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Scalma said:
Gimme Hartenstein already.
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Is he on a summer league team or just sitting out there in free agency? He declined his 1.8 MIL from Cleveland to be a free agent. Isn't that more than the minimum he will get now? Seems he could make more money going overseas. I like Hartenstein though. We could use another big.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
He declined his 1.8 MIL from Cleveland to be a free agent. Isn't that more than the minimum he will get now? Seems he could make more money going overseas.
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Yeah, I doubt he could get more in Europe though. Average salary is around 500K there. Maybe China, I’m not as familiar with their wages.
 
Scalma said:
Yeah, I doubt he could get more in Europe though. Average salary is around 500K there. Maybe China, I’m not as familiar with their wages.
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China is no more, they don't allow foreigners this year.

Maybe Hartenstein could find 1M net pay in Europe but i think he wants to stay in the league.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
Is he on a summer league team or just sitting out there in free agency? He declined his 1.8 MIL from Cleveland to be a free agent. Isn't that more than the minimum he will get now? Seems he could make more money going overseas. I like Hartenstein though. We could use another big.
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it was 1.7M which is probably a little less than the scale for a 3 year veteran.

he's gambling that some team will sign him for the minimum, and obviously, he wanted out of Cleveland
 
wizenheimer said:
it was 1.7M which is probably a little less than the scale for a 3 year veteran.

he's gambling that some team will sign him for the minimum, and obviously, he wanted out of Cleveland
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He's a talented bigman. Make's me wonder why he hasn't signed somewhere.
 
Mediocre Man said:
It probably did get slightly better.

With some health luck, a different offensive and defensive scheme with people buying into it…….who knows?

We aren’t a true contender, but maybe enough to win a series?

I still wish they would have traded Dame this year to start the inevitable rebuild
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Teams can be in a rebuild mode forever. You milk it as long as you can with a generational talent. It's moronic to be in a hurry to get real bad quick. Too many people go into "give up" mode. Enjoy Dame while you can.
 
tykendo said:
Teams can be in a rebuild mode forever. You milk it as long as you can with a generational talent. It's moronic to be in a hurry to get real bad quick. Too many people go into "give up" mode. Enjoy Dame while you can.
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Milk what, purgatory?
 
B-Roy said:
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CSfDC3mJ8tt/?utm_medium=share_sheet

Teams under the luxury tax the end of this season will each receive $13 Million each, the highest ever. I bet this factors into how so close we are to the luxury tax. If we can get out of the tax at the trade deadline it would put a hefty chunk of change in Jody's pocket.
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That's maybe the revenue from 2 home playoff games in later rounds. If she lets 13 mil come in the way of signing someone or trading for someone of significance, I will pack Dame's bags for him. We better be in the tax this year-- it was essentially sold like it was going to be after desperately climbing out of it last year.
 

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^ Josh Hart is BPA in terms of free agents left. I wouldn't be mad at that for the full TPMLE. But I think NO would just match.
 
B-Roy said:
^ Josh Hart is BPA in terms of free agents left. I wouldn't be mad at that for the full TPMLE. But I think NO would just match.
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they'd match for sure

I'm thinking Portland wants a 3rd vet minimum deal, and either save or not use the TPMLE. I'd be pretty sure they'd take Millsap for a minimum deal. I'd guess they have already offered it. But Millsap wants more and nobody is offering more
 
wizenheimer said:
they'd match for sure

I'm thinking Portland wants a 3rd vet minimum deal, and either save or not use the TPMLE. I'd be pretty sure they'd take Millsap for a minimum deal. I'd guess they have already offered it. But Millsap wants more and nobody is offering more
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I'd be surprised if we haven't already offered something like a 2-year/10M contract with the second year as a TO. The 5 million a year allows us to sign Greg Brown using part of the MLE to a 3-4 year deal. The TO absolves us of his contract next year in case things go south. I suspect that's why Greg Brown hasn't signed his contract yet.

But I think Millsap is waiting to see if any contenders would give him that same contract. There are still contenders with a majority of the TPMLE/MLE still available. He was reportedly interested in Golden State before.
 
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B-Roy said:
I'd be surprised if we haven't already offered something like a 2-year/10M contract with the second year as a TO. The 5 million a year allows us to sign Greg Brown using part of the MLE to a 3-4 year deal. The TO absolves us of his contract next year in case things go south. I suspect that's why Greg Brown hasn't signed his contract yet.

But I think Millsap is waiting to see if any contenders would give him that same contract. There are still contenders with a majority of the TPMLE/MLE still available. He was reportedly interested in Golden State before.
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GS already has: Draymond/Wiseman/Kuminga/Looney/Bjelica in their bigman rotation.

Even Porter/Iggy can swing to PF.

Highly doubt they would take on any more contracts even at the minimum given their already ridiculous tax bill.
 
illmatic99 said:
GS already has: Draymond/Wiseman/Kuminga/Looney/Bjelica in their bigman rotation.

Even Porter/Iggy can swing to PF.

Highly doubt they would take on any more contracts even at the minimum given their already ridiculous tax bill.
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I'm not saying GS would want him. I'm just saying he'd rather go to a true contender. GS is not the only team with part of the MLE left. He has no reason to be in a rush to commit.
 
B-Roy said:
I'm not saying GS would want him. I'm just saying he'd rather go to a true contender. GS is not the only team with part of the MLE left. He has no reason to be in a rush to commit.
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Also doubt the veracity of his interest. I would think he still wants a role where he can get 15-20 mpg. Those minutes just aren't there in GS. I read earlier he was interested in returning to ATL-- I believe that more.
 
illmatic99 said:
Also doubt the veracity of his interest. I would think he still wants a role where he can get 15-20 mpg. Those minutes just aren't there in GS. I read earlier he was interested in returning to ATL-- I believe that more.
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That makes sense as well. ATL was in the ECF last year. Plus Millsap is in ATL at the moment. Maybe he lives there during the off-season.
 
Bring back Ed, I would think Chauncey would want at least some toughness on the Roster, great bench/locker room guy and a friend of Dames.
 
Svi is my choice

Instant offense off the bench.

Minnesota will lock up Jarred.
 
illmatic99 said:
Dame in FIBA this year: 11.2 pts, 3.2 asts, 2.7 rebs in 24 mpg on 38% FG, 35% from 3.

Exum in FIBA this year: 9.0 pts, 2.8 asts, 3.7 rebs in 21 mpg on 57% FG, 60% from 3.

I would take a flyer on Exum for the minimum.
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If CJ is traded for a forward that isn't Simmons then I like Exum because he can run the point but... right now I'd much rather have a big 4 that can play the 5. Also comparing those stats is preposterous.
 
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