Gary Payton II Trade to the Warriors (1 Viewer)

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Warrior stans are dragging the Blazers on social media right now, but something doesn't pass the smell test. The biggest thing being GPII sat so long for a guy being rushed back and even got plenty of rest after he did. If he was being rushed back, not sure why it took until Jan. 10 for the Blazers to force him to suddenly play ... and still let him sit out two games after that.
 
Chris Craig said:
Could this be a play by the Warriors to get GP for cheaper? Rescind the deal, have GP then be bought out by the Blazers (there is no way he will still play here with all this), then sign him for cheap off the buyout market?
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That would cost them A LOT of money. And Blazers could play hardball by not buying him out but just sending him away for the season to "recuperate". Then they could trade him in the offseason.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
That would cost them A LOT of money. And Blazers could play hardball by not buying him out but just sending him away for the season to "recuperate". Then they could trade him in the offseason.
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How much of the trade can be re-negotiated after the deadline? Do all 4 teams have to stay involved? Can other players be added/removed?
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Yeah, I'm inclined to agree. The whole "forcing him to play" thing sounds dubious. Mind you, he did keep saying he was still in pain and we were getting more or less antsy. He could genuinely have felt pressured into playing. Weird that he and Dame both had similar injuries. I can't remember ever hearing about such an injury before Dame.
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Nas had it too. He seems fine. "Pain" by itself could mean any number of things, and it's also possible to have pain but be cleared to play. So who the fuck nows.

Chris Craig said:
Great. All we need are more reasons for players not to want to come here.
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Actually, the main reason I'm inclined to burn Cronin/FO right now is BECAUSE of the players. Players tend to support each other, regardless of situation, and we know Payton was supposedly close to a lot of the guys on the team (Dame, Grant, etc.). Yet NONE of them seemed to give a single shit that he's gone. It's possible the players didn't know what was going on with Gary, but I doubt that. They've been with him for months.
 
pretty sleazy of GS and Shams tbh. but the ultimate fault lies on Joe for signing him in the first place.
 
Tince said:
How much of the trade can be re-negotiated after the deadline? Do all 4 teams have to stay involved? Can other players be added/removed?
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Keith Smith says it cannot be renegotiated. I'd trust him, works for Spotrac and has worked in the FO of NBA teams before.
 
And I also guarantee GP was chatting with GS players this whole season. They are tight. Acting like they had no clue about his health status is the epitome of being disingenuous. Seems like retribution for us signing him away.
 
B-Roy said:
Nas had it too. He seems fine. "Pain" by itself could mean any number of things, and it's also possible to have pain but be cleared to play. So who the fuck nows.



Actually, the main reason I'm inclined to burn Cronin/FO right now is BECAUSE of the players. Players tend to support each other, regardless of situation, and we know Payton was supposedly close to a lot of the guys on the team (Dame, Grant, etc.). Yet NONE of them seemed to give a single shit that he's gone. It's possible the players didn't know what was going on with Gary, but I doubt that. They've been with him for months.
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Yeah, it seems like he would have said somethin...but then again maybe not.
 
I bet this deal goes through. It has huge tax implications for 3 teams involved. Without it:

GSW pays more tax.
Portland goes into the tax.
Atlanta goes into the tax.

Lots of pressure on GSW to approve the deal, not to mention the human element of Gary actually wanting to be a Warrior. But like mentioned before, bad feelings could have been the motivating factor for leaking this detail.
 
theprunetang said:
And I also guarantee GP was chatting with GS players this whole season. They are tight. Acting like they had no clue about his health status is the epitome of being disingenuous. Seems like retribution for us signing him away.
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Anyone who paused for 10 seconds to think about this situation has to realize it doesn't pass the smell test.
 
One note that came out yesterday:

The "minutes restriction" that was told to the media came from Gary, not the team.
 
Shaboid said:
We "rushed" him back to play how many minutes? What a baby.
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Would love to go back to a time machine and tell this board in December that the February narrative would be that GP2 got rushed back too soon!
 
wizenheimer said:
same agent or same agency?

delete the agent from it then...Payton and the Warriors working the PR?
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With how much shit leaked (from the Blazers side) yesterday about Gary having issues with players/the team and how much he didn't want to be here, I'm betting that was part of the motivation to get this story out and explain his side.
 
By the way, they gave Gary a million fucking years to come back. It was Gary in the pre-season media availability that said he would be back by the start of the season, not the team. That ended up dragging out 3 months.
 
Here's the other interesting thing I see tracking on the GPII social media stuff ... all these Warriors stans who are saying the Blazers need investigated and are a horrible organization based on just his word at this point also are still like "just let the deal go through, anyway."

So you're saying your guy is hurt, was mistreated, etc., buuuuuuuuut you still want the trade to stand as is?

Like I said, doesn't pass the smell test. This comes off more as a parting shot from a bitter player than a situation where the Blazers put a gun to his head.

I guess another thing I'd ask GPII if I could was "OK, why did you play at all, then?" And it's hard for him to say he just wanted to get back onto the court, because he still was missing games after he came back. And I don't see the Blazers' incentives to force him to play when he was contributing so little.

The Blazers are going to take a PR hit here and I haven't seen any confirmation yet to suggest it's warranted.
 
also, wasn't he STILL under a minutes restriction and Chauncey so strictly wanted to abide by it?

that was very obviously public info
 
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