Game Thread GAME# 4: BLAZERS @ SPURS - OCTOBER 28, 2019 - MONDAY, 5:30 PM, NBCSNW

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Whom would you start in Zach's place?

  • Brown

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Hezonja

    Votes: 24 42.9%

  • Hoard

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Labissiere

    Votes: 27 48.2%

  • Little

    Votes: 4 7.1%

  • Tolliver

    Votes: 1 1.8%
  • Total voters
    56
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tlongII said:
I do not expect the Spurs to make the playoffs.
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It's not a lock by any means but they have a good enough team and they have Pop. Counting them out would be a mistake. But that is your opinion and i can respect that.
 
The Professional Fan said:
No. I'm saying, clearly, that this is a brand new roster and they have superior talent to last season, and they need time to gell. That's it. There's no spinning your shit around that. You either agree or disagree. That's it.
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They've clearly shown they still retain the HEART. The rest will come.
 
HailBlazers said:
His ability to bitch at the refs to get his way is legendary.
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He'll spend 5-10 minutes in a refs ear.

He is such a good coach because he is never happy.

The Spurs won tonight. He is pissed
 
BonesJones said:
Spurs are a good team, I think we're much better.

If we simply didn't settle for 14 jumpshots in 16 or 17 possessions in the 3rd quarter when we couldn't hit any, then we would've won. Maybe we should've went away from settling for shooting jumpers every possession. But then again, the only way we were getting into the paint was by isolating or going 1 on 1 or 1 on 2... So what's the problem?

Our offensive system doesn't get guys with the ball going downhill, or utilize cuts going towards the rim. Sure, we may see them here and there, but they're too far and few between, and they aren't utilized like they should be when we have stretches where jumpers aren't falling (like was the case in the 3rd quarter). Other teams have no trouble getting designed action towards the rim, no matter what their personnel is.

But somehow that's not a coaching issue. But when Dame hits contested stepback fadeaway threes to bring us back, somehow that's coaching.
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Nice take.
I agree they could get the ball going to the rim better. Hope they work on that. I also think having a better PnR center might help. Nurk would definitely help. I think they could have gone to the lob a bit better tonight? Not sure what the hang up was? Whiteside was open for lobs at times.
 
JDC said:
Look at our first 3 games...
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We had guys hitting jumpshots and driving well in isolation. The problem is when we can't hit jumpshots or isolate well, we don't get to the rim and have to settle for the jumpshots that we're not making.
 
Not to mention, I totally see Ant making huge strides this year which, alone, will elevate our team over what we were last season. I'd have said the same about Collins but his shoulder injury has kind of curbed my expectations. For now.
 
Dame was interesting game. Dame both shot them out of and back into it. It’s weird reading this thread, everything bad seems to be labeled, “Stotts (or Tolliver)”, everything good is “Dame!”. Fact is Dame went into forcing shots mode and helped them dig the 2nd half hole, he was I believe 3-18 at one point.

The entire 3rd quarter was a brick fest, some of coaching, but some of just guys not hitting very make-able shots.

All in all, good game glad they made it respectable towards the end, had clean looks Both Dame and Tolliver and just couldnt get them to fall.
 
kjironman1 said:
Nice take.
I agree they could get the ball going to the rim better. Hope they work on that. I also think having a better PnR center might help. Nurk would definitely help. I think they could have gone to the lob a bit better tonight? Not sure what the hang up was? Whiteside was open for lobs at times.
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It'd help, but my main issue is that our sets don't have actions designed to get guys going downhill unless it's through pick n roll. And some might argue that they do, but if we do we don't utilize it for long stretches where we settle for a bunch of jumpshots. There's a reason why our bench unit struggles to get anything within 15 feet, we don't have a Dame or C.J.
 
Ugh, I'm watching replay of that last shot. Hood put too much air on that last pass, allowing the Spurs defender to catch up to Dame and make it a tougher shot.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Dame was interesting game. Dame both shot them out of and back into it. It’s weird reading this thread, everything bad seems to be labeled, “Stotts (or Tolliver)”, everything good is “Dame!”. Fact is Dame went into forcing shots mode and helped them dig the 2nd half hole, he was I believe 3-18 at one point.

The entire 3rd quarter was a brick fest, some of coaching, but some of just guys not hitting very make-able shots.

All in all, good game glad they made it respectable towards the end, had clean looks Both Dame and Tolliver and just couldnt get them to fall.
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That's the thing, if jumpers were falling then those would all be good shots. But when they're not, we need to get to the rim to get something going.
 
BonesJones said:
Look at our 3rd quarter shot chart.
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I understand where you are going with this but a bunch of those jumpers were wide open good looks that didn't fall. heck some didn't hit the rim. I agree when that is happening then they need to take the ball to the hoop. But dame tried this also and was not getting calls. Neither was CJ. 3rd quarter was a tough quarter no question.
 
We are a pick and roll offense, and Whiteside has been a bad pick and roll threat. That is part of it.
 
BonesJones said:
That's the thing, if jumpers were falling then those would all be good shots. But when they're not, we need to get to the rim to get something going.
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What makes SAS so frustrating is its really hard to get calls against them (I posted it at half time), they are in the top 5-10 every year for opponents free attempts, the refs to me are scarred of Pops. I think they tried at times to attack but eventually if you’re getting hit every time and no calls are being made I can understand being tentative to go to the basket.
 
kjironman1 said:
I understand where you are going with this but a bunch of those jumpers were wide open good looks that didn't fall. heck some didn't hit the rim. I agree when that is happening then they need to take the ball to the hoop. But dame tried this also and was not getting calls. Neither was CJ. 3rd quarter was a tough quarter no question.
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Read my post right before this. Sure, there's a lot of other things we can look at, like refs, but we control our shot selection. It's so frustrating for me when we settle for jumper after jumper after jumper when they're not falling. Get to the rim! Also, our bench unit needs designed sets to help them get interior shots. We don't have them, and we don't have an elite guard or elite post to simply give the ball to and let them go to work.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
What makes SAS so frustrating is its really hard to get calls against them (I posted it at half time), they are in the top 5-10 every year for opponents free attempts, the refs to me are scarred of Pops. I think they tried at times to attack but eventually if you’re getting hit every time and no calls are being made I can understand being tentative to the basket.
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True, but we control our shot selection, we don't control the refs.
 
A thought to savor.

Dame's A/M tonight was .36 very dismal.
SA's PG was 1.60 Outstanding play.
All due to coaching from my seat.
 
BonesJones said:
True, but we control our shot selection, we don't control the refs.
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Yes but at the same time you’re more likely to make a jumper than a shot going to the basket with LMA and Poetl both hitting arms and body. I get your point, when the Jumpers arent falling you to go towards the rim. I think thats where they really miss Nurk offensively, I also think they missed Zach down in there offensively too. He isnt the strongest guy but he’s got great footwork on post moves. I realize post ups aren’t neccesarily going towards the rim, but its still playing inside out. I thought they’d post Rodney more.
 
BonesJones said:
It'd help, but my main issue is that our sets don't have actions designed to get guys going downhill unless it's through pick n roll. And some might argue that they do, but if we do we don't utilize it for long stretches where we settle for a bunch of jumpshots. There's a reason why our bench unit struggles to get anything within 15 feet, we don't have a Dame or C.J.
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Watched Simons try a few times. Sometimes going at the rim takes another player to help out and be an outlet. He didn't get that kind of support. The second unit needs work. These are issue i presume they are working on. At least i hope so?
 
BonesJones said:
Read my post right before this. Sure, there's a lot of other things we can look at, like refs, but we control our shot selection. It's so frustrating for me when we settle for jumper after jumper after jumper when they're not falling. Get to the rim! Also, our bench unit needs designed sets to help them get interior shots. We don't have them, and we don't have an elite guard or elite post to simply give the ball to and let them go to work.
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Yeah i read it and gave it a like already.
 
Its crazy with Lillard it’s never ever over. He can have worst shooting night ever and go 1-25 and then last 5 min he can get hot and not miss a shot! It sucks ball came out but people will be shocked to know The Goat Jordan missed more than 50% of buzzer beaters and shots in last 10 seconds, and kobe missed 73% , Dame just gotta keep doing what he has been doing he does have the clutch gene, we saw kyre miss back to back last second shots
 
kjironman1 said:
A/M stat.... Really? You do realize the entire team was missing shots right?
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:tongue:
They need shots they can make, not one's they will miss! Coaching, play design, execution.
 
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TorturedBlazerFan said:
Dame was interesting game. Dame both shot them out of and back into it. It’s weird reading this thread, everything bad seems to be labeled, “Stotts (or Tolliver)”, everything good is “Dame!”. Fact is Dame went into forcing shots mode and helped them dig the 2nd half hole, he was I believe 3-18 at one point.

The entire 3rd quarter was a brick fest, some of coaching, but some of just guys not hitting very make-able shots.

All in all, good game glad they made it respectable towards the end, had clean looks Both Dame and Tolliver and just couldnt get them to fall.
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3 of 10 from three...one or two more in is the difference
 
kjironman1 said:
Watched Simons try a few times. Sometimes going at the rim takes another player to help out and be an outlet. He didn't get that kind of support. The second unit needs work. These are issue i presume they are working on. At least i hope so?
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I'd love to see some backscreens for wings, UCLA cuts, cross screens for bigs, backdoor cuts (where have these gone?), a guard to reject the flare screen and cut (which they never do and Stotts could instruct them to do on a dead ball when they're in the middle of missing a bunch of jumpers), or something to give guys a chance around the rim or going to the rim with a pass. That way, when we're missing jumpshots, we can get the ball inside for closer shots, and that also might create inside-out passes, which are the easiest passes to shoot off of, which might get us going on jumpshots too. Very frustrating for me that we don't regularly do any of that or switch up our style of play when jumpers aren't falling.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Yes but at the same time you’re more likely to make a jumper than a shot going to the basket with LMA and Poetl both hitting arms and body. I get your point, when the Jumpers arent falling you to go towards the rim. I think thats where they really miss Nurk offensively, I also think they missed Zach down in there offensively too. He isnt the strongest guy but he’s got great footwork on post moves. I realize post ups aren’t neccesarily going towards the rim, but its still playing inside out. I thought they’d post Rodney more.
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No, you're not. On average, shots within 10 feet are much more efficient than shots outside of 10 feet. We shouldn't settle for going 0 for 14 on jumpers because we're scared of Aldridge and Poeltl..

Good set designs can get solid interior shots against any rim protection. And if not? Fine, at least we didn't settle for going 0 for 14 on jumpshots!
 
BonesJones said:
I'd love to see some backscreens for wings, UCLA cuts, cross screens for bigs, backdoor cuts (where have these gone?), a guard to reject the flare screen and cut (which they never do and Stotts could instruct them to do on a dead ball when they're in the middle of missing a bunch of jumpers), or something to give guys a chance around the rim or going to the rim with a pass. That way, when we're missing jumpshots, we can get the ball inside for closer shots, and that also might create inside-out passes, which are the easiest passes to shoot off of, which might get us going on jumpshots too. Very frustrating for me that we don't regularly do any of that or switch up our style of play when jumpers aren't falling.
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I think you should come visit the MarAzul!
See what we can do.

I suspect the power is with the fans to move this mediocrity off the spot. If we focus.
 
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