therapy that can be used. Besides that, the scar tissue from surgery on a muscle the size of the abdomen can cause as much inflammation as the injury itself. Surgeries on muscles can weaken the muscle as often a strengthen it

my uneducated hunch is if the condition was severe enough to warrant surgery, he could not have played at all over the first 20 games
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Yeah i read up on it also. No it doesn't sound like he is herniated at all. It does however state that if this injury is prolonged and recurring that the only real way to heal is through a non invasive surgical procedure that would have him out 12-16 weeks.
This injury is well documented from three years ago and last season as well as over the summer. It isn't going away. How much longer are you willing to let him try to play through it? After this year the team owes him 42 million, Then 45 million and then 48 million the year after that? Yep. Three more years after this one.
My opinion on this is very clear to me. There is no question at all what to do. Sit him down and do whatever it takes to get a 100% healthy Damian Lillard next year. From what i have read up on this situation it could very well include a surgical procedure to correct the tear. It's obviously not just s strain. A strain would not continue to hamper him and get worse as time continued to progress. When was the last time Lillard was down 10 days for this injury? Will it be 20 days next time? 30 days?
 
Hoopguru said:
You are correct about surgeries and scar tissue issues. Ive had double hernia surgery & prostate surgery and Ive had issues with inflammation and sever cramping that will bring you to your knees. Its brought on by too much abdominal workout and lifting.
The only thing that helps is rest.
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A double hernia and prostate surgery are not "Non Invasive". They are very invasive. The surgery they are describing is not through the abdominal wall and is done with lasers.
 
Fairly-Hard said:
A double hernia and prostate surgery are not "Non Invasive". They are very invasive. The surgery they are describing is not through the abdominal wall and is done with lasers.
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gotcha...I just read Wiz comments about scar tissue issues.
 
Hoopguru said:
gotcha...I just read Wiz comments about scar tissue issues.
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He's right and even more so he is also right about all surgeries come with risks. Thirdly he is right about using an alternative method might be better. I just think this has lingered way too long.
 
Here is another thing I'm finding @wizenheimer and @Hoopguru

They are saying "sometimes the very best way to treat it is with Lots of rest and strength training".

I find it hard to believe Lillard needs strength training but i would very easily believe he needs rest.
 
If the solution was rest then how was the summer not enough to heal it? Concerning.
 
Freshtown said:
If the solution was rest then how was the summer not enough to heal it? Concerning.
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Exactly. Forget his age but this dude is declining. Love dame. He’s a legend here but it’s time to move on
 
riverman said:
Hello Dennis Smith Jr....he's a solid bench pt guard in my view..protects the ball and hustles.
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I'd like to see him play his own game; not to bring the ball up like Lillard and stand out there at the top of the key with the ball. He was drafted high for his athleticism and speed. Attack every time and look for a kickout if you can't get to the basket.
 
I looked up his condition and it says rest and strengthening of the muscles around the tendinopathy area is the procedure...not surgery...it's the tendon that holds the 6 pac abs together being inflamed and without rest could tear etc........totally explains Dame's lack of lift this season on offense
 
riverman said:
I looked up his condition and it says rest and strengthening of the muscles around the tendinopathy area is the procedure...not surgery...it's the tendon that holds the 6 pac abs together being inflamed and without rest could tear etc........totally explains Dame's lack of lift this season on offense
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I must be suffering from that too.
 
Ok, and the time between olympics and the preseason was nearly 2 months. That’s not enough to heal it, but 10 days of rest now is?
 
Freshtown said:
Ok, and the time between olympics and the preseason was nearly 2 months. That’s not enough to heal it, but 10 days of rest now is?
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It was more like 5 to 6 weeks off before camp started to be honest. And I don’t think anybody says he will be “HEALED” in 10 days. It’s 10 days of rest……do you not want him taking that time off?
 
THE HCP said:
It was more like 5 to 6 weeks off before camp started to be honest. And I don’t think anybody says he will be “HEALED” in 10 days. It’s 10 days of rest……do you not want him taking that time off?
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so we agree: 6 weeks is not enough to heal it, therefore 10 days definitely isn’t going to do it.

as to the question of what do I want? The answer is simple: dame to get healthy. If that means missing the rest of the season and getting more hardcore treatment, so be it. But right now he’s on track to not make the all star team for the first time in 7 years. That’s worrisome and he needs to get back to 100%. We are not title contenders. There is no reason to only take a week off and play through it afterwards at 80% the rest of the season.
 
rest stops the inflammation from turning into a tear and strengthening the muscles around the tendon is the cure from what I read this morning....10 days can do a lot for inflammation issues....it's like tennis elbow....doesn't get better by playing more tennis...let it shrink back to normal which is what Dame is going through...
 
riverman said:
rest stops the inflammation from turning into a tear and strengthening the muscles around the tendon is the cure from what I read this morning....10 days can do a lot for inflammation issues....it's like tennis elbow....doesn't get better by playing more tennis...let it shrink back to normal which is what Dame is going through...
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interesting analogy, I have had tennis elbow twice in my 50 yrs of high level tennis, took months to heal both time, rest and NO tennis, PRP shot the second time did speed up the healing time to about 10-12 weeks
 
riverman said:
rest stops the inflammation from turning into a tear and strengthening the muscles around the tendon is the cure from what I read this morning....10 days can do a lot for inflammation issues....it's like tennis elbow....doesn't get better by playing more tennis...let it shrink back to normal which is what Dame is going through...
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Just my take and i'm no doctor but i disagree on this one. He's done the rest bit. Give him 10 days and see where they are. Let him start playing again and my bet is within a week he is right back where he is now. Maybe no more B2B's? Maybe play him every other game? Maybe play him a couple weeks and do another 10 days thing?
Point is he ain't taking a game off in the playoffs. So what's the point now?
Seriously? To what end are we playing for here this season? Sit him until he is fully healed or shut him down this year.
 
Fairly-Hard said:
Just my take and i'm no doctor but i disagree on this one. He's done the rest bit. Give him 10 days and see where they are. Let him start playing again and my bet is within a week he is right back where he is now. Maybe no more B2B's? Maybe play him every other game? Maybe play him a couple weeks and do another 10 days thing?
Point is he ain't taking a game off in the playoffs. So what's the point now?
Seriously? To what end are we playing for here this season? Sit him until he is fully healed or shut him down this year.
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What he recovered from this summer isn't what caused his recent inflammation playing the first 20 games...he's aggravated it so this is to stop it from further inflammation in my view....he'll probably deal with it off and on....that's why I compared it to tennis elbow...every tennis player has to manage that the same way...the only way is to rest and build muscle surrounding the area from what I've read..probably 2o minute ice packs several times a day. He may very well be out longer than 10 days but they can detect the problem with an MRI and see if it shrinks to normal...maybe they'll ask him to stop shooting from 36 ft as another safety precaution
 
riverman said:
What he recovered from this summer isn't what caused his recent inflammation playing the first 20 games...he's aggravated it so this is to stop it from further inflammation in my view....he'll probably deal with it off and on....that's why I compared it to tennis elbow...every tennis player has to manage that the same way...the only way is to rest and build muscle surrounding the area from what I've read..probably 2o minute ice packs several times a day. He may very well be out longer than 10 days but they can detect the problem with an MRI and see if it shrinks to normal...maybe they'll ask him to stop shooting from 36 ft as another safety precaution
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Seems fair as another way to look at it. I guess him saying he’s dealt with this for the last 4 years has me thinking it’s only getting worse because to this point he has never taken 10 days out to heal it.
 
Mr. Robot said:
smart move by the front office, dont let him play, otherwise he will tank his value even more

take for him what you can, hes done
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Man, you know there are drug rehab options that are pretty reasonable out there. Also did the reptile part of your brain Che Guevara the Baptiste part of your common sense and critical thinking? This is a plasma hot take that’s easily the dumbest thing Ive ever seen on this board just WOW!!!!
 
Idog1976 said:
Man, you know there are drug rehab options that are pretty reasonable out there. Also did the reptile part of your brain Che Guevara the Baptiste part of your common sense and critical thinking? This is a plasma hot take that’s easily the dumbest thing Ive ever seen on this board just WOW!!!!
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BRO!!! Why you gotta bump this thread right now. Almost gave me a heart attack, forgot what it was about.
 
this reeks of Kobe Bryant. let me explain....

dame gets paid... and i mean PAID... we cant afford shit for a roster (we can, the owners just dont want to) and will probably not even get to the playoffs. then Dame retires.

same thing that happened with Kobe.

mamba mentality i guess....
 
THE HCP said:
Dame IN?

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I read this article and thought it was great news. If this treatment can be effective and cortizone injections have proven to be very effective in stimulating healing in soft tissue like diseased tendons, then Dame could come back better than ever. If he's been dealing with this pain for the last three seasons while dominating the league, imagine what he might do pain free.
 
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