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SlyPokerDog said:
Not as a general rule, but it did seem appropriate to do so given the theme of the topic.

More importantly this has be asked multiple times very nicely by members of our this community not to use such terms. Does this have to become a "mods are ruining all my fun" situation? Fortunately, unfortunately, we do have female members of this community, they've asked that references to their sex not be used as insults. That seems reasonable to me. It's not something that I'm always going to be looking for but if someone asks I don't see the problem.

Also, two members of the forum have "r word" family members, they absolutely hate that term. In the past they have asked me privately to remove that from posts and I will when asked. This has happened for years. No one has been disciplined, reprimanded or banned over this. It's something that has just quietly happened in the background.
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Are you serious?

"R word?"

Why couldn't you have said mentally handicapped?
 
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JFizzleRaider said:
Thats my point. I was offended. I moved on and just thought said poster was ignorant that the word was offensive.

When i said people were vaginas, i had no ill intent. After being pointed out i realized i might have offended someone.

Its just hypocritical of people to be social justice warriors and not stick up for people that have no or minimal voice to stick up for themselves like the mentally handicap. Be consistent.
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Mentally handicapped is not the accepted politically correct phrase. In fact, calling someone handicapped can offend them.

The term now is intellectually and developmentally disabled.

http://www.globaldownsyndrome.org/about-down-syndrome/words-can-hurt/

Or as the "Global Down Syndrome Foundation, we like to take it a step further and talk about our community as “differently-abled.”
 
blue32 said:
Maybe to you. Maybe to you buddy. But I don't get offended by people using words like that. I also do not approve of censorship because a few people are a little to soft to move on, or ignore what they don't like and must feel the need to make everyone believe in their same views.
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And there you have it... as predicted, you completely missed the point.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
Sounds to me like people with a vested interest in seeing the word not used have an obligation to point out the usage. You have. Thank you.
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I don't mean to sound terse here; I see that I kind of was. But it's like Spud pointing out the sexist use of Vagina. Most people didn't even see it.
 
The battle between political correctness and faux outrage about it is getting out of hand in this country, IMO.

I'm outraged that a couple of guys are dead at the hands of cops. Again. I'm outraged that people are jumping all over these incidents without waiting to see what the facts are and how they are dealt with. Again. I think, if it could somehow be done, that trading places for a single night between a white police officer and a black guy in a parking lot would be eye-opening. For both.
 
Am I weird for not having a single word that would upset me?

I'm honestly trying to think of a word that would send me into a fit of rage.... I can't think of one.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
I don't mean to sound terse here; I see that I kind of was. But it's like Spud pointing out the sexist use of Vagina. Most people didn't even see it.
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It's capitalized now? I've always been a fan, so I'll have to make a note of that. ;)
 
blue32 said:
You may want to update the forums rules section then if you haven't already. As this list of "offensive words" may need an ever expansive section.

I find it ridiculous that they can't just move on, but that is the world we live in now. People offended at every single thing they disagree with.

Thanks for the explanation Sly. While I find the censorship truly fucked. I understand you must cater to the few.
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This is a community, I will always treat as such. I don't believe that we need any such list. But I agree with you, why can't we move on? Why this outrage?

Last month an NBA player was shot to death, I made a dark joke about it. Someone took me to task over it publicly. I could have been pissed off over being called out over it, gotten mad that they would dare get offended over something that was obviously a joke. I could have tried to make it that I'm now a victim. Or I could say sorry, that wasn't my intention, delete my post and move on.

You offended someone who is a member of this community, I know and she knows that wasn't your intention. I could have reached out to you in private and asked you to remove it yourself or I could have just erased the offending part from your post.

If I handled this wrong I am truly sorry. I'm not here to make anyone uncomfortable or be some sort of boss over what people post. My intention in removing parts of two posts was to promote healthy discussion and to get the thread back on topic.
 
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e_blazer said:
The battle between political correctness and faux outrage about it is getting out of hand in this country, IMO.
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Framing it like this basically shuts down any meaningful conversation about it.

"Political correctness" is used as a term by people who think it's not worthwhile to show some empathy and not be an asshole about the words they pick, and how they use the words.

The "faux" in faux outrage is only from the perspective of people who aren't outraged, and also think the people who are outraged should shut up about it.

Using the terminology in making an argument tells the other person "I'm about to learn ya some facts, so sit down. I'm not here to discuss shit with you." It's the written equivalent of frowning, crossing your arms, and rolling your eyes. It's an obvious signal that you're not here to listen.
 
Yo are you guys really tripping over the word retarded? My cousin who is like 30 has the mind of an 8 year old and I don't trip on that word at all. Too many people jump on words these days. If you find that offensive, you need to re evaluate. It's all about context and the way it's used. Nobody was putting down "retarded" people. I call my friends retards all the time. Shit, I even call things gay. Does that make me a homophobic person or a bigot? Well, your local Portland liberal would tell you so but my intentions are good and I don't run around putting down these people. Chill out.

Vaginas? Really? I am 24 and I really fear for the way society has come to be. No freedom of speech without being labeled something. I can't have an opinion or say the simplest words without somebody getting "triggered". Get over it. Not everybody that uses these words has some evil agenda to really hurt people. Go back to your safe rooms and jump into some bubble wrap or something, Jesus
 
Cippy91 said:
Yo are you guys really tripping over the word retarded? My cousin who is like 30 has the mind of an 8 year old and I don't trip on that word at all. Too many people jump on words these days. If you find that offensive, you need to re evaluate. It's all about context and the way it's used. Nobody was putting down "retarded" people. I call my friends retards all the time. Shit, I even call things gay. Does that make me a homophobic person or a bigot? Well, your local Portland liberal would tell you so but my intentions are good and I don't run around putting down these people. Chill out.

Vaginas? Really? I am 24 and I really fear for the way society has come to be. No freedom of speech without being labeled something. I can't have an opinion or say the simplest words without somebody getting "triggered". Get over it. Not everybody that uses these words has some evil agenda to really hurt people. Go back to your safe rooms and jump into some bubble wrap or something, Jesus
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And that was the last we heard from Cippy91 as the SJWs descended upon him with rage and vengeance in their eyes.
 
Cippy91 said:
Yo are you guys really tripping over the word retarded? My cousin who is like 30 has the mind of an 8 year old and I don't trip on that word at all. Too many people jump on words these days. If you find that offensive, you need to re evaluate. It's all about context and the way it's used. Nobody was putting down "retarded" people. I call my friends retards all the time. Shit, I even call things gay. Does that make me a homophobic person or a bigot? Well, your local Portland liberal would tell you so but my intentions are good and I don't run around putting down these people. Chill out.

Vaginas? Really? I am 24 and I really fear for the way society has come to be. No freedom of speech without being labeled something. I can't have an opinion or say the simplest words without somebody getting "triggered". Get over it. Not everybody that uses these words has some evil agenda to really hurt people. Go back to your safe rooms and jump into some bubble wrap or something, Jesus
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Apparently, Spuddzy thinks you missed the point completely too.

Heh. Whatever... Just get your flash cards of politically incorrect words handy and be prepared. Better keep one blank in case they decide to add something else too.
 
Natebishop3 said:
And that was the last we heard from Cippy91 as the SJWs descended upon him with rage and vengeance in their eyes.
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All three of us? Please. There's way more "guns and glory" folks here throwing up their hands about how thinking about other peoples' feelings is SOOOO HARRRRD!
 
BlazerCaravan said:
All three of us? Please. There's way more "guns and glory" folks here throwing up their hands about how thinking about other peoples' feelings is SOOOO HARRRRD!
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Pretty sure Crand felt a disturbance in the force when he mentioned using the word "gay." So there should be at least four of you!
 
BlazerCaravan said:
All three of us? Please. There's way more "guns and glory" folks here throwing up their hands about how thinking about other peoples' feelings is SOOOO HARRRRD!
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You are not a special snowflake. Your feelings don't mean shit in the grand scheme of life on this planet.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
Framing it like this basically shuts down any meaningful conversation about it.

"Political correctness" is used as a term by people who think it's not worthwhile to show some empathy and not be an asshole about the words they pick, and how they use the words.

The "faux" in faux outrage is only from the perspective of people who aren't outraged, and also think the people who are outraged should shut up about it.

Using the terminology in making an argument tells the other person "I'm about to learn ya some facts, so sit down. I'm not here to discuss shit with you." It's the written equivalent of frowning, crossing your arms, and rolling your eyes. It's an obvious signal that you're not here to listen.
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Hmmm. Let me uncross my arms and get my eyes back facing front.

You make a good point, but I think that the opposite is also true. First, let me say that my comment was in no way directed at Spud. I've known her on message boards for years, have met her in person, and we even went to the same high school. Years apart, but we're both South Salem Saxons. She's one of my favorite posters and I totally get why the continued use of female body parts as a cheap put down is offensive. That crap is ingrained in male speech patterns and won't change unless people point it out. All of that said, I do think that constantly digging at people for relatively innocuous slip-ups can do a disservice to getting people to actually change the way they think and act. People get resentful to be constantly reminded that they have unintentionally stepped on someone's toes when that wasn't even germane to the subject being discussed. I'm not sure where the line is between pushing to advance civil discourse and just being really annoying, but it's there somewhere.
 
Cippy91 said:
Yo are you guys really tripping over the word retarded? My cousin who is like 30 has the mind of an 8 year old and I don't trip on that word at all. Too many people jump on words these days. If you find that offensive, you need to re evaluate. It's all about context and the way it's used. Nobody was putting down "retarded" people. I call my friends retards all the time. Shit, I even call things gay. Does that make me a homophobic person or a bigot? Well, your local Portland liberal would tell you so but my intentions are good and I don't run around putting down these people. Chill out.

Vaginas? Really? I am 24 and I really fear for the way society has come to be. No freedom of speech without being labeled something. I can't have an opinion or say the simplest words without somebody getting "triggered". Get over it. Not everybody that uses these words has some evil agenda to really hurt people. Go back to your safe rooms and jump into some bubble wrap or something, Jesus
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I don't think the standard should be if it doesn't offend me then it isn't offensive to anyone else.

Why not, it doesn't bother me but I can understand why it could upset someone else?
 
I tend to have a sense of humor about everything. Words don't bother me at all. They are just words. We give them power.
 
Actually, I take it back, it annoys the shit out of me when Dviss says "white privilege."

But I wouldn't censor him or delete his post. He's entitled to his opinion.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I don't think the standard should be if it doesn't offend me then it isn't offensive to anyone else.

Why not, it doesn't bother me but I can understand why it could upset someone else?
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Everybody is different. I grew up around comedy, watching comedy. Chappelle, carlin, Pryor, hicks, burr, Louis ck, etc. I feel that people take shit way too serious when in reality nothing is that serious at all. If you get what I'm saying. These words are nothing in the grand scheme. The real issue is the constant censorship and direction of society today where everybody needs to be coddled and protected.
 
e_blazer said:
Hmmm. Let me uncross my arms and get my eyes back facing front.

You make a good point, but I think that the opposite is also true. First, let me say that my comment was in no way directed at Spud. I've known her on message boards for years, have met her in person, and we even went to the same high school. Years apart, but we're both South Salem Saxons. She's one of my favorite posters and I totally get why the continued use of female body parts as a cheap put down is offensive. That crap is ingrained in male speech patterns and won't change unless people point it out. All of that said, I do think that constantly digging at people for relatively innocuous slip-ups can do a disservice to getting people to actually change the way they think and act. People get resentful to be constantly reminded that they have unintentionally stepped on someone's toes when that wasn't even germane to the subject being discussed. I'm not sure where the line is between pushing to advance civil discourse and just being really annoying, but it's there somewhere.
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There's a line, and frankly, it needs to be crossed until people stop using the words so much. It's annoying to be reminded; it's probably because it's a little embarrassing. Taking criticism is embarrassing, and making the same mistake over and over is embarrassing, and self-worth is a fragile construct.

However, in a written format, we get to choose our words, review them, and edit them BEFORE saying anything. There's simply no excuse for using offensive language in an offensive way unless that was the intent. Getting called out for it might be embarrassing ("annoying"), but it damn well should be because there were many opportunities in the workflow to catch and eliminate that language.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Actually, I take it back, it annoys the shit out of me when Dviss says "white privilege."

But I wouldn't censor him or delete his post. He's entitled to his opinion.
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Exactly. Just opinions. Everybody has them, only the immature and insecure get upset at others opinions. You agree to disagree and move on. On another note. White priveledge isn't real. WOAH DID I JUST GIVE MY OPINION ON A VERY SENSITIVE SUBJECT?!?!? Why yes, yes I did
 
BlazerCaravan said:
There's a line, and frankly, it needs to be crossed until people stop using the words so much. It's annoying to be reminded; it's probably because it's a little embarrassing. Taking criticism is embarrassing, and making the same mistake over and over is embarrassing, and self-worth is a fragile construct.

However, in a written format, we get to choose your words, review them, and edit them BEFORE saying anything. There's simply no excuse for using offensive language in an offensive way unless that was the intent. Getting called out for it might be embarrassing ("annoying"), but it damn well should be because there were many opportunities in the workflow to catch and eliminate that language.
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Or you could just ignore the post and move on and realize not everyone needs to, has, displays the same moral outlook as you do.
 
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