Fuck this healthcare Reform...

[Denny Crane]

Since we're talking Utopia...

The govt. builds public housing near the beach. There's a road between the building and the beach. The apartments on the 1st floor have views obstructed by the palm trees across the street. The apartments on the 2nd floor have unobstructed views. Who gets the 1st floor ones and who gets the 2nd floor ones, and who decides?

 

[Minstrel]

I remember you posting that Obama would govern as a moderate where I thought he would govern as his political history showed, which is to the far left.

Yes, sadly I was right.

So much for the "socialist steamroller" that you envisioned. I really wanted you to be right.

 

[OddEnormous]

The poor of today would be considered the middle class of the 1940s.

So what? What are you talking about?

 

[OddEnormous]

Capitalism by definition isn't a zero-sum game. Rich owners of businesses require workers with disposable income to purchase their goods. Capitalism seeks a growing pie, not a redistribution of one the same size year after year after year.

Yeah I know.

Please stop responding to my posts, your wasting my time.

 

[maxiep]

So what? What are you talking about?

Your statement was that capitalism required an underclass that remained poor. My point is that the wealth of this society has trickled down and made everyone's lives better. It's an inarguable fact.

 

[maxiep]

Yeah I know.

Please stop responding to my posts, you're wasting my time.

How about if I correct your grammar? Would that be wasting your time?

As for responding to your posts, I think I'll do what I please. Thanks for the offer, though.

 

[Denny Crane]

Brazil

BTW, the USA has a GDP that's 25% of the entire world's GDP. The world has a $60T GDP, the USA's is $14.5T.

 

[OddEnormous]

It's an inarguable fact.

So is = capitalism requires an underclass that remains poor.

you're trying to argue something that isn't there. Are you Colin Cowherd in disguise?

Congrats on teh grummer phlame.

 

[Denny Crane]

Capitalism has never been tried.

You set up a strawman and argue against that.

 

[blazerboy30]

I don't even know how to respond to this.

Does "so what?" work?

That works since you don't have an intelligent response.

You're the one denouncing capitalism because there are a lot of "poor" people, doing crappy jobs.

 

[OddEnormous]

That works since you don't have an intelligent response.

You're the one denouncing capitalism because there are a lot of "poor" people, doing crappy jobs.

The bad news: I did not denounce it you fucking quilt. I'm living in it and luckily enjoy it a bit.

The good news: you'd make a great anchor on Fox news.

 

[blazerboy30]

The bad news: I did not denounce it you fucking quilt. I'm living in it and luckily enjoy it a bit.

The good news: you'd make a great anchor on Fox news.

I see that you get upset and start name-calling when your ignorance is exposed. Good conversation.

Definitions of denounce on the Web:

speak out against;
stigmatize: to accuse or condemn or openly or formally or brand as disgraceful;

It's an exploitive system that NEEDS poor people to exist. You should just be grateful some are willing to do shitty jobs for 5 bucks an hour their whole life and realize how lucky you may have been to be born with the smarts, family, drive, dna etc to exploit the system like many of us have.

Capitalism has caused just as much if not more destruction. It depends on the exploitation of human beings. There is no such thing as rich people in a vacuum. You need poor people in capitalism or it doesn't work.

You're right, you didn't denounce capitalism... if you view exploiting people as a good thing.

 

[OddEnormous]

I see that you get upset and start name-calling when your ignorance is exposed. Good conversation.

Good conversation = Making things up.

Almost forgot: Call people ignorant in back to back posts.


Got it!

 

[blazerboy30]

Good conversation = Making things up.

Almost forgot: Call people ignorant in back to back posts.


Got it!

You're an angry wittle fella, aren't you?

 

[OddEnormous]

You're an angry wittle fella, aren't you?

I'll add this to my "great conversation" notes I'm putting together.

So far I have:

-Jump into conversation with a point that has nothing to do with what's being argued.

-When one of them asks you "What in the hell are you talking about?" Call them ignorant.

-Next, misinterpret what they have said in this conversation.

-When they correct you and finally insult you, call them ignorant again or maybe even spice it up a bit with something like "You're an angry wittle fella, aren't you?"


How am I doing so far? Bare with me I'm just learning the craft.

 

[maxiep]

So is = capitalism requires an underclass that remains poor.

It's a false premise. The more capitalist a society, the wealthier it is. The wealthier a society as a whole, the better the poorest among it live.

You're welcome.

 

[OddEnormous]

It's a false premise.

How is it false?

There is no such thing as a rich person unless there is a poor person. You can only be rich in context.

 

[maxiep]

How is it false?

There is no such thing as a rich person unless there is a poor person. You can only be rich in context.

Yep, and the context is the world. I'll take the life of someone poor in America over the live of the average person in the Third World.

 

[OddEnormous]

Yep, and the context is the world. I'll take the life of someone poor in America over the live of the average person in the Third World.

I'm very happy for you.

No idea what it has to do with anything. but I'm happy for you all the same.

P.s. I like our ice cream better than Canada's.

Rom Com's > snuff films.

Blue > Yellow

Oranges > grapes

Grass > spider webs

 

[maxiep]

I'm very happy for you.

No idea what it has to do with anything. but I'm happy for you all the same.

P.s. I like our ice cream better than Canada's.

Rom Com's > snuff films.

Blue > Yellow

Oranges > grapes

Grass > spider webs

I understand. Jibberish is all you have left. Vaya con Dios.

 

[KingSpeed]

Obama ran for President on the promise of healthcare reform and people voted him in. You have to give him credit for getting it done.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Obama ran for President on the promise of healthcare reform and people voted him in. You have to give him credit for getting it done.

This is true.

My complaint is that there were multiple ways to deliver universal healthcare better, cheaper and in a bipartisan way. This is the mosty divisive bill in the history of the country and the fallout will be on going for years.

 

[maxiep]

Obama ran for President on the promise of healthcare reform and people voted him in. You have to give him credit for getting it done.

Obama ran for President on the promise of healing the divides that supposedly existed in this country and setting a new post-partisan tone in Washington, and people voted him in. I would give him credit if he would have created a health insurance reform bill that would have been broadly bi-partisan and didn't have to resort to legislative tricks to get it done.

He gets no credit for muscling this crap sandwich through.

 

[OddEnormous]

I understand. Jibberish is all you have left.

Your mastery of all things gibberish (other than how to spell it) was made quite clear in your last post.

 

[mook]

Happened to see this on the front page of Digg this morning.

 

[blazerboy30]

Happened to see this on the front page of Digg this morning.

Just because all of those things exist doesn't mean they are efficient.

To me that image is just proof that we have given our government too much power and control over our lives. It isn't justification for letting them take over healthcare, and then let them run it extremely inefficiently.

 

[Minstrel]

Happened to see this on the front page of Digg this morning.

Nice attempt to cover up the fact that you browse 4chan.

Pretty surprising fare for that venue, though.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Nice attempt to cover up the fact that you browse 4chan.

Pretty surprising fare for that venue, though.

 

[maxiep]

Your mastery of all things gibberish (other than how to spell it) was made quite clear in your last post.

Thank you for correcting my spelling error. I would rather be corrected than continue to spell something incorrectly.

However, you're the one posting non-sequitor arguments, not me.

 

[Ed O]

Why? Their existence made your being better off possible. If you don't believe that this is true, go to a deserted island and see how rich you become with no society. Society enables riches and opportunity and you have to pay something back in return. It is so very capitalistic a principle, after all, that there's no such thing as a free lunch. You should pay for anything you get, which includes the opportunity to succeed.

Actually, my life is improved much more by the people who have good fortune, rather than bad.

Put me on a deserted island with a bunch of people who are drug addicts and/or have just been in a car accident and/or are in need of a heart transplant and I'm going to be worse off than if I were by myself.

On the other hand, put me with people that have managed to educate themselves and had generally had "good luck", and I'll be better off.

I believe that the cost we bear for the opportunity to succeed is the possibility that we will have something terrible befall us. It's up to us to put away for a rainy day... or not. And it's up to us to accept that, sometimes, shit happens and it's nobody's fault.

Ed O.