Game Thread GAME# 19: BLAZERS @ WARRIORS - NOVEMBER 23, 2018 - FRIDAY, 7:30 PM, NBCSNW

[e_blazer]

Sure stats dont mean everything, but Dame does shoot a lot of 3’s and his percentage is pretty bad in comparison to how many he shoots. He’s got “unlimited” range, but I dont really consider him an elite 3 point shooter. An elite scorer no doubt and he can definitely get hot. Id consider him like the 4th best 3 point shooter on the team. CJ, Seth, and ML I think are better shooters than him, obviously none of those guys comes even close to the full skillset that Dame has.

Dame would kill Curry and ML in a three point shooting contest. It would be really interesting between him and CJ.

 

[BBert]

Dame shoots open threes like they are free throws. The difference is, opponents don't leave him open.

 

[stampedehero]

If I was Stotts I would say "Remember the Bucks, kill the Warriors." No Green. No Curry and Cousins is questionable.

 

[Strenuus]

If I was Stotts I would say "Remember the Bucks, kill the Warriors." No Green. No Curry and Cousins is questionable.

I thought Cousins wasnt playing until around February or march?

 

[stampedehero]

I thought Cousins wasnt playing until around February or march?

That is even better. The injury notes under their team did not state that.

 

[TBpup]

If I was Stotts I would say "Remember the Bucks, kill the Warriors." No Green. No Curry and Cousins is questionable.

If Green AND Curry are still out, this should be a win. No excuses.

 

[Labinot41]

Steph and Green out

 

[Rozay]

Lillard 34.1 3P%... Wtf

I said this last time and I got killed for it. He’s not that great of a 3 point shooter.

 

[Rozay]

I agree. Dame is my favourite and he made me to become a Blazers fan. And he has his 10-15 Games per Season he is Shooting lights out, but overall he is not a good 3 point Shooter. Since the retool in 2015 he shot 37.5%, 37.0%, 36.1% and this year his 3 point shot has fallen to 34.1%.

Yup exactly. Every year he has 10-15 games like you said (usually post all star break) where he’s super nova that gets his percentages up. But in theory all things considered I wouldn’t say Dame is an excellent 3 point shooter.

Dame does better from the mid range and driving to the rack. Also drawing fouls. But his 3 point shooting is overrated

 

[Rozay]

his playoff statistics are even worse, 38.6% (good), 16.1% (terrible), 39.1% (good), 28.1% (very bad) and 30.0% (bad)

I been saying it to my buddies for years too. His overall playoff numbers aren’t great in general (career 40% from the field and 34% from 3)

 

[Shaboid]

If Green AND Curry are still out, this should be a win. No excuses.

I prefer Red Curry anyway.

 

[kjironman1]

This game is not looking good at all for the Blazers IMO

The Warriors are on a 4 game losing streak and they just lost to OKC by 28.

The Warriors even without Curry and Green are way more talented than the Blazers and the Blazers are on the road.

Just way too many people thinking this will be a win. Some are even saying that there is no excuse for a loss.

The one bright spot would be Looney vs Nurkic. If the Blazers decide to play a power inside out game instead of trying to make a bunch of threes then they might be able to get this game. Blazers need to play this game inside out. Make the Warriors protect the rim then they can start to think about making them pay from deep.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Dame would kill Curry and ML in a three point shooting contest. It would be really interesting between him and CJ.

I dont think so with Curry, that dude can flat out shoot and no one leaves him open, his percentages are comparable to his brothers. Just in terms of standing and shooting with no one guarding him he can light it up.

 

[kjironman1]

I dont think so with Curry, that dude can flat out shoot and no one leaves him open, his percentages are comparable to his brothers. Just in terms of standing and shooting with no one guarding him he can light it up.

I agree with you there.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

This game is not looking good at all for the Blazers IMO

The Warriors are on a 4 game losing streak and they just lost to OKC by 28.

The Warriors even without Curry and Green are way more talented than the Blazers and the Blazers are on the road.

Just way too many people thinking this will be a win. Some are even saying that there is no excuse for a loss.

The one bright spot would be Looney vs Nurkic. If the Blazers decide to play a power inside out game instead of trying to make a bunch of threes then they might be able to get this game. Blazers need to play this game inside out. Make the Warriors protect the rim then they can start to think about making them pay from deep.

I disagree with saying the Blazers arent as talented as the warriors without Curry and Green. The Warrriors depth kind of sucks without Curry and Green. Its actually pretty comparable.

 

[Rozay]

Dame would kill Curry and ML in a three point shooting contest. It would be really interesting between him and CJ.

Your kidding me right? Curry throughout his whole career has never shot below 40% from 3 where Dame has never even cracked 40% once lol

 

[e_blazer]

I dont think so with Curry, that dude can flat out shoot and no one leaves him open, his percentages are comparable to his brothers. Just in terms of standing and shooting with no one guarding him he can light it up.

And you think Dame can't?

 

[TBpup]

Just way too many people thinking this will be a win. Some are even saying that there is no excuse for a loss.

I'll own that....and I'm not saying I think it will be a win but rather it should be a win. If you can't beat the Warriors without two of their best starters, then you have no business even thinking about being a contender despite a record that is near the top of the WC.

Likewise, take Dame/Nurk off our team and we should get beat by just about any team that is good. If the Blazers have really made strides from last year, they will win this game. If they lose sans Curry/Green, I'll have a hard time seeing them as anything other than a nice team that will finish with a winning record that won't do squat in the Playoffs.

 

[e_blazer]

Your kidding me right? Curry throughout his whole career has never shot below 40% from 3 where Dame has never even cracked 40% once lol

Apples meet oranges.

Seth doesn't get half of the defensive pressure that Dame gets. Seth doesn't take nearly as many shots in pressure situations as Dame is called upon to do. Dame takes many more tough shots because he's called on to be the team leader in situations where the Blazers are struggling and need someone to step up and make a shot.

LOL? Give me a break.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

And you think Dame can't?

Not questioning if Dame can shoot, but I dont think he’d wipe the floor with Curry in a shooting contest.

 

[e_blazer]

This game is not looking good at all for the Blazers IMO

The Warriors are on a 4 game losing streak and they just lost to OKC by 28.

The Warriors even without Curry and Green are way more talented than the Blazers and the Blazers are on the road.

Just way too many people thinking this will be a win. Some are even saying that there is no excuse for a loss.

The one bright spot would be Looney vs Nurkic. If the Blazers decide to play a power inside out game instead of trying to make a bunch of threes then they might be able to get this game. Blazers need to play this game inside out. Make the Warriors protect the rim then they can start to think about making them pay from deep.

I agree. It's going to be a tough game. Both teams are stinging from crappy performances and are wanting a win. Should be a fun one to watch.

 

[e_blazer]

Not questioning if Dame can shoot, but I dont think he’d wipe the floor with Curry in a shooting contest.

Seth is a good shooter, no question. Just shooting for fun in the gym, maybe I put some money on him. Put them in a bit more pressure, like an organized three point contest with a crowd, I'm taking Mr. Ice Water for Blood.

 

[Rozay]

Apples meet oranges.

Seth doesn't get half of the defensive pressure that Dame gets. Seth doesn't take nearly as many shots in pressure situations as Dame is called upon to do. Dame takes many more tough shots because he's called on to be the team leader in situations where the Blazers are struggling and need someone to step up and make a shot.

LOL? Give me a break.

Who you talking about ? Seth or Steph Curry? I was talking about the legendary Steph Curry

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Apples meet oranges.

Seth doesn't get half of the defensive pressure that Dame gets. Seth doesn't take nearly as many shots in pressure situations as Dame is called upon to do. Dame takes many more tough shots because he's called on to be the team leader in situations where the Blazers are struggling and need someone to step up and make a shot.


LOL? Give me a break.

Dame volunteerily takes tough shots at times no ones asking him to pull up from the logo and see if it goes in or not. Dame faces the best defenders every night and I think everyone knows that. Heres the reality of Dames 3 pointer though. He’s currently shooting .341% from 3 that ranks him tied for 99th in the league. There are a lot of #1 options ahead of him. His ts% is really good, because he’s a great ft shooter, and he finishes very well.
Dame is great, I love his leadership and when he’s on he can light it up from anywhere. I think the steph curry comparison is more about the range their comfortable shooting from than how likely it is for the ball to go in...

Edit: The Seth thing I think in an empty gym scenario is pretty close.

For what its worth Dame had 18 in the 3 point contest when he was in it.

 

[Scalma]

Hardly a game that Portland should win, despite draymond and curry not playing. Warriors will still have the best player on the court. Klay always goes off against Portland, so if he’s going to have a breakout game, it’s going to be tonight.

Can Portland win? Sure. But to expect it is crazy.

 

[e_blazer]

Who you talking about ? Seth or Steph Curry? I was talking about the legendary Steph Curry

We're talking about Seth, since he's a Blazer. Wouldn't mind adding Steph to the team though, in which case I'd agree with you.

 

[e_blazer]

Dame volunteerily takes tough shots at times no ones asking him to pull up from the logo and see if it goes in or not. Dame faces the best defenders every night and I think everyone knows that. Heres the reality of Dames 3 pointer though. He’s currently shooting .341% from 3 that ranks him tied for 99th in the league. There are a lot of #1 options ahead of him. His ts% is really good, because he’s a great ft shooter, and he finishes very well.
Dame is great, I love his leadership and when he’s on he can light it up from anywhere. I think the steph curry comparison is more about the range their comfortable shooting from than how likely it is for the ball to go in...

Edit: The Seth thing I think in an empty gym scenario is pretty close.

For what its worth Dame had 18 in the 3 point contest when he was in it.

Dame's shooting from three is down a bit this year, but his career average of 36.7% is never going to put him among the league leaders. Steph Curry has a much more respectable career average of 43.8% and is shooting an insane 49.2% this year. Dame is NEVER going to approach Steph's shooting from deep, but there's something to be learned from Steph's increased accuracy this year, which is primarily due to him deliberately taking fewer of the crazy-long/forced shots. I'd love for Dame to be able to follow suit in that, but here's the thing: Steph has Durrant, Kly and Draymond available to take the shots that he's been passing up. That's a bit different than Dame's situation where once you get past CJ, it's a total crap shoot as to whether Aminu or Layman is going to stick the shot if Dame passes it to them. The Blazers need at least one more consistent shooter in order to get a true idea of what Dame's 3 point shooting percentage would look like if teams weren't able to load up on him all the time and if he felt he could truly trust his teammates to hit the shot if he passes to them.

 

[Strenuus]

Who you talking about ? Seth or Steph Curry? I was talking about the legendary Steph Curry

Why would we be talking about Steph curry and Meyers Leonard together? Wasn't that cognitively a clue as to what team we were talking about?

No wait. WAIT. MEYERS IS GOING TO GOLDEN STATE? MAKE IT SO.

 

[DDolla]

Warriors not losing 5 straight, sorry. I road trip predictions of 4-2 is now 2-4.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Dame's shooting from three is down a bit this year, but his career average of 36.7% is never going to put him among the league leaders. Steph Curry has a much more respectable career average of 43.8% and is shooting an insane 49.2% this year. Dame is NEVER going to approach Steph's shooting from deep, but there's something to be learned from Steph's increased accuracy this year, which is primarily due to him deliberately taking fewer of the crazy-long/forced shots. I'd love for Dame to be able to follow suit in that, but here's the thing: Steph has Durrant, Kly and Draymond available to take the shots that he's been passing up. That's a bit different than Dame's situation where once you get past CJ, it's a total crap shoot as to whether Aminu or Layman is going to stick the shot if Dame passes it to them. The Blazers need at least one more consistent shooter in order to get a true idea of what Dame's 3 point shooting percentage would look like if teams weren't able to load up on him all the time and if he felt he could truly trust his teammates to hit the shot if he passes to them.

Draymond hasnt really been a good 3 point shooter, and Steph had a couple amazing years from deep before KD got there. However overall I agree that the situation is very favorable for Curry. Though I think Curry is the engine of that offense, I hate GS but Curry’s shooting is one of those things that just is jaw dropping at times.
Dame to me is a mix of Westbrook and Curry. Not as good of an athleteas westbrook, but still a very explosive and quick guy. Not as good of a pure shooter as Curry but scary enough you have to throw defenders at him out there. He’s also a lot more under control than WB, he’s a great player, and a great leader.
In terms of his team mates, well He’s got a lot of guys who are streaky guys on his team and not a lot of consistant guys, and teams definitely leave a lot of guys on their team open to see if they can best them or not.