Does Stotts make it through the rest of the season?

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Does Stotts make it through the rest of the season?

  • Yes

    Votes: 49 90.7%

  • No

    Votes: 5 9.3%
  • Total voters
    54
Tince said:
Thinking this Blazer team, without Nurk/CJ for a combined 60 games would be cruising into the playoffs as the 4th seed in the West would unrealistic expectations in my opinion.
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I was completely agreeing with you... this team by the grace of the Nuggets doesn't have to be in the play-in tourney. So of course a top 4 seed isn't realistic.

I will point out to you that the games we had CJ and Nurk were not very different at all from the games that we had them. In fact (and I know strength of schedule contributed) we had a better winning percentage without CJ and Nurk. .581 with, .586 without.
 
brooklynballer said:
Hopefully the fact that he “dressed up” in a suit and tie for the last regular season game was a sign that he knows he is being fired. Maybe he was expecting a salute or standing ovation for coaching his last regular season game in Portland? A guy can dream.
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You're very very likely to get your wish, I think you can rest easy.
 
blazerkor said:
I was completely agreeing with you... this team by the grace of the Nuggets doesn't have to be in the play-in tourney. So of course a top 4 seed isn't realistic.

I will point out to you that the games we had CJ and Nurk were not very different at all from the games that we had them. In fact (and I know strength of schedule contributed) we had a better winning percentage without CJ and Nurk. .581 with, .586 without.
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For sure... which is a double edge sword. I hope it's strength of schedule related. I would hate confirmation that our 2nd and 3rd best players are even less impactful than most think.
 
blazerkor said:
I was completely agreeing with you... this team by the grace of the Nuggets doesn't have to be in the play-in tourney. So of course a top 4 seed isn't realistic.

I will point out to you that the games we had CJ and Nurk were not very different at all from the games that we had them. In fact (and I know strength of schedule contributed) we had a better winning percentage without CJ and Nurk. .581 with, .586 without.
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and that doesn't account for the CJ/Nurk games also having Powell

but Blazers DNA hasn't changed in 6 years: how goes Dame is how goes the Blazers
 
Maybe he'll get fired before the post-season starts? It's possible, right?
 
blazerkor said:
I just want to remind everyone that Stotts is the coach (I don't give a shit about strength of schedule) who couldn't get a better winning percentage out of a team with CJ and Nurk than he did without them. That might speak to the way Neil has constructed the roster poorly but it is for sure still a referendum on Terry's poor coaching.
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Nurkic was just coming into his own and CJ was dominating when they got hurt. Then Terry's GOOD coaching kept things afloat. When Nurk and CJ returned, it took time for them to find their footing and when you play guys who aren't on their game, your going to lose games. Finally, those two guys get going and Stotts coaches team to 10-2 finish. Stotts never got down, always stayed positive, and kept his team together when it looked like it would fall apart.
 
brooklynballer said:
Hopefully the fact that he “dressed up” in a suit and tie for the last regular season game was a sign that he knows he is being fired. Maybe he was expecting a salute or standing ovation for coaching his last regular season game in Portland? A guy can dream.
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The coaches wore suits because it was Fan Appreciation Night.
 
Tince said:
I can only imagine if Stotts got fired after the losing streak how many people would be certain this 10-2 finish was proof he was holding us back. Any response saying we would've finished 10-2 with him anyway would've been dismissed so quickly.
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Yeah, but then we got a shit ton of injury luck. Funny how you others like you only acknowledge injuries when it fits your narrative.
 
THE HCP said:
Have a weird feeling CC that this 10-2 run and us pushing the Nuggets to 6 games, might not only be enough to keep his job, but...... maybe a contract extension. Think that is a possibility? Maybe this forum hates him WAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY more than the Blazers' brass?
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Maybe
 
KSF-ERIC said:
Nurkic was just coming into his own and CJ was dominating when they got hurt. Then Terry's GOOD coaching kept things afloat. When Nurk and CJ returned, it took time for them to find their footing and when you play guys who aren't on their game, your going to lose games. Finally, those two guys get going and Stotts coaches team to 10-2 finish. Stotts never got down, always stayed positive, and kept his team together when it looked like it would fall apart.
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I love how people will say shit like this but never explain one basketball thing Stotts coached well. It's just "He stayed positive!"

The Blazers won 13 in a row late in the season in 2018 before getting swept because Stotts' deficiencies handling the trap. Now yall acting like 10-2 proves something, and you'll probably act like beating Denver proves something. Guess what, it doesnt. Nobody ever said this team was incapable of going on a hot regular season stretch. Nobody ever said we were incapable of beating a team like the Nuggets either.

If we played the Clippers or healthy Lakers and Stotts coached the playoffs like he has for years, were losing in 4 or 5 and have no chance at winning. That's the whole point. That's why we need someone new. But a lot of pro-Stotts people are ignoring the context behind the arguments for a new coach in order to make them look worse. Its silly.
 
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BonesJones said:
Yeah, but then we got a shit ton of injury luck. Funny how you others like you only acknowledge injuries when it fits your narrative.
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Is it equally as funny when the opposite is true?

I think injuries are a reason for success or lack there of. I'm not on the "injures aren't an excuse" train. But if I'm talking to someone who is on that train, then they can't bring them up and be taken seriously.
 
Tince said:
Is it equally as funny when the opposite is true?

I think injuries are a reason for success or lack there of. I'm not on the "injures aren't an excuse" train. But if I'm talking to someone who is on that train, then they can't bring them up and be taken seriously.
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I've never said injuries dont matter. Apparently you struggle with proper context.

Saying "This team doesnt have to always run deep scheme because of injuries" isn't saying that injuries dont matter.

Saying "This team should be moving the ball better than worst in the league even with injuries" isn't saying that injuries dont matter.

Saying "theres sets that the Blazers should be running that they don't even with injuries" isn't saying that injuries dont matter.
 
BonesJones said:
I've never said injuries dont matter. Apparently you struggle with proper context.

Saying "This team doesnt have to always run deep scheme because of injuries" isn't saying that injuries dont matter.

Saying "This team should be moving the ball better than worst in the league even with injuries" isn't saying that injuries dont matter.

Saying "theres sets that the Blazers should be running that they don't even with injuries" isn't saying that injuries dont matter.
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1) I wasn't talking to you or about you when I made my original comment, so I think you're missing proper context.
2) I don't know who you're quoting, but it wasn't me obviously.
3) Whoever is saying those things, can say them, but saying it doesn't mean anything.

If you think injuries matter (both good and bad), then it's just another thing you and I agree on, which is always worth celebrating!
 
A lot speculation in this forum but there just don't like the guy as a coach and some does. But we don't know what they work on in practice and if they work on against the trap we don't know. Maybe the players execution just bad in games. No I am not big fan of Stotts due to to many head scratchers at the end games decisions making that had results in losses. Plus his defense scheme just don't work for me due he doesn't change up on defense scheme during the games. Plus Stotts is pretty predictable on both side of the floor. But remember he just like any other job the man in charge going to get the credit with the wind and loses. He got another winning record under him and making the playoffs 8 straight years and 10-2 at the most crucial time of the year and the one thing that was going to get him fire was the defense and that improve in that stretch that right enough ammunition for olshey throw at Jody to retain him as the head coach but will it be enough I say it's 50 percent chance he be back. I would say if he gets in the 2nd round he will be retain if knock off the 1st I will give him 50 percent he will be retain. We don't know nothing about Jody maybe she just don't like changes maybe she will leave it up with the basketball mind and that will be olshey.
 
Stotts is a great coach, I don't care who hates him....he trusts his players to execute the game plan and if they don't, he doesn't get all pissed off at them...he's not that emo guy in the lockerroom...as to what good basketball things Terry does...people who hate him aren't going to highlight his strengths....when he started here I thought his timeouts were questionable....over the last few years he's cleaned that up.....he gives his teams a chance to win most games we play if they execute....I understand that some talking heads have built a culture around Stotts being a bad coach. To those guys I don't need to argue about why I have so much respect for Terry. I hope he's here for a long time. So does Dame. Go Blazers. Terry gives all his players a chance to earn court time....he also let's guys have a bad shooting night without throwing them under the bus. He coaches at the practice facility and now the media doesn't even have a clue about what goes on there....I know we're better now than we were with Whiteside and Bazemore......I don't think there's a better coach in the league at adapting to roster changes and injuries....I hope we win it all this season and if we don't, it won't be because of our coach. Last night I listened to the Raptors exit interviews with Gary Trent Jr and man do they have intelligent, polite, respectful media beat reporters who to the person thank the players and coach every post game.....our media post game interviewers are not very good....Quick is baiting dysfunction everytime he speaks...people who don't like Stotts won't like any players coach...those coaches let players enjoy playing basketball and don't overreact when times are tough. We have the best lockerroom culture in the NBA....maybe in all pro sports.
 
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we're all guilty of recency bias I guess

lots of talk about the 10-2 finish, as there should be. Not so much talk about the fact that coming into the Denver game, Portland was 11-11 over their last 22 games. And all of those games were in a stretch when CJ, Nurkic, and Powell were playing. Portland was 14-12 over the last third of the season. Blazers this season finished with only the 5th best winning percentage of the Stolshey era. 4 seasons with a better percentage, 4 seasons with a worse percentage.

over the 9 seasons of Stolshey, Portland has averaged 45.7 wins (shortened seasons normalized to 82). Blazers have averaged a 2-5 record in the playoffs with no wins past the 2nd round.

some think that's a great record; several others are fine with it; many other aren't. I'm an aren't, and personally, I don't think anything short of a finals appearance this year will move me away from that perspective
 
riverman said:
Stotts is a great coach, I don't care who hates him....he trusts his players to execute the game plan and if they don't, he doesn't get all pissed off at them...he's not that emo guy in the lockerroom...as to what good basketball things Terry does...people who hate him aren't going to highlight his strengths....when he started here I thought his timeouts were questionable....over the last few years he's cleaned that up.....he gives his teams a chance to win most games we play if they execute....I understand that some talking heads have built a culture around Stotts being a bad coach. To those guys I don't need to argue about why I have so much respect for Terry. I hope he's here for a long time. So does Dame. Go Blazers. Terry gives all his players a chance to earn court time....he also let's guys have a bad shooting night without throwing them under the bus. He coaches at the practice facility and now the media doesn't even have a clue about what goes on there....I know we're better now than we were with Whiteside and Bazemore......I don't think there's a better coach in the league at adapting to roster changes and injuries....I hope we win it all this season and if we don't, it won't be because of our coach. Last night I listened to the Raptors exit interviews with Gary Trent Jr and man do they have intelligent, polite, respectful media beat reporters who to the person thank the players and coach every post game.....our media post game interviewers are not very good....Quick is baiting dysfunction everytime he speaks...people who don't like Stotts won't like any players coach...those coaches let players enjoy playing basketball and don't overreact when times are tough. We have the best lockerroom culture in the NBA....maybe in all pro sports.
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Bwahahaha. Keep on, keepin’ on @riverman.
 
Tince said:
I can only imagine if Stotts got fired after the losing streak how many people would be certain this 10-2 finish was proof he was holding us back. Any response saying we would've finished 10-2 with him anyway would've been dismissed so quickly.
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Because by all accounts, it was Dame who finally righted the ship. Nowhere in any of that does it say that Stotts did a damn thing to turn things around. He's a passenger on this, just like the rest of us. If Dame hadn't owned up and taken accountability, we finish the season badly and are most likely in the play-in.
 
Someone please tell me one win out of that final 10-2 run that you're really really proud of. Which win was truly impressive and told you that we have a good shot at winning in the playoffs.
 
riverman said:
Stotts is a great coach
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Name some other great coaches by your definition. I want to know who Stotts ranks up with. Is Pop a great coach? Is Phil Jackson a great coach? If Stotts is great with no championships and no conference finals wins, how would you describe the coaches who won multiple championships?
 
James lamphear said:
A lot speculation in this forum but there just don't like the guy as a coach and some does. But we don't know what they work on in practice and if they work on against the trap we don't know. Maybe the players execution just bad in games. No I am not big fan of Stotts due to to many head scratchers at the end games decisions making that had results in losses. Plus his defense scheme just don't work for me due he doesn't change up on defense scheme during the games. Plus Stotts is pretty predictable on both side of the floor. But remember he just like any other job the man in charge going to get the credit with the wind and loses. He got another winning record under him and making the playoffs 8 straight years and 10-2 at the most crucial time of the year and the one thing that was going to get him fire was the defense and that improve in that stretch that right enough ammunition for olshey throw at Jody to retain him as the head coach but will it be enough I say it's 50 percent chance he be back. I would say if he gets in the 2nd round he will be retain if knock off the 1st I will give him 50 percent he will be retain. We don't know nothing about Jody maybe she just don't like changes maybe she will leave it up with the basketball mind and that will be olshey.
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If they work on it during practice, but are that poor at executing in games - then either they are practicing the wrong things or not practicing effectively.... Either way, that's still a poor reflection on the coach.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Someone please tell me one win out of that final 10-2 run that you're really really proud of. Which win was truly impressive and told you that we have a good shot at winning in the playoffs.
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I root for my favorite team to win. Regardless of opponent, situation, weather or time of day. I’m proud of ALL 10. All wins impress me. I didn’t think this team was going to win it all preseason let alone now. Just enjoyed my favorite team winning 12 more than they lost. I’d have to go look, but I think I said 40+ wins. Right on track.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Because by all accounts, it was Dame who finally righted the ship. Nowhere in any of that does it say that Stotts did a damn thing to turn things around. He's a passenger on this, just like the rest of us. If Dame hadn't owned up and taken accountability, we finish the season badly and are most likely in the play-in.
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I do think you're jumping to conclusions to support your narrative. Stotts (like many coaches) has always taken the public stance that he's not the reason for wins or losses. If you want to say it's the players/Dame who deserve all the credit for winning as well, that's fine, but it would only be consistent to place all the blame on the players/Dame when things aren't going well.

To my knowledge, none of us have access to the inner workings of the Blazers. If we are to take every word coming out of a press conference as the truth, then we also have to accept the comments made this season by Blazer players either crediting the staff for success or the time Nurk said it was on the players to fix, not the coaches.
 
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