Harden trade?

[Big Dog]

That’s very mature of you, it’s great to see!

thank you. It's really easy to do rather than try and start something with a poster. Have a nice day.

 

[Scalma]

Man if Harden starts the season with Houston, Miami might be able to put together a package near the deadline. They have a bunch of expirings and Herro to offer along with picks. Not sure that’s good enough for Houston but maybe?

 

[blazerkor]

Man if Harden starts the season with Houston, Miami might be able to put together a package near the deadline. They have a bunch of expirings and Herro to offer along with picks. Not sure that’s good enough for Houston but maybe?

If they do that they trade Tucker for a young player(s) and/or draft assets. I think they'd also likely look for an expiring or expiring contracts, young talent and draft assets for Wall. That trade would really have to change their entire approach. I might do it though. Total rebuild around Herro, Wood and House along with all of the picks, young players and cap room.

 

[Buffalo Custard]

OK, I have a dumb question.

If Harden is determined to get out of Houston, why did they trade Westbrook for Wall? The assumption at the time was that they did it to get Harden to stay. Was it just a miscalculation or was there another motive?

 

[BonesJones]

Much more than what was proposed in this thread.

Such as?

 

[Big Dog]

Such as?

lol. you are trying so hard. I simply think it will take a lot more than CJ, Collins, Ant and a first round pick.If you think that's good enough, then that's entirely your right. Funny that you said "no" to acquiring Harden and now trying hard to force me into something I'm not going to do.

 

[BonesJones]

lol. you are trying so hard. I simply think it will take a lot more than CJ, Collins, Ant and a first round pick.If you think that's good enough, then that's entirely your right. Funny that you said "no" to acquiring Harden and now trying hard to force me into something I'm not going to do.

Two words = trying hard?

 

[Big Dog]

Two words = trying hard?

no, repeatedly pushing an agenda is trying to hard. Do we really need to go down this road? <rhetorical question and no need for a response>

 

[Chris Craig]

He says he is cool going to Milwaukee or Miami now

 

[twobullz]

They should ship him to Cleveland or Detroit.

 

[BonesJones]

no, repeatedly pushing an agenda is trying to hard. Do we really need to go down this road? <rhetorical question and no need for a response>

I'm literally just asking you what you think the return would be....

 

[KSF-ERIC]

They should ship him to Cleveland or Detroit.

That would make either team a HCA in the East depending on what they give up for him.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

He says he is cool going to Milwaukee or Miami now

Can you imagine Jimmy Butler after seeing Harden take a play or 10 off defensively?

 

[BlazerWookee]

You couldn't pay me enough to root for a team with James Harden on it.

Unless they were playing the L*kers.

 

[RR7]

You couldn't pay me enough to root for a team with James Harden on it.

Unless they were playing the L*kers.

You also said you wouldn't root for the Blazers if we signed carmelo, and yet here you are.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[wizenheimer]

why would the 76ers want to pair Harden and Simmons? It just seems like one of the most awkward fits imaginable.

 

[e_blazer]

why would the 76ers want to pair Harden and Simmons? It just seems like one of the most awkward fits imaginable.

Yeah, but maybe they want to use him to acquire another piece.

 

[wizenheimer]

Yeah, but maybe they want to use him to acquire another piece.

sure....but I can't see them offering enough without Simmons to get Harden.

 

[GrandpaBlaze]

I feel bad for the Rockets. Harden should have good trade value but they are in a place where they can ask what they feel he is worth but if nobody is offering, they have a discontented guy playing or doing whatever. With respect to Harden, it is a buyers, not a sellers market. When you are under the gun your power in negotiations is limited.

Would love to see him have to play out is contract in Houston being unhappy and a cancer in their locker room. Is that evil?

 

[B-Roy]

why would the 76ers want to pair Harden and Simmons? It just seems like one of the most awkward fits imaginable.

Why not? Morey bets on talent more than anything.

 

[blazerkor]

sure....but I can't see them offering enough without Simmons to get Harden.

I agree, maybe the word coming out of Philly that Simmons is untouchable is just to drive up his value. If I'm Philly and the Rockets think they are getting Simmons and a first rounder, let alone three first rounders and the talent it will take to match salaries... I'd be publicly saying "hell no" too.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Why does James harden even have a saying where he goes? He's locked up in contract for three more years send this fool to Cleveland!

 

[Scalma]

Why not? Morey bets on talent more than anything.

yeah Morey don’t give a fuck about fit. His mo is “give me all the stars”

 

[blazerkor]

Why does James harden even have a saying where he goes? He's locked up in contract for three more years send this fool to Cleveland!

It's because he's a star player with an attitude that makes it so teams are weary of him being in a situation he doesn't want to be in. What is he worth if he sits or half asses it? Ultimately any player that is crucial to a team's success has this power. If they want a trade they can make it happen and if they want to dictate the kind of places they want to go, they can make that happen too because no team wants to pay top dollar for half the player they should be getting.

Showing up late and not worrying about the NBA's COVID rules was just him showing the Rockets that he is serious about either not playing or phoning it in and that they better trade him. It also sends that same clear message to teams he doesn't want to go to, that he won't compromise his stance for them either. Of course the Rockets or another team could call his bluff but I for one think Harden is the type of guy to follow through with it. It makes me not want him to ever be on our team because it's symptomatic of his me first attitude but it doesn't make me resent him in general. If a person can make it happen they should choose what they do for a living and where they do it. I don't see that any differently for professional athletes.

 

[LayneStaley]

I wish they would send Harden to the Knicks, it would be Melo part 2 there.

 

[Tince]

 

[Orion Bailey]

FAF???!!!

 

[speeds]

Harden averages 78 games/season and plays pretty heavy minutes. Maybe coming into camp chonky is normal for him. I wouldn't be too concerned.

 

[Propagandist]

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30528130/james-harden-houston-rockets-breaking-point

I was in the "even though I despise him, OF COURSE you try to get a package together to get James Harden" camp, but reading this article made me realize that even Dame couldn't rein in this manchild.