Gary Payton II Trade to the Warriors

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Massive disaster if somehow the trade gets voided. Returning to the team after all that was said. We would need to pay to dump him after....

Also if this gets voided I think we are in the luxury tax aren't we?
 
I don't know what I've posted about this trade (which HOPEFULLY happens), but:
  • The Blazers needed to get size in the off-season, and instead we signed Payton
  • Payton is not a very good player. He's been on the verge of bouncing out of the NBA many times, and he's almost never healthy. He had a good stretch on Golden State, who has a pretty good team with or without him
  • I never saw a situation where Payton was going to help the Blazers much
  • I had no idea he was having interpersonal issues--I don't pay attention to body language of professional basketball players and/or try to read minds, which means that sometimes I miss that sort of thing
  • I don't know how much value the second rounders we will (hopefully!) receive have, but it's more than keeping Payton on the roster
  • I would rather have taken a chance on Wiseman than take those picks
  • I don't know what big guy we could have added instead of Payton in the offseason, but I strongly suspect the team would be better now if we had signed someone decent with that money
Hopefully the trade goes through and we can root against him as a Warrior :)
 
Had Cronin made this trade a week or two before the deadline, like he did last year, he'd have more time to work around this.

Guess waiting until the last minute isn't always the best move!
 
Tince said:
Or Golden St has us by the balls and are looking to extract extra compenstation knowing a voided trade puts Jody into the tax.

The Warriors have all the power.
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What even are the rules for this? It's past the deadline, can they amend the trade?



Conspiracy theory would say Payton is the cause of this. Reports are he had issues with the doctors that cleared him and he thought he wasn't ready. But he was clearly playing games anyways, maybe he's taking a different "approach" with the Warriors training staff?
 
Tince said:
Or Golden St has us by the balls and are looking to extract extra compenstation knowing a voided trade puts Jody into the tax.

The Warriors have all the power.
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They do? If this trade fails, they get an extra how many $ on their tax because Wiseman goes back there, no?
 
andalusian said:
They do? If this trade fails, they get an extra how many $ on their tax because Wiseman goes back there, no?
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Blazers would be in the tax as well. Meaning if they made a big move this summer, they'd be in repeater tax territory.

The Warriors ownereship group have shown a willingness to pay the tax. Portland has not.
 
They knew he just came back from Ab surgery. They wanted him back.
 
Tince said:
Blazers would be in the tax as well. Meaning if they made a big move this summer, they'd be in repeater tax territory.

The Warriors ownereship group have shown a willingness to pay the tax. Portland has not.
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Sure, but the reality is that this trade saves GSW tons of money, so they do not have all the power here - $100m or so in 2 years is no small chunk of change, even for GSW, especially in a time of financial uncertainty.
 
“Payton, according to sources, had been playing through pain in Portland. Sources added that the Blazers training staff had been pushing him to guy through it, giving him Toradol shots. This had not been relayed to the Warriors during the negotiation process”

 


This was a surprise revelation to the Warriors during the intake process. There have been behind the scenes discussions on Friday about the possibility of amendments to the trade — or fully reversal of the deal. The amount of parties involved (four teams, four players) complicates matters.

Payton, according to sources, had been playing through pain in Portland. Sources added that the Blazers training staff had been pushing him to gut through it, giving him Toradol shots. This had not been relayed to the Warriors during the negotiation process.
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What the FUCK?
 
AWK-WARD

WELCOME BACK, GARY! Sorry about the whole shooting-you-full-of-painkillers-and-pushing-you-on-the-court thing
 
I blame Cronin and Jody for this and even more of a reason one should be fired and the other needs to sell ASAP
 
When did he get this injury? Presumably when playing for Golden State, right? So it's only fair they should have to keep him.
 
What a fuck up
 
OneSport3 said:
“Payton, according to sources, had been playing through pain in Portland. Sources added that the Blazers training staff had been pushing him to guy through it, giving him Toradol shots. This had not been relayed to the Warriors during the negotiation process”

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100% on Cronin
 
it could definitely be a bad look for Portland....but...

"according to sources"....who are these sources? Is this all Payton and his agent?
 
wizenheimer said:
it could definitely be a bad look for Portland....but...

"according to sources"....who are these sources? Is this all Payton and his agent?
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Cronin alluding to that.

Remind everyone this is only ONE side of the story: the Warriors and Gary's. Of course it's going to look bad.
 
Cronin pushed back on the report that Payton was pushed to play when he wasn't healthy. "These reports... If you knew our clearance process, it was proper."

"We had a pretty long ramp up and he was cleared. A lot of of build up to get him safely back."
 
Honestly if this is the scandal needed to fire Joe and force Jody to sell the team, GP2 may have just saved the Blazers.
 
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