Game Thread GAME# 7: BLAZERS @ GRIZZLIES - NOVEMBER 6, 2016 - SUNDAY, 12:30 PM (PDT), CSNNW

[Boob-No-More]

For anyone that missed it, the game is being replayed right now.

BNM

 

[THE HCP]

On pace for 47 victories....

I said 46, so there's that FAMS!

 

[THE HCP]

So confused about all this hate for Aminu on here. Shit, wasn't it just last season people on here were talking about how much better he is than Nic?

 

[Natebishop3]

So confused about all this hate for Aminu on here. Shit, wasn't it just last season people on here were talking about how much better he is than Nic?

I don't think he's a power forward. That's the first problem.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

I said 46, so there's that FAMS!

Double last year, eh? When you were off, ever-so-slightly.... FAMS!

 

[H.C.]

Memphis will be battling for the 8th seed they will be nowhere near getting HCA.

If they stay healthy you & others will be surprised just how high Memphis finishes this year.
Only reason why they were so bad last year is because of the 25 different starting lineups they used.
Year before that they had a 2-1 lead over the eventual champs. That's with Conley not being 100%. Lost it when Allen's hammy acted up, the guy who was making Curry his bitch.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

So confused about all this hate for Aminu on here. Shit, wasn't it just last season people on here were talking about how much better he is than Nic?

Considering Aminu's salary for two more seasons, he's a bargain.

Says all we need to know about current NBA salaries.....

 

[H.C.]

This is an excellent win, I don't care how it happened.
Memphis is a good team, beat them in their house too.

 

[MAS RipCity]

What is the obsession with turner? I seriously don't get it.

Yes he was 0-0 with 2 turnovers.

He also had 4 assists, 1 block and 1 steal.

Meanwhile Allen Crabbe, who is on an arguably worse contract, was a -4 and only attempted 4 shots. We are paying him to score. That's why we signed him. Meyers also only attempted 4 shots, but he only played 11 minutes.

I am more concerned about crabbe than I am about turner. He has been here. He shouldn't need to adapt to the system. He is also on a contract that's more difficult to move.

To be fair with Crabbe, we are running zero plays for him. Seriously, it looks like rookie Batum out there: Stand in the corner and wait for a pass to come your way.

 

[Darkwebs]

Why is the Grizz mascot the color blue?

I assume it's a pun. "The Memphis Blues" is a song and Memphis blues is a musical genre as well. So I'm guessing that's why the Grizzlies chose a couple shade of blues for their team colors.

 

[Darkwebs]

To be fair, he chose where to go... we didn't really have anything to do with that.

I had to leave the house after the first quarter and now just finished the game on DVR. What a splendid finish! CJ brought his A game. Hopefully, he can continue his hot shooting next game. And I hope Dame's injury isn't anything major.

Anyway, take this for what it's worth, but while I was watching the game, an acquaintance of mine sat down and watched the 2nd half with me. He claimed to know someone who knows someone with insider knowledge (yeah, I know) and said that back in the summer, Olshey had reviewed the medical report on Parsons' knee and didn't like what he saw (especially at that price tag). That's why we didn't sign him. Supposedly, Parsons wanted to sign here, but Olshey told Parsons' agent to have him sign with Memphis instead. So the reports that Parsons chose Memphis over us is stretching the truth; we were the ones that rejected him.

That would makes sense because:

1. Our team should/would have been more attractive than Memphis. The Blazers are a young and exciting team on the rise, who play a fun, fast-paced style of basketball, while the Grizzlies are an old team, possibly on the decline.
2. Parsons' right knee was clearly not in good shape, since he is finally playing on court for the first time since surgery in March.
3. Parsons came back a earlier than expected, just in time to play us. What a coincidence. And he looked like utter crap tonight, obviously not ready for prime time yet.

Just thought I throw that out there. As I said before, take it with a grain of salt, especially since it's a second-hand account of a second-hand account.

 

[RipCityDSCPL]

If they stay healthy you & others will be surprised just how high Memphis finishes this year.
Only reason why they were so bad last year is because of the 25 different starting lineups they used.
Year before that they had a 2-1 lead over the eventual champs. That's with Conley not being 100%. Lost it when Allen's hammy acted up, the guy who was making Curry his bitch.

And now I will laugh some more.

 

[KingSpeed]

If they stay healthy you & others will be surprised just how high Memphis finishes this year.
Only reason why they were so bad last year is because of the 25 different starting lineups they used.
Year before that they had a 2-1 lead over the eventual champs. That's with Conley not being 100%. Lost it when Allen's hammy acted up, the guy who was making Curry his bitch.

That Grizzlies team is older now. Carter is 40. Randolph doesn't start anymore. Their window is closed.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Parsons is no Layman.

 

[KingSpeed]

What is the obsession with turner? I seriously don't get it.

Yes he was 0-0 with 2 turnovers.

He also had 4 assists, 1 block and 1 steal.

Meanwhile Allen Crabbe, who is on an arguably worse contract, was a -4 and only attempted 4 shots. We are paying him to score. That's why we signed him. Meyers also only attempted 4 shots, but he only played 11 minutes.

I am more concerned about crabbe than I am about turner. He has been here. He shouldn't need to adapt to the system. He is also on a contract that's more difficult to move.

You're the one who is obsessed. You're obsessed with defending a guy who doesn't deserve it.

 

[RipCityDSCPL]

That Grizzlies team is older now. Carter is 40. Randolph doesn't start anymore. Their window is closed.

Exactly. (Wish there was a one foot in the grave emoji.)

 

[Trackjack]

Memphis got 3 starter on players there controlling there minutes.

 

[BlayZa]

It's time for terry to switch up the rotation. Aminu is fucking awful. Start crabbe and move harkless to the four, or start vonleh. Something needs to change though.

its a quandary, the starting unit is 'mostly' playing decently, but it seems everyone not named Dame is taking turns shitting the bed, and Aminu seems to be doing a little more sheet bleaching than everyone else.

I love Mo's style of play, but we gotta be ready to put people on the pine when they are sucking, although putting in Turner or Crabbe hasn't been anything close to a solution of any sorts thus far.

I think we also need to look at switching things up, Dame - CJ - Mo - Noah - Plum could be something to trial.

I was overwhelmingly against Noah starting and getting like 13mins a game last year, but i think he's put in the work and deserves another shot at starter minutes, but none of this gratuitous 'starter' badge shit.

 

[Sarni]

What I like about being 4-3 at this point with some nice road victories is that we are clearly nowhere near our best and only Lillard has been consistently good (CJ had an amazing night yesterday but otherwise he has been going from average to good). I like the improvement from Harkless, our frontcourt has been diabolical but Plumlee has been generally fine. The team is clearly still looking to settle and find form, so it's nice to have a positive record after 7 games with this being nowhere near our best yet.

Aminu has been pretty hopeless though. I would expect him to be first on the trade block.

 

[Blazer4ever]

What if we trade Aminu and Ed Davis. Really just to consolidate the front-line but lets say we bring a 15mpg shooting or combo guard in return.
Then we use Crabbe and Turner only at SF, Harkless plays both forward positions. Leonard and Vonleh at PF and Plumlee and Ezeli at Center. We play Dame and CJ in the backcourt with Napier and the other guard we bring as their replacements.
Makes much more sense than what we have now

 

[BonesJones]

What if we trade Aminu and Ed Davis. Really just to consolidate the front-line but lets say we bring a 15mpg shooting or combo guard in return.
Then we use Crabbe and Turner only at SF, Harkless plays both forward positions. Leonard and Vonleh at PF and Plumlee and Ezeli at Center. We play Dame and CJ in the backcourt with Napier and the other guard we bring as their replacements.
Makes much more sense than what we have now

No, it makes no sense. Leonard isn't a PF at all, and would get burnt. Vonleh is still developing.

How do we find enough minutes for Crabbe and Turner if they're only playing SF and Harkless is playing both forwards?

 

[Boob-No-More]

What if we trade Aminu and Ed Davis. Really just to consolidate the front-line but lets say we bring a 15mpg shooting or combo guard in return.
Then we use Crabbe and Turner only at SF, Harkless plays both forward positions. Leonard and Vonleh at PF and Plumlee and Ezeli at Center. We play Dame and CJ in the backcourt with Napier and the other guard we bring as their replacements.
Makes much more sense than what we have now

I think it would be a disaster. We're already getting killed on the boards, and you want to trade our two best rebounder's for a back up SG?

We're currently 24th in the league in TRB% and getting out rebounded by over 7 boards per game. Trade those two guys without getting a solid rebounding big in return and we'd be the worst rebounding team in the league - and that has never been, nor ever will be, a recipe for success at the NBA, or any other level.

BNM

 

[Sarni]

What if we trade Aminu and Ed Davis. Really just to consolidate the front-line but lets say we bring a 15mpg shooting or combo guard in return.
Then we use Crabbe and Turner only at SF, Harkless plays both forward positions. Leonard and Vonleh at PF and Plumlee and Ezeli at Center. We play Dame and CJ in the backcourt with Napier and the other guard we bring as their replacements.
Makes much more sense than what we have now

The more I see us play, the more I think that we will need a little bit more shuffling to get where we should ideally aspire to be. We definitely need another frontcourt player, absolutely zero question about it - right now I'd probably prefer it to be a power forward than center, even though there don't seem to be too many good power forwards available at all. At center we can get by with Plumlee and Ezeli, at power forward we are basically hopeless - unless, of course, we decided to develop Vonleh who really appears to be one of the most talented 4s below 25 in the league now.

A guard would not be bad either. There will be more of them available too. But a frontcourt players is an absolute MUST.

 

[Sarni]

I think it would be a disaster. We're already getting killed on the boards, and you want to trade our two best rebounder's for a back up SG?

We're currently 24th in the league in TRB% and getting out rebounded by over 7 boards per game. Trade those two guys without getting a solid rebounding big in return and we'd be the worst rebounding team in the league - and that has never been, nor ever will be, a recipe for success at the NBA, or any other level.

BNM

If Ezeli can stay fit, our rebounding will get much better. Actually if Plumlee could learn power forward role, the two of them together could actually be good. Would still prefer to go for a standard power forward, but as I said, there's such a shortage of them in the market. You look at any other position and you can name 10 players you would easily be happy with, most of whom will be available for a price. At power forward there's jack all, there's Aldridge who we won't have back, Green who we won't get, Millsap who's old, Bosh who's sick, Parker and Porzingis who are very promising but ungettable and a load of average players who are barely any upgrade. At this point I might even be happy with Kenneth Faried.

This is why it is IMO so important to give Noah Vonleh more time. He really is one of the most promising power forwards in the league in his age category, obviously behind Jabari and Zinger but still very, very good talent. We might regret not giving him more chances, really.

 

[Natebishop3]

This is kinda what you said a couple years ago when you told me Memphis would never get out of the first round again.
Yet they did.

Who is this aimed at?

 

[H.C.]

That Grizzlies team is older now. Carter is 40. Randolph doesn't start anymore. Their window is closed.

This is so very similar to a couple years ago when you were dead set in the opinion that Memphis sucked and would never get out of the first round again.
I forget, did they get out of the first round, then pull off a 2-1 lead against the Warriors before the injuries to their starting backcourt caught up to them?
Pretty sure that's exactly what happened ~

Who is this aimed at?

Lemme fix it so it's more fun Nate. & jinxspeed is who i quoted.

 

[Natebishop3]

This is so very similar to a couple years ago when you were dead set in the opinion that Memphis sucked and would never get out of the first round again.
I forget, did they get out of the first round, then pull off a 2-1 lead against the Warriors before the injuries to their starting backcourt caught up to them?
Pretty sure that's exactly what happened ~

Lemme fix it so it's more fun Nate. & jinxspeed is who i quoted.

Ah. Carry on.

 

[Blazer4ever]

No, it makes no sense. Leonard isn't a PF at all, and would get burnt. Vonleh is still developing.

How do we find enough minutes for Crabbe and Turner if they're only playing SF and Harkless is playing both forwards?

If they're our only SFs and Harkless plays SF only part time, they'd get more minutes than they do now and in their more natural position

 

[Blazer4ever]

I think it would be a disaster. We're already getting killed on the boards, and you want to trade our two best rebounder's for a back up SG?

We're currently 24th in the league in TRB% and getting out rebounded by over 7 boards per game. Trade those two guys without getting a solid rebounding big in return and we'd be the worst rebounding team in the league - and that has never been, nor ever will be, a recipe for success at the NBA, or any other level.

BNM

If they're our best rebounders and we're not very good maybe we need to go another direction, like fixing our rotations and playing more natural bigs for more minutes. Leonard and Vonleh hardly get any playing time and I don't see neither Aminu nor Davis playing amazing basketball, far from it

 

[Blazer4ever]

The more I see us play, the more I think that we will need a little bit more shuffling to get where we should ideally aspire to be. We definitely need another frontcourt player, absolutely zero question about it - right now I'd probably prefer it to be a power forward than center, even though there don't seem to be too many good power forwards available at all. At center we can get by with Plumlee and Ezeli, at power forward we are basically hopeless - unless, of course, we decided to develop Vonleh who really appears to be one of the most talented 4s below 25 in the league now.

A guard would not be bad either. There will be more of them available too. But a frontcourt players is an absolute MUST.

We don't necessarily need a new inside player. IMO we need to go a different direction in using the players we already have. Vonleh, Leonard, Harkless would be a very good PF rotation IMO