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Predator said:
Hilarious how people call Olshey a snake oil salesmen but let Cronin off the hook

Cronin is a disaster of epic proportions, closing in on being worse than Neil
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In the playoffs 8 of 9 years. Biggest misstep was the 2017 draft, followed by the 2016 free agency. But we at least were relevant and had some sort of consistency in the plan, regardless how flawed it was.
 
The more people argue about this, the more it shows people don't have the coping skills to deal with an actual rebuild.

What exactly did Neil's work here get the team? No titles, one embarrassing trip to the conference finals, and an empty cupboard and a massively flawed roster, no g-league team ever and riding the coattails of a superstar to the point where they had no other choice but to trade him (realistically).

Joe isn't perfect, but had they stayed with Dame (and it's unlikely they would've been able to upgrade the roster outside of lucking into Wemby), the long term health of the franchise would be shit.

All thanks to a soap opera star.
 
wizenheimer said:
correct...

* they have 21 win talent with current experience
* they have 37 win talent with future experience

science or science fiction?
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good to know you already know what their talent is going to be. Can I have the lottery numbers for the next billion dollar Powerball?
 
kjironman1 said:
The team has been actively trying to lose games for extended stretches over the last three seasons and there are posts in this thread actually questioning Chauncey Billups?
The guy should get a medal for putting up with it. Would not blame him for saying he’s had enough.
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Oh, don't tease me...
 
BonesJones said:
The problem when he said something of substance is he did nothing of substance to back up what he said. He did nothing. He said stuff he didn't mean.

So that excuses him saying nothing now?
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This is where you and I have always disagreed. I don't think he did nothing. I think he failed to do what he said he would do. Does that mean he didn't try? No.

But I guess it just depends on whether you believe that Joe sand bagged to get rid of Dame. And if that's the case, why? What was the ultimate motivation? Put his own stamp on the team?
 
BonesJones said:
Those college kids are supposed to improve as a group. Normally there's some standard that's trying to be established that you see signs of.

What's the Blazers identity on either end of the floor that they're building for? Obviously they're not going to execute it all that well due to a lack of experience, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't show some consistency or progress towards playing a certain way. At the start of the season Chauncey was preaching being aggressive defensively. At the end of the season he ran primarily drop scheme. At the start of the season he preached playing fast (and their youth is capable of playing fast). They had the 20th fastest pace. They preached playing as a team this season, yet Chauncey will spam inefficient Jerami Grant isos when he's much more efficient as an off-ball player. The Blazers ranked LAST in their percentage of field goals assisted (and rebuilding teams such as San Antonio and Toronto were 1st and 2nd). Nobody's expecting them to excel due to all the reasons you stated. But what I expect is for them to show some semblance of progressing towards the identity that Chauncey tries to preach.
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I think Billups could have learned from Pops. Billups focused on trying to win games all the way through (although his attempts were mis-guided at times) and improving individuals' play (which I think he did a good job of).. Pops focused on building a team identity, teaching a system on defense and offense.. and ensuring that players played within that system. He did such a good job that by the end of the season the team started beating good opponents, even when he himself probably didn't care. Yes, of course he had Wemby, but even without Sochan, Vassel and Keldon Johnson, they kept playing at a high level.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
I think Billups could have learned from Pops. Billups focused on trying to win games all the way through (although his attempts were mis-guided at times) and improving individuals' play (which I think he did a good job of).. Pops focused on building a team identity, teaching a system on defense and offense.. and ensuring that players played within that system. He did such a good job that by the end of the season the team started beating good opponents, even when he himself probably didn't care. Yes, of course he had Wemby, but even without Sochan, Vassel and Keldon Johnson, they kept playing at a high level.
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Of course, this is somewhat understandable. Pops never has to worrry about job security and Billups does. Or maybe it's more about Billups having to prove something to himself.
 
kjironman1 said:
Because obviously you know he isn't a good coach and there is someone who would have done better.
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I'm certainly prepared to gamble on us regretting firing Chauncey. I feel pretty safe making that bet.
 
my takeout

our nobody players played better than our known players in most cases.
players i had fairly high hopes for were either injured or struggled.
players i knew and still know nothing about seem to have taken the opportunity and ran with it.
we're still weak and unproven, but there is also some potential gems in the mix that we didnt expect.

if we keep middling, i dont see any point in keeping ant etc, just move for picks and properly embrace the rebuild.
i think keeping a guy like brogdon is a good plan, he seems like a good leader and older voice for the guys.

having the 16th highest salary this season, n netting out like this is woeful.
ayton - 32m
grant 27m
ant 24m
our top 3 paid players lineup and inconsistent time on court as well.

I'm glad we got to discover some other potential up n comers, but we need to shed the albatrosses around our neck.

i watched approx 2 games overall. lots of highlight packages, but there werent many highlights in them.

im also even less sure that billups is the guy for this team.
 
Last year, our GM said that we got "3 lottery-level picks" (Scoot, Murray, Rupert). Unsurprisingly, the 2 that weren't actually lottery picks, didn't play like they were.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
Last year, our GM said that we got "3 lottery-level picks" (Scoot, Murray, Rupert). Unsurprisingly, the 2 that weren't actually lottery picks, didn't play like they were.
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Well..... just because a player is a lottery pick doesn't mean that they are going to contribute right away. Sometimes it's just about drafting a player who has the potential to be a star.

Case in point:

Giannis' rookie season
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Natebishop3 said:
Well..... just because a player is a lottery pick doesn't mean that they are going to contribute right away. Sometimes it's just about drafting a player who has the potential to be a star.

Case in point:

Giannis' rookie season
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7th in the rookie of the year voting. Certainly better than any of our rookies this year.
 
wizenheimer said:
what wasn't garbage was 6'11 and uber-athletic
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So what you're saying is.... "just because a player is a lottery pick doesn't mean that they are going to contribute right away. Sometimes it's just about drafting a player who has the potential to be a star."

Because that's what I said.
 
julius said:
They have talent, they don't have experience.
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Have talent compared to what? This is one of the least talented Blazers rosters since I've followed the team in the late 80s. I'd rank it below 25-28 other NBA franchises.
 
i hear some fans wondering why Grant didn't make it to the exit interviews. We haven't heard from Portland's star forward since he dropped 49 in the Pistons Moda Center Miracle.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I'm certainly prepared to gamble on us regretting firing Chauncey. I feel pretty safe making that bet.
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Yeah... I seem to remember this same statement being made only a few short years ago when the Blazers were making the playoffs every year.
Change just for the sake of change might not be in our best interest.
 
kjironman1 said:
Yeah... I seem to remember this same statement being made only a few short years ago when the Blazers were making the playoffs every year.
Change just for the sake of change might not be in our best interest.
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it's amazing to me how sure of themselves some talking heads around here can be when they state talent wins in the nba, but then think a different coach could do more with the same lack of talent. its like, how does one not see the obvious conflict there?

coach is not the issue. Lack of talent or lack of experience in potential talent is the issue.
How about focusing on the coach when its clear he has talent to win?
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
it's amazing to me how sure of themselves some talking heads around here can be when they state talent wins in the nba, but then think a different coach could do more with the same lack of talent. its like, how does one not see the complete conflict there?
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I just take the "Walk a mile in their shoes" approach. In this case Billups is doing what he has been told to do.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Have talent compared to what? This is one of the least talented Blazers rosters since I've followed the team in the late 80s. I'd rank it below 25-28 other NBA franchises.
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You clearly have blocked those Ha Seung Jin teams from your memory
 
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