End of season interviews

[BonesJones]

Huh?

first, i did provide something i think he should be judged on and in my opinion he completely succeeded.

There is one person left on this roster who was here two years ago.
And we played the most rookies ever in the history of the nba this year.
Judge all you want. I wont take it serious and it will lower my respect of your opinions, if you think he should be judged on all aspects.
Sorry bro.

This post is off base on more than one front.

You can still evaluate a coach in some aspects even when they have a young roster and injuries. You seem to think they shouldnt be evaluatedat all because theyve been dealt a tougher hand. Thats silly.

 

[illmatic99]

There are still things you can evaluate Chauncey on with all those variables being what they were. You seem to think Chauncey shouldn't be evaluated at all, to the point where he can't even be expected to actually coach because of "different lineups".

Three years in and the best thing you can say about Chauncey is "It's unfair to evaluate him whatsoever!".

Joe is similarly getting yet another pass.

And before people misconstrue this yet again, it's not about tanking and losing.

It's about tanking while having multiple high paid vets on the roster, without a clear idea of where this team is going. If you want to go full youth movement, get rid of Grant, Thybulle, Brog, etc. Why did you not trade them, only to sit them with fake injuries AGAIN, while letting them collect dust, if you want to win?

If you want to go for the play in, then why the fuck did you trade Hart for a pick?

Why did you let Dame get to a position where he has to ask out?

Why did you give Grant and Thybulle extensions if you are so far away from winning?

Now we hear a report that he aspires for us to be the 11th seed Rockets after preaching to us for years about wanting to "win big." For fucks sake.

It's contradictory moves again and again and again. Just pick a fucking lane and stick to it. It's a sad time when i sorta wish we were the Wizards or Pistons instead.

And yes this IS depressing. It's sad. For the third straight year, i had to watch our post all star games with 0 hope or excitement. I can't fucking stand it. I am shocked at how few others seem to be OK with this.

 

[oldfisherman]

Sorry. Enough negativity in my life right now. Come here for entertainment and read more negativity over a game of entertainment…
Sometimes those folks need to hear an outside perspective, but i get it.

Are you ok?

I've sensed for some time you had something bad going on, outside of this forum.

If you need anything, or, just need someone to talk to, send me a pm. I'll make all the time you need.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

The "he got the young players playing hard for 48 minutes" thing isn't even true, but it's also a very low bar.

Then I dont think we are watching the same games. We shall have to agree to disagree if you don't think the players gave him maximum effort. Speaking of the young players. Not the vets who had to tank.

 

[BonesJones]

Joe is similarly getting yet another pass.

And before people misconstrue this yet again, it's not about tanking and losing.

It's about tanking while having multiple high paid vets on the roster, without a clear idea of where this team is going. If you want to go full youth movement, get rid of Grant, Thybulle, Brog, etc. Why did you not trade them, only to sit them with fake injuries AGAIN, while letting them collect dust, if you want to win?

If you want to go for the play in, then why the fuck did you trade Hart for a pick?

Why did you let Dame get to a position where he has to ask out?

Now we hear a report that he aspires for us to be the 11th seed Rockets after preaching to us for years about wanting to "win big." For fucks sake.

It's contradictory moves again and again and again. Just pick a fucking lane and stick to it. It's a sad time when i sorta wish we were the Wizards or Pistons instead.

And yes this IS depressing. It's sad. For the third straight year, i had to watch our post all star games with 0 hope or excitement. I can't fucking stand it. I am shocked at how few others seem to be OK with this.

He gets the "rebuild" excuse made for him but has he ever used the word "rebuild"? I'm okay with rebuilding if he fully commits to it, but they don't want to do that.

I share your frustrations in full. It sucks.

 

[BonesJones]

Then I dont think we are watching the same games. We shall have to agree to disagree if you don't think the players gave him maximum effort. Speaking of the young players. Not the vets who had to tank.

I can give you numerous clips of Scoot lightly jogging back on defense if you want.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

Are you ok?

I've sensed for same time you had something bad going on, outside of this forum.

If you need anything, or, just need someone to talk to, send me a pm. I'll make all the time you need.

Thanks. Much appreciated. I guess i should have known better than to think i could clear my mind with some Blazer read and input.
Some people here are more negative than anything in real life and im dealing with a shocking death in the family.
Im good though. Thanks for asking. But recent days has sure shed a light on what to prioritize in life and being continually negative over a game of entertainment is not one of them. I honestly don't see or understand how some people can come on here day in and day out and flood the forum with such negativity.

 

[illmatic99]

He gets the "rebuild" excuse made for him but has he ever used the word "rebuild"? I'm okay with rebuilding if he fully commits to it, but they don't want to do that.

I share your frustrations in full. It sucks.

I genuinely tell you that I would be willing to sit through another 3 years of winning 25 games, and with full excitement if it meant we had a clear vision. I love watching young teams grow and learn how to win.

What we have instead is a mish mash of pieces on the roster and leadership without clear goals.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

You can still evaluate a coach in some aspects even when they have a young roster and injuries. You seem to think they shouldnt be evaluatedat all because theyve been dealt a tougher hand. Thats silly.

what am i missing T?
Twice now i have said something i think is worthy of evaluation and twice you have twisted my words into meaning he shouldn't be evaluated at all….

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

I can give you numerous clips of Scoot lightly jogging back on defense if you want.

im betting for every clip you provide i could show 10+ of the opposite. Also playing 40 minutes a game will do that.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Come on ping pong balls!

No shame in taking a little break from caring about the team. I've done it while we were stuck in purgatory and we're a treadmill team that realistically was a play in team at best.

I'm excited for the offseason to see how the pieces move. Fingers crossed for one more crappy season.

 

[BonesJones]

im betting for every clip you provide i could show 10+ of the opposite. Also playing 40 minutes a game will do that.

I really don't think you could.

Getting young players to play hard most of the time shouldn't be the top praise for a coach after three years.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

I really don't think you could.

Getting young players to play hard most of the time shouldn't be the top praise for a coach after three years.

I think I could.

Context matters.
After three years, the team has changed GM’s, overhauled the roster and likely had more injuries than any other team in a three year span.

Yes, getting players to play hard when actively and knowingly tanking is no easy task.
especially on defense.

This would be like me judging an employee when they had come on board, having to learn a system, force a new system on them within a year and then hire a bunch of College kids with no experience to work around said employee. Said employee is going to have a bumpy ride. Information flow not up to par, known responsibilities unclear, etc.
There is no way to accurately assess the employee with an evolving situation like that. Other than their perseverance and ability to adapt.
I think Billups has adapted adequately aNd has the college kids working hard at learning the new system.
To me, that's all i can ask for at the moment.
Realisitc expectations to real situations.

 

[BonesJones]

I think I could.

Context matters.
After three years, the team has changed GM’s, overhauled the roster and likely had more injuries than any other team in a three year span.

Yes, getting players to play hard when actively and knowingly tanking is no easy task.
especially on defense.

This would be like me judging an employee when they had come on board, having to learn a system, force a new system on them within a year and then hire a bunch of College kids with no experience to work around said employee. Said employee is going to have a bumpy ride. Information flow not up to par, known responsibilities unclear, etc.
There is no way to accurately assess the employee with an evolving situation like that. Other than their perseverance and ability to adapt.
I think Billups has adapted adequately aNd has the college kids working hard at learning the new system.
To me, that's all i can ask for at the moment.
Realisitc expectations to real situations.

Those college kids are supposed to improve as a group. Normally there's some standard that's trying to be established that you see signs of.

What's the Blazers identity on either end of the floor that they're building for? Obviously they're not going to execute it all that well due to a lack of experience, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't show some consistency or progress towards playing a certain way. At the start of the season Chauncey was preaching being aggressive defensively. At the end of the season he ran primarily drop scheme. At the start of the season he preached playing fast (and their youth is capable of playing fast). They had the 20th fastest pace. They preached playing as a team this season, yet Chauncey will spam inefficient Jerami Grant isos when he's much more efficient as an off-ball player. The Blazers ranked LAST in their percentage of field goals assisted (and rebuilding teams such as San Antonio and Toronto were 1st and 2nd). Nobody's expecting them to excel due to all the reasons you stated. But what I expect is for them to show some semblance of progressing towards the identity that Chauncey tries to preach.

 

[Tince]

In the last 10 years of exit-interviews, are there even 3 examples of meaningful information that was shared?

These seem like nothing-burgers to me.

 

[Natebishop3]

Word salad with no clear message. Again.

Not sure why i put myself through this bullshit year in and year out.

When he has done that in the past he has gotten busted for it. There's no reason for him to say anything of substance now.

 

[Tince]

When he has done that in the past he has gotten busted for it. There's no reason for him to say anything of substance now.

We want these people to be honest, until they are, then we want to rip them, then they're not forthcoming, and we want to rip them for that.

I could do without the exit-interviews at this point.

 

[Hoopguru]

For years they just wrote about them in the paper.
Now it has to be broadcasted on the net.....not necessary, it should be between employee and employer anyway. A Brief write up should be good enough.

The best thing Joe said today was "my job is to find replacements for ya" so go to work.

 

[BonesJones]

When he has done that in the past he has gotten busted for it. There's no reason for him to say anything of substance now.

The problem when he said something of substance is he did nothing of substance to back up what he said. He did nothing. He said stuff he didn't mean.

So that excuses him saying nothing now?

 

[BonesJones]

We want these people to be honest, until they are, then we want to rip them, then they're not forthcoming, and we want to rip them for that.

I could do without the exit-interviews at this point.

You lost me at "until they are".

 

[Tince]

You lost me at "until they are".

Not the first time I've lost you and it won't be the last!

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

Those college kids are supposed to improve as a group. Normally there's some standard that's trying to be established that you see signs of.

What's the Blazers identity on either end of the floor that they're building for? Obviously they're not going to execute it all that well due to a lack of experience, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't show some consistency or progress towards playing a certain way. At the start of the season Chauncey was preaching being aggressive defensively. At the end of the season he ran primarily drop scheme. At the start of the season he preached playing fast (and their youth is capable of playing fast). They had the 20th fastest pace. They preached playing as a team this season, yet Chauncey will spam inefficient Jerami Grant isos when he's much more efficient as an off-ball player. The Blazers ranked LAST in their percentage of field goals assisted (and rebuilding teams such as San Antonio and Toronto were 1st and 2nd). Nobody's expecting them to excel due to all the reasons you stated. But what I expect is for them to show some semblance of progressing towards the identity that Chauncey tries to preach.

Did you not see improvement from almost every young player? I did. Camara improved over the season
Walker improved alot
Scoot improved alot
Murray improved some as did Rupert.

but they are still just college kids who need a couple season under them. But if you didn't see the defensive grit and improvement in them? I dont know what you are watching.

 

[Strenuus]

How did anyone even care this season? I checked out around game 2. Lol.

Until they care, I won't care. This is the first year I didn't care, and it felt kinda good.

It's a weird fucking day when Neil cared more about this team than whatever jokers we got now.

 

[Predator]

Hilarious how people call Olshey a snake oil salesmen but let Cronin off the hook

Cronin is a disaster of epic proportions, closing in on being worse than Neil

 

[Predator]

Refer to the epic disaster thread for more info but the guy doesn’t even do the things he says he is trying to do.

if we somehow draft another guard this year, I might go nuclear

 

[THE HCP]

In the last 10 years of exit-interviews, are there even 3 examples of meaningful information that was shared?

These seem like nothing-burgers to me.

I can think of only 3 examples of meaningful information in the past 16 years on THIS FORUM!

 

[Tince]

I can think of only 3 examples of meaningful information in the past 16 years on THIS FORUM!

Hold on to your shorts!

 

[kjironman1]

The team has been actively trying to lose games for extended stretches over the last three seasons and there are posts in this thread actually questioning Chauncey Billups?
The guy should get a medal for putting up with it. Would not blame him for saying he’s had enough.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

The team has been actively trying to lose games for extended stretches over the last three seasons and there are posts in this thread actually questioning Chauncey Billups?
The guy should get a medal for putting up with it. Would not blame him for saying he’s had enough.

Agreed. He's done excellent keeping players focused and working hard during this time.

Blazers lack of success is 100% from the lack of talent on the roster, which is solely the GM.

That doesn't mean Billups is an elite coach or anything. But no coach could have done anything meaningfully better with this group, many coaches would've been much worse.

 

[julius]

Agreed. He's done excellent keeping players focused and working hard during this time.

Blazers lack of success is 100% from the lack of talent on the roster, which is solely the GM.

That doesn't mean Billups is an elite coach or anything. But no coach could have done anything meaningfully better with this group, many coaches would've been much worse.

They have talent, they don't have experience.