Game Thread GAME# 42: MAGIC @ BLAZERS - JANUARY 13, 2017 - FRIDAY, 7:00 PM (PDT), KGW

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If we're trading Harkless as part of a deal for Chandler - that's fucked up. I love harkless, but I'd trade him if it got us something better.... for a LONGER time than Chandler can give us. That would be incredibly stupid.

Harkless' intangables are worth way more than Chandler. I would take 5 years ago Chandler - not now.
 
gatorpops said:
If you have this game recorded go back to the first and see as Harkless walks to the bench just before the game begins.
Watch the rection of coaches and players come up to him and congratulate/offer condolances and shake hands.
Looks like he is maybe going to be traded. He may very well have been told just before the game.
Maybe why the team played so badly at first and for that mater maybe all season long.
With the tweet that Festis is not going on trip it would make a good package for a trade along with a draft pick for.........
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I'm really going to be pissed if we keep Aminu over him...
 
dviss1 said:
I'm really going to be pissed if we keep Aminu over him...
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Not me....Aminu is on a contract we won't see ever again in the league....if Harkless brings us a better player, you do it
 
dviss1 said:
IDGAF about Chief's contract. He's not as good as Hark and that's all that matters to me.
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nah dviss....he's the best defender we have had in a long time...Harkless is neither a stellar scorer or defender....he's athletic, young and needs to be told where to be on possessions. when Chief was down, check his numbers and how many games we lost....Harkless to me is much easier to replace than Chief
 
Chief is so superior defensively that it's not even close. Harkless has the potential to be a lock down defender eventually, but he isn't right now. As for offense Harkless is better but it's not so much better that it makes up for the difference on the other side of the ball.

For the long term, I'd still rather have Harkless though, just because I love the idea of what he could become.
 
Scalma said:
Chief is so superior defensively that it's not even close.
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No. He's. Not. Queef is a very average defender - there's nothing superior about him at all. He's versatile in that he can guard SGs to PFs with little drop off, but he doesn't guard any position particularly well.
 
blue9 said:
No. He's. Not. Queef is a very average defender - there's nothing superior about him at all. He's versatile in that he can guard SGs to PFs with little drop off, but he doesn't guard any position particularly well.
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Maybe watch another sport then.
 
blue9 said:
No. He's. Not. Queef is a very average defender
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wrong....way wrong...we have nobody who can defend KD or Lebron like Chief can....nobody...when the best player in the world says he's a tough defender, I listen..Lebron praises Chiefs defense
 
I agree with blue9. I think Aminu, defensively, is like Harrison Barnes--versatile in that he can defend 2-4 credibly, but not a great defender at any of those positions. That made him valuable last year when he was also hitting three-pointers. That appears to have been a one-year fluke, though. Unless Aminu rediscovers that stroke, I don't personally put a high value on him. He's not a bad player to have, but I'd much rather have Harkless (of course, that depends on Harkless continuing to hit threes--this could be a one-year fluke for him...).
 
riverman said:
nah dviss....he's the best defender we have had in a long time...Harkless is neither a stellar scorer or defender....he's athletic, young and needs to be told where to be on possessions. when Chief was down, check his numbers and how many games we lost....Harkless to me is much easier to replace than Chief
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Well I guess this is where we part ways. The chief is what he is and will never get better in my opinion. Harkless in my opinion could easily become a 20 points per game scorer.
 
riverman said:
wrong....way wrong...we have nobody who can defend KD or Lebron like Chief can....nobody...when the best player in the world says he's a tough defender, I listen..Lebron praises Chiefs defense
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Every player on the team agrees that Aminu is the best defender on the team, but I guess they're all idiots.
 
dviss1 said:
could easily become
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he very well could....but so could Crabbe, Turner, Layman, Shabazz.....we don't need another shooter like we need a guy who thinks defense first...I like defensive first PFs...long time since we've had one.
 
Scalma said:
Every player on the team agrees that Aminu is the best defender on the team, but I guess they're all idiots.
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Being the best defender on the team (which he's not - players are just blowing smoke up his ass) does NOT mean he's a good defender. He's on the Blazers - a team full of below-average defenders. Aminu is the one-eyed king in a world of the blind.
 
blue9 said:
Being the best defender on the team (which he's not - players are just blowing smoke up his ass) does NOT mean he's a good defender. He's on the Blazers - a team full of below-average defenders. Aminu is the one-eyed king in a world of the blind.
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Cool story coach.
 
blue9 said:
which he's not - players are just blowing smoke up his ass
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ridiculous assessment.....I've seen him play and so have they.....if you don't like Chief for personal reasons, great, but your reasoning is not accurate
 
Neither Aminu nor Harkless are great defenders. Aminu might be the best defender on the team--it's either him or Harkless, since Ezeli doesn't count. No one else rates.
 
Scalma said:
Ok now tell me how Harkless is better
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He's more of a plus on offense at least and his athleticism gives him a chance to keep improving on defense. Aminu's shot mechanics are basically broken and probably that way for good; he is basically a finished product at his age.
 
Aminu is definitely our best defender right now, but he's also maddeningly inconsistent and erratic at both ends of the floor. Harkless is a medium risk, medium reward version of him on defense. The highs aren't as high, but the lows aren't nearly as tough to stomach, either.
 
Sinobas said:
Okafor has shown fashes of great post play.
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I'd be okay if it was Harkless + first rounder for Okafor.

But I've been high on Okafor sense his rookie season so...
 
honkicracker said:
I'd be okay if it was Harkless + first rounder for Okafor.

But I've been high on Okafor sense his rookie season so...
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Harkless for Okafor is a bad trade. Throwing in a pick would just make it insulting.
 
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