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Lanny said:
Source that's won some journalism accolades.
"Awards
  • In 2012, The Huffington Post won the Pulitzer Prize in the category of national reporting for senior military correspondent David Wood's 10-part series about wounded veterans, Beyond the Battlefield.
  • The Huffington Post is 2010 People's Voice Winner in the 14th Webby Awards and is the Winner in Lead411's New York City Hot 125. The Huffington Post lost the 2010 Webby Award jury prize for Best Political Blog to Truthdig.
  • The Huffington Post received a Peabody Award in 2010 for "Trafficked: A Youth Radio Investigation."
  • The Huffington Post was named second among the 25 Best Blogs of 2009 by Time.
  • The Huffington Post won the 2006 and 2007 Webby Awards for Best Politics Blog.
  • The Huffington Post contributor Bennet Kelley was awarded the Los Angeles Press Club's 2007 Southern California Journalism Award for Online Commentary for political commentary published on the site.
  • The Huffington Post is ranked the most powerful blog in the world by The Observer.
  • The Huffington Post co-founder Arianna Huffington was named in 2009 as number 12 in Forbes' first ever list of the Most Influential Women In Media. The same year, she was ranked as number 42 in The Guardian's Top 100 in Media List.
  • In 2015, The Huffington Post was nominated for the Responsible Media of the Year award at the British Muslim Awards"
Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HuffPost

Now, compare that with Fox News which has zero accolades, ZERO
In fact, Fox News has a bevy of controversies.

Now, which one is light years ahead of the other in credibility?
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Well, what do we do now?
Huffpost (good) telling us what Fox (bad) says....
https://www.yahoo.com/news/andrew-napolitano-criminal-trump-033022943.html

Mind blown
 
MARIS61 said:
No, they make that determination, not me.

But if some criminals think stealing my possessions is worth losing their own lives, maybe their lives aren't of much value to anyone.

Bottom line, criminals can't ever be trusted and the worst must always be assumed when they threaten you or yours. Anyone breaking into my home would be assumed to be there to murder people, and dealt with accordingly.
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Amazing that I am 64 years old and have NEVER been in a situation where I have felt I needed a gun. Same with my dad and his dad. And we all lived in that crime ridden city called Portland. Are you the George Zimmerman of La Pine? :biglaugh:
 
CupWizier said:
Amazing that I am 64 years old and have NEVER been in a situation where I have felt I needed a gun. Same with my dad and his dad. And we all lived in that crime ridden city called Portland. Are you the George Zimmerman of La Pine? :biglaugh:
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So I don't know if I needed a gun or not, but when I was 20 I was robbed at gunpoint by two Black guys. I only say they were Black because of shame, for at least a couple weeks after that I think every time I saw a couple of black guys out walking I would get really nervous... I had to make a conscious decision that hey just because those two guys did that doesn't mean two white guys couldn't have done that and it doesn't mean all Black guys are like that. I feel so bad about how easy it was to make me kind of racist. :(... I'm glad I stopped myself before it went any further, but I still feel bad about it.

Also in St. Johns where I grew up, we had a cocaine dealer across the street and it was fairly common for gang members and drug busts and police running through our yard or people banging on the door in the middle of the night wanting in. I mean by fairly common it was probably 10-15 times the entire 14 years we lived there so I guess it wasn't an everyday occurrence, we didn't own a gun though.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Also in St. Johns where I grew up, we had a cocaine dealer across the street and it was fairly common for gang members and drug busts and police running through our yard or people banging on the door in the middle of the night wanting in. I mean by fairly common it was probably 10-15 times the entire 14 years we lived there so I guess it wasn't an everyday occurrence, we didn't own a gun though.
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That tracks. My brother was injured in a gang shooting in St Johns, 3/31/92. Major event in our lives, to be sure.

But not a gun owner. I'm a terrible Republican.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
Leaving your doors unlocked is living dangerously.

Posting that on a forum where most people know your name and what you look like is really dangerous.
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All you have to fear from me is that I'll maybe steal a beer from your frig. Yeah, I'm that brazen. Of course we'd be watching a Blazer game together and there's no way I could keep up with you.
 
tlongII said:
I've been shot at in Beaverton interestingly enough.
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I've only been shot at in combat. Else, a big fat zero.
I have had a knife pulled on me and stuck up to my gut without penetrating. I was so pissed I didn't have time to get scared which is the way it was in combat.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
That tracks. My brother was injured in a gang shooting in St Johns, 3/31/92. Major event in our lives, to be sure.

But not a gun owner. I'm a terrible Republican.
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Not at all, you, like me, are an old school Republican back when the party had scruples.
 
dviss1 said:
You don't live here so how the fuck would you know? I rarely lock my door.

And stop bringing up my son. I've done a great job of protecting him for 12 years without a firearm.

You love your life in fear. I don't.
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We never owned a key to our front door until I was out of the Army.
Likewise, we never took the keys out of our car until I was about 16.
I remember how my dad left the keys in his pickup truck that he used for work because other people might have to gain access where our truck was in the way and instead of taking us away from what we needed to do the other driver would jump in our truck and move it out of the way. Everybody on the job did that.
It's a different world today.
 
MARIS61 said:
You're being silly now.

NOBODY leaves their doors unlocked in Portland.

Never mind your possessions, you have a son.

I sure hope you've got a better plan B than you're letting on because violent crime isn't exactly decreasing in Portland.
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Wanna bet?
 
dviss1 said:
I don't own a firearm nor do I need one.

I leave my car and house unlocked and I live in the city.

If someone took some of my belongings, I have insurance. They can have them. I'll call the police. I would hate to end someone's life over a material possession I can reacquire...
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If I had a gun handy I'd shoot someone breaking into my house while I was home. Fortunately, I only own a hunting rifle and a shotgun and keep the ammunition well hidden so it would probably take me ten or fifteen minutes to find the ammo, load the firearm and take a well aimed shot. You can see, I'm not terribly worried about it.

One time about 50 years ago my mother and father were cleaning up a rental a renter had left. They called me at home and asked me to bring some cleaning supplies. I did and when I got to the rental my brother and I rushed up the stairs to the front door and immediately entered looking from my parents. I crossed the living room and entered the dining room expecting to see my parents in the kitchen. Wow, there was a family sitting down to dinner. They looked extremely surprised as was I and my brother. Had they been trigger happy, I'd be dead now. I was relatively young and made a blunder, not worth killing me because of my honest error.

Yep, you need to be very careful before you take a shot with the intention of killing someone.
 
tlongII said:
If you point a gun at someone and attempt to rob them then death is on the table.
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I can't argue with that. However, make sure you know what you're doing.
 
Lanny said:
I've only been shot at in combat. Else, a big fat zero.
I have had a knife pulled on me and stuck up to my gut without penetrating. I was so pissed I didn't have time to get scared which is the way it was in combat.
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I got carded buying beer.

Multiple times.

barfo
 
MARIS61 said:
Do you wear a seatbelt, avoid oncoming traffic, swat a wasp landing on your shoulder, bundle up on a cold day, wash your hands after excreting?
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I'm assuming you do these things at the same time?
 
Lanny said:
Holy crapola, don't stop there. Fill us in!
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It was many years ago. In a parking lot with my Korean friend and he and some other Korean had a verbal confrontation. Dude pulled a gun out and shot at us. Fortunately he missed.
 
tlongII said:
It was many years ago. In a parking lot with my Korean friend and he and some other Korean had a verbal confrontation. Dude pulled a gun out and shot at us. Fortunately he missed.
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A local Korean restaurant? Which one, I want to tell my wife.
 
Lanny said:
We never owned a key to our front door until I was out of the Army.
Likewise, we never took the keys out of our car until I was about 16.
I remember how my dad left the keys in his pickup truck that he used for work because other people might have to gain access where our truck was in the way and instead of taking us away from what we needed to do the other driver would jump in our truck and move it out of the way. Everybody on the job did that.
It's a different world today.
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So true.

Growing up in Lake Oswego back when it was a quiet little Mayberry community of around 7,000 or so extremely nice people was Great!

Luckily, President Trump is making America great again! :cheers:
 
CupWizier said:
Amazing that I am 64 years old and have NEVER been in a situation where I have felt I needed a gun. Same with my dad and his dad. And we all lived in that crime ridden city called Portland. Are you the George Zimmerman of La Pine? :biglaugh:
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Well, I assume your mother's basement windows have bars and she doesn't let you go outside. So of course you don't need a gun.

The content of your posts tells us all we need to know about your intellectual curiosity, so I wouldn't expect you to have any situation at all other than sittin'.

In my younger days, when I was raising a family in Portland, I was shot at on 2 separate occasions.

Back before cell phones, my wife and 2 pre-teen sons found ourselves in an hour-long, armed standoff against 2 drunk/high poachers looking for revenge in remote eastern Oregon, after my son and I reported them for shooting a doe in the middle of the highway as we were driving towards them the previous evening.

All 3 times I was carrying but quite luckily for the perpetrators I did not shoot them, although I decided long ago it was a mistake and an extremely risky gamble to my family that I held back in the standoff. It could have easily gone bad and I should have killed them both at first chance. Just got incredibly lucky, which is sort of how my whole life has been.

But this thread isn't about guns, necessarily, just Good people vs Bad people.

They are easy to tell apart.
 
MARIS61 said:
Absolutely!

https://www.kxl.com/fbi-violent-crimes-increasing-in-oregon/

What did I win? :dunno: Seems everybody loses when local government instigates and then ignores crime.
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We live in Lake Oswego and we frequently leave our doors unlocked.
When we lived in NW Portland we never owned a key to our front door until we sold the house to Bud Clark in 1968. The house was sold without a key to the front door. Bud doesn't have one now because he sold the house.
I don't recognize your link although it might be to KXL radio. We used to know a DJ there back in the late 50s and through out most of the 60s until I went in the Army and we lost touch. They had a gorgeous daughter whom I had a crush on.
As for statistics, we all know they've gotten increasingly accurate due to more and better reporting. Back in the 50s a hell of a lot of crime went unreported.
 
MARIS61 said:
Ah yes, the Nixon years...:biglaugh:
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No, I was thinking of guys like Mark Hatfield, Tom McCall, Nelson Rockefeller, Dwight Eisenhower, George H. W. Bush, William F. Buckley Jr. and George Will.
I once shook hands with Richard Nixon, been trying to wash it off ever since. Also shook hands with John F. Kennedy and Nelson Rockefeller. Got to talk to Rockefeller when I was on leave in Portland fresh back from combat.
 
MARIS61 said:
Well, I assume your mother's basement windows have bars and she doesn't let you go outside. So of course you don't need a gun.

The content of your posts tells us all we need to know about your intellectual curiosity, so I wouldn't expect you to have any situation at all other than sittin'.

In my younger days, when I was raising a family in Portland, I was shot at on 2 separate occasions.

Back before cell phones, my wife and 2 pre-teen sons found ourselves in an hour-long, armed standoff against 2 drunk/high poachers looking for revenge in remote eastern Oregon, after my son and I reported them for shooting a doe in the middle of the highway as we were driving towards them the previous evening.

All 3 times I was carrying but quite luckily for the perpetrators I did not shoot them, although I decided long ago it was a mistake and an extremely risky gamble to my family that I held back in the standoff. It could have easily gone bad and I should have killed them both at first chance. Just got incredibly lucky, which is sort of how my whole life has been.

But this thread isn't about guns, necessarily, just Good people vs Bad people.

They are easy to tell apart.
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You know what they say about ass u me.
As for the perps, maybe you should have shot them. You might have saved someone else some grief.
I can't say a lot about your experiences because I wasn't there but I would feel at least some relief that no one got shot in any of the three instances.
 
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