Damian Lillard likes tweet that suggests the Trail Blazers should send No. 7 pick for Lu Dort

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Dude is a role player on a terrible team... that doesn't mean he's not good nor that he won't get better, but I can't see how he's a needle-mover for a bad Thunder team nor a bad Blazers team. Giving up any substantial asset(s) for him strikes me as idiocy.
 
Wade Garrett said:
Dort = DAWG.
So is Hart, so is Winslow.
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Is being a "DAWG" good?

Why have all three of those players been on some bad, bad NBA teams, and why are those bad teams so willing to dump them?

Is it coincidence that the Blazers seem to be acquiring role players from terrible teams?
 
I like Dort. In the same way that I like Josh Hart.

they’re basically the same player.
 
Ed O said:
Is being a "DAWG" good?

Why have all three of those players been on some bad, bad NBA teams, and why are those bad teams so willing to dump them?

Is it coincidence that the Blazers seem to be acquiring role players from terrible teams?
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You just don't get it. You are being illogical and don't see the big picture. Guess you're not smart enough to do so.



(Hopefully no green font is necessary on this)
 
Ed O said:
Is being a "DAWG" good?

Why have all three of those players been on some bad, bad NBA teams, and why are those bad teams so willing to dump them?

Is it coincidence that the Blazers seem to be acquiring role players from terrible teams?
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BoomChakaLaka said:
PHX will match any offer - just watch.
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I would not disagree. Letting him walk? Not an option. Too much value. Sign and trade (to where Ayton wants to go and who wants him for $$$) or keep him in the short term and trade ASAP to get salaries in line. [And Sarver is just trying to hold onto ownership after his own issues.]

Keeping him at $30 million-plus when they have CP3 ($28.4 million), Booker ($33.8), and Bridges ($20.1) for $82+ million? 2nd highest paid Sun? They pay Crowder and Payne reasonable contracts but have Cam Johnson's $$$ to pay after next year. Ayton at their #2? When was the last time Phoenix had a center who they played through? Or used well? At least Monty Williams knows the value of a really good center, but it's not their history.
 
Ed O said:
Dude is a role player on a terrible team... that doesn't mean he's not good nor that he won't get better, but I can't see how he's a needle-mover for a bad Thunder team nor a bad Blazers team. Giving up any substantial asset(s) for him strikes me as idiocy.
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Exact word I was going to use.
 
[QUOTE="HoopsFanAZ, post: 5361561, member: 30527". Ayton at their #2? When was the last time Phoenix had a center who they played through? Or used well? At least Monty Williams knows the value of a really good center, but it's not their history.[/QUOTE]

If Monty knows how to use him then that is all that counts. History is irrelevant when you change coaches.
It is like USC trying to convince a MLB recruit that USC is the best place to go because of their long history of putting MLBs in the NFL
Not really relevant unless you have the same MLB coach that coached up the others.
 
Ed O said:
Is being a "DAWG" good?

Why have all three of those players been on some bad, bad NBA teams, and why are those bad teams so willing to dump them?

Is it coincidence that the Blazers seem to be acquiring role players from terrible teams?
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"Is being a DAWG good??......"

Are eggs important to a cake?
Do guitars require guitar strings?
Do birds chirp and sing in the springtime?
Is this forum filled with shortsighted opinions who don't seem to understand the importance of eggs in a cake, strings on a guitar and the beautiful sounds of birds singing in the springtime?

Yes.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
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If Monty knows how to use him then that is all that counts. History is irrelevant when you change coaches.
It is like USC trying to convince a MLB recruit that USC is the best place to go because of their long history of putting MLBs in the NFL
Not really relevant unless you have the same MLB coach that coached up the others.
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Ayton wants to be an actual focus on the team. Nurkic wants a bigger role than he's had, but he enjoys being a playmaker for others and is good at it. Turner with IND can step out to the 3.
Ayton is great in the paint and plays at both ends. Decent at the line. BUT Booker is an all star and Bridges is all-defensive and is a 3 and D guy. CP3 gets Ayton involved -- he takes care of feeding others. But Ayton is #3 -- at best -- on their team and wants more but isn't going to get it. Monty has guys accepting their roles. Ayton isn't in that place in his career. His next team doesn't have to be Portland, but other teams can offer a bigger role to him than Phoenix can and for $30 million he needs bigger.
 
As to Phoenix, their owner, and their history, it's in their DNA. James Jones is a heckuva GM. Monty a heckuva coach. If they had Jokic or Embiid, center would be where they'd go through. That's not Ayton. He's the best center they've had since playing Amare as de facto center though he wasn't one. And when they draft (Len) or acquire (Gortat), they don’t develop and keep them; it’s not their system and I still see no evidence of that here in AZ. They couldn't pass up Ayton. They're a guard, SF oriented team.
 
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Wade Garrett said:
"Is being a DAWG good??......"

Are eggs important to a cake?
Do guitars require guitar strings?
Do birds chirp and sing in the springtime?
Is this forum filled with shortsighted opinions who don't seem to understand the importance of eggs in a cake, strings on a guitar and the beautiful sounds of birds singing in the springtime?

Yes.
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If you buy your ingredients from the dollar store it isn't going to be a very good cake.
 
HoopsFanAZ said:
I would not disagree. Letting him walk? Not an option. Too much value. Sign and trade (to where Ayton wants to go and who wants him for $$$) or keep him in the short term and trade ASAP to get salaries in line. [And Sarver is just trying to hold onto ownership after his own issues.]

Keeping him at $30 million-plus when they have CP3 ($28.4 million), Booker ($33.8), and Bridges ($20.1) for $82+ million? 2nd highest paid Sun? They pay Crowder and Payne reasonable contracts but have Cam Johnson's $$$ to pay after next year. Ayton at their #2? When was the last time Phoenix had a center who they played through? Or used well? At least Monty Williams knows the value of a really good center, but it's not their history.
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how would Nurkic fit this PHX team? Say a S&T were possible
 
Predator said:
Dort is 6’3.

TALL. LONG. ATHLETIC.

OR

FUCK OFF

- Me, if I’m Cronin
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6'2.75" barefoot with a 6'8.5" wingspan, 8'3.5" standing reach, 220 lbs. His size & athleticism are decent for a 2 guard, but the guy isn't a shooter and as such he's been very inconsistent when he's had opportunities to shine. I might be for picking him up as a FA depending on team needs and who else is available but the #7 is far more valuable then this proposal.

https://www.nbadraft.net/2019-nba-draft-combine-measurements/

STOMP
 
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beast crnjo said:
How is he better than Powell, whom we gave away for free?
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Because Powell, Roco, CJ, Nance are all garbage since they are no longer on our team.

If we bring in Dort, Grant, PJ Washington those guys will be all stars that will lead this team to contendership.

Can't believe you aren't smart enough to see that. Cronin for prez!
 
I love Dame and the thought process is right but not the Dort part -- I am not sold on him plus the team already has too many guards
 
I think Dame is just enjoying that people are suggesting talent join him. Cronin is going after bigger fish, and the market looks ripe for the taking.
 
tykendo said:
I think Dame is just enjoying that people are suggesting talent join him. Cronin is going after bigger fish, and the market looks ripe for the taking.
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That's what he has said in the past.
 
STOMP said:
Thats what I've been thinking is reasonable. Hold out, Detroit needs to move Grant and they aren't going to be good anytime soon so this fits with their timeline.

STOMP
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I have tweaked my preferences a little bit on this. If we could find a way to use our pick, the 2025 pick, Bledsoe, and the TPE to move up to #5 and draft Keegan Murray and still land Grant without giving anything else up,
I would be happy going into the season and then make whatever needed adjustments at the trade deadline.
I don't think it is enough to contend, but i think it sets us up well with youth and veteran players to go either direction at the deadline. Mortage to win now or full on youth rebuild
 
BoomChakaLaka said:
how would Nurkic fit this PHX team? Say a S&T were possible
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Phoenix for one thing has a reputation of fixing guys with histories of injuries. ...I think Nurk will fit any team in the NBA ..he's that good. I also think he'll be a Blazer when it's all said and done because you don't rest a guy for that many games tanking if you're trying to get trade value for him. His sitting out the end of the season tells me he's already commited here. Guys don't do that on contract years...they don't tank on contract years either ....Nurk knows he'll get a Norm Powell deal here. Nurk is an important piece for a team trying to contend...Dame is trying to contend.
 
riverman said:
Phoenix for one thing has a reputation of fixing guys with histories of injuries. ...I think Nurk will fit any team in the NBA ..he's that good. I also think he'll be a Blazer when it's all said and done because you don't rest a guy for that many games tanking if you're trying to get trade value for him. His sitting out the end of the season tells me he's already commited here. Guys don't do that on contract years...they don't tank on contract years either ....Nurk knows he'll get a Norm Powell deal here. Nurk is an important piece for a team trying to contend...Dame is trying to contend.
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I fully agree with this logic. I surely hope he doesn't get a 5yr/$90m deal though.
 
Tince said:
I fully agree with this logic. I surely hope he doesn't get a 5yr/$90m deal though.
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I think Ant will be the guy taking the pay cut contract...people seem to think he's going to get 25mil but I don't think he will..Norm's contract was real friendly and locks Nurk up for the Dame era....they may not do it but I don't think Clutch is going to let the Blazers lowball him this contract...it'll be his last big deal of his career more than likely and he's only 27 or so with 2 of those years off the court. It's an unpopular decision but I'd sell high on Ant and put a better defender on the court with Dame or pay Ant to be a 6 man which isn't CJ money...I'll bet Ant would jump at the chance to play for some eastern conference team closer to his home where he's got Dame's role.
 
Tince said:
I fully agree with this logic. I surely hope he doesn't get a 5yr/$90m deal though.
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Yeah, I don't think Nurk proved that he was worth his last contract. He missed more than 40% of his games and his numbers were about what I'd expect for 13M a season for a traditional 5 man. So I'm hoping the very most he gets is 4yr/61M with the third and fourth years as team options. I guess we'll see with his contract and Ant's if we're still in the business of outbidding ourselves.
 
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