Haynes full of shit (no Nic 4 years, 46.5 Million) (confirmed)

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magnifier661 said:
Ahhh okay so we can trade Batum, even though we just signed him without his permission. He hasn't been in the league for that long since he has only been in the league for 4 years right?
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correct!
 
magnifier661 said:
Ahhh okay so we can trade Batum, even though we just signed him without his permission. He hasn't been in the league for that long since he has only been in the league for 4 years right?
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Joining late, sorry

Batum can not be traded until Dec 15th

At that time, he can only be traded to someone he agrees to be traded to for 1 year

After 1 year is up, Nic can be traded anywhere we desire, accept Minnesota, where he can not be traded to for the length of the contract they offered him


What I don't know is if that is just from us, of if another team can trade him to Minnesota in a separate deal
 
Mediocre Man said:
Joining late, sorry

Batum can not be traded until Dec 15th

At that time, he can only be traded to someone he agrees to be traded to for 1 year

After 1 year is up, Nic can be traded anywhere we desire, accept Minnesota, where he can not be traded to for the length of the contract they offered him

What I don't know is if that is just from us, of if another team can trade him to Minnesota in a separate deal
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If true I did not know that! Interesting, but seems like a fair rule. See Coast's post above, since he gets more than a 20% raise, he can't be traded until January.
 
Zybot said:
If true I did not know that! Interesting, but seems like a fair rule. See Coast's post above, since he gets more than a 20% raise, he can't be traded until January.
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may depend if we go over cap?
 
Mediocre Man said:
Joining late, sorry

Batum can not be traded until Dec 15th

At that time, he can only be traded to someone he agrees to be traded to for 1 year

After 1 year is up, Nic can be traded anywhere we desire, accept Minnesota, where he can not be traded to for the length of the contract they offered him


What I don't know is if that is just from us, of if another team can trade him to Minnesota in a separate deal
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I'm not going to say I know because I really don't; but I think that is for "QO" only. If Portland matches the offer sheet, then the "QO" is null and voided and the new contract is made. If that's true, then what Coast541 said would hold true (8 years in the league before a no trade can be made). I maybe off on this though. Just what I'm interpreting.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Joining late, sorry

Batum can not be traded until Dec 15th

At that time, he can only be traded to someone he agrees to be traded to for 1 year

After 1 year is up, Nic can be traded anywhere we desire, accept Minnesota, where he can not be traded to for the length of the contract they offered him


What I don't know is if that is just from us, of if another team can trade him to Minnesota in a separate deal
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oh, I see.

For one year after exercising the right of first refusal to keep a restricted free agent. The player must consent to a trade to any team, although he cannot be traded to the team that signed him to the offer sheet.
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Mediocre Man said:
After 1 year is up, Nic can be traded anywhere we desire, except Minnesota, where he can not be traded to for the length of the contract they offered him
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FTFY.

e.g. HCP will accept tips while he's dancing on the table.
 
I sure hope the Blazers wait until the very final minutes to match; then BAM MUTHER FUCKER! You have no chance on Batum!
 
magnifier661 said:
Probably because everyone laughed their asses off at him. Grasping for straws.
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Listened to Haynes on the MSP with CIP. He spent 5 minutes trying to explain how he had known about Phil Jackson wanting to join the Blazers' FO, and how the Blazers' FO wanted PJ as coach. He kept going on about how he had this info for quite some time, and he really knew it was legit when Vecsey started pushing it out there. He was really like, "Look at me - I'm legit. In fact, 2 legit 2 quit. Hey hey!"

It was sad and pathetic.
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
Listened to Haynes on the MSP with CIP. He spent 5 minutes trying to explain how he had known about Phil Jackson wanting to join the Blazers' FO, and how the Blazers' FO wanted PJ as coach. He kept going on about how he had this info for quite some time, and he really knew it was legit when Vecsey started pushing it out there. He was really like, "Look at me - I'm legit. In fact, 2 legit 2 quit. Hey hey!"

It was sad and pathetic.
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And why does this dumb fuck have a job? Do people just hire the most annoying personalities and fuck with people?
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
Listened to Haynes on the MSP with CIP. He spent 5 minutes trying to explain how he had known about Phil Jackson wanting to join the Blazers' FO, and how the Blazers' FO wanted PJ as coach. He kept going on about how he had this info for quite some time, and he really knew it was legit when Vecsey started pushing it out there. He was really like, "Look at me - I'm legit. In fact, 2 legit 2 quit. Hey hey!"

It was sad and pathetic.
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Well, after he's been burned by Kahn so many times in the last few weeks, he's desperate to validate himself. He just dropped a giant stinking turd yesterday about the Wolves offering Williams + picks and the Blazers turning it down, which was widely disputed by other people with sources. The guy looks really bad right now.
 
magnifier661 said:
I sure hope the Blazers wait until the very final minutes to match; then BAM MUTHER FUCKER! You have no chance on Batum!
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I am secretly hoping for the following to happen

1. Nic comes for his physical and is honest with Portland about his desire to play in Minnesota

2. Portland calls Minnesota and says "let's rip up the offer sheet and complete the S&T"

3. Minnesota balks, thinking they have the upper hand and says no, so Portland reaches out to Courtney Lee and offers him a 2 year deal at whatever our cap space is, and tells Minnesota they will get neither.

4. Minnesota plays ball and deals us Williams, 1 pick and we sign Lee
 
Natebishop3 said:
Well, after he's been burned by Kahn so many times in the last few weeks, he's desperate to validate himself. He just dropped a giant stinking turd yesterday about the Wolves offering Williams + picks and the Blazers turning it down, which was widely disputed by other people with sources. The guy looks really bad right now.
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Well, Derrick Williams acknowledges it. He says he was told by his agent.

I suppose everything could be coming from the exact same source (Kahn), but that could backfire and create a lot of mistrust between the Minne players and management.
 
This thread could go on for months and months. He's full of it now, and he'll be full of it in the future.

It won't last forever because I think he'll be fired at some point.
 
I think Khan may have the last laugh. He may be laughing in the unemployment line, but he'll be laughing. It's a bitch of a contract to pay for Nico. The best face you can put on that deal is that one day, if he really makes progress, he may earn what the contract stipulates. And that trade kicker? It makes him untradable.

I'm a believer in the winner's curse. I say let him go to Minny. We're going to suck next year anyway, let's not get hamstrung by bad contracts.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
This thread could go on for months and months. He's full of it now, and he'll be full of it in the future.

It won't last forever because I think he'll be fired at some point.
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I will let it go on Friday. That is my forgiveness Fridays. I decided each day of the week should bring a different side of my outstanding personality. Thursday is thinking outside the box Thursdays
 
maxiep said:
I think Khan may have the last laugh. He may be laughing in the unemployment line, but he'll be laughing. It's a bitch of a contract to pay for Nico. The best face you can put on that deal is that one day, if he really makes progress, he may earn what the contract stipulates. And that trade kicker? It makes him untradable.

I'm a believer in the winner's curse. I say let him go to Minny. We're going to suck next year anyway, let's not get hamstrung by bad contracts.
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If Batum becomes half of what some of us believe he could become, he'll be easy to trade (but at that, why would we want to trade him). And the trade kicker.... as someone here mentioned (assuming they are correct), we have to pay that. You do realize PA is still our GM? I can't imagine he'll have a problem paying that in the right deal. Plus, it decreases each year. In 2 years, it'll be like $3.5 million. And Nick will still be a tender-25.
 
The contract makes Batum the 9th or 10th highest paid SF next year. He has the 8th best PER of SF's

It would also make him the 10th highest paid SG next year. Also his PER was 8th for SG's
 
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Mediocre Man said:
The contract makes Batum the 19th or 10th highest paid SF next year. He has the 8th best PER of SF's

It would also make him the 10th highest paid SG next year. Also his PER was 8th for SG's
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So.... you're saying he's going to be paid relatively comparable to his peers (yes, I know many of those deals were signed before the new CBA)??

And he's still only 23? So one could suppose he'll continue to grow and improve (especially with Nate gone), no?
 
maxiep said:
I think Khan may have the last laugh. He may be laughing in the unemployment line, but he'll be laughing. It's a bitch of a contract to pay for Nico. The best face you can put on that deal is that one day, if he really makes progress, he may earn what the contract stipulates. And that trade kicker? It makes him untradable.

I'm a believer in the winner's curse. I say let him go to Minny. We're going to suck next year anyway, let's not get hamstrung by bad contracts.
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I see the reasoning behind this argument and frankly it's where my head was at when this whole game of contract chicken started, but after seeing MM break down contracts for 3s around the league I'm less worried about it -- don't get me wrong I'm still worried, but it has a better than 50% chance of being at worst a slight overpay. And with the salary floor and the structure of the rest of their deals it's not that big of a deal in the long term.
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
So.... you're saying he's going to be paid relatively comparable to his peers (yes, I know many of those deals were signed before the new CBA)??

And he's still only 23? So one could suppose he'll continue to grow and improve (especially with Nate gone), no?
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Even on the new meds, it has taken everything I have not to explode on the forum and wonder why no one can get this? LOL
 
maxiep said:
I think Khan may have the last laugh. He may be laughing in the unemployment line, but he'll be laughing. It's a bitch of a contract to pay for Nico. The best face you can put on that deal is that one day, if he really makes progress, he may earn what the contract stipulates. And that trade kicker? It makes him untradable.

I'm a believer in the winner's curse. I say let him go to Minny. We're going to suck next year anyway, let's not get hamstrung by bad contracts.
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he is already worth 11 million a year statistically, if he improves at all it will be gravy...do i wish he was being paid on his rookie deal for superior production? sure i do...but i also realize that the nba is a business

and as far as the trade rumors go, if the blazers were offered dwill and turned them down, it means we love nic, and he gets that

from minnys perspective, they like batum more, but poor dwill is still there, like a cuckold...hes gonna suck this year
 
Nikolokolus said:
I see the reasoning behind this argument and frankly it's where my head was at when this whole game of contract chicken started, but after seeing MM break down contracts for 3s around the league I'm less worried about it -- don't get me wrong I'm still worried, but it has a better than 50% chance of being at worst a slight overpay. And with the salary floor and the structure of the rest of their deals it's not that big of a deal in the long term.
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This.

And a lot of teams have their star player(s) at max deals. LMA signed for below the max when we extended him a few years ago. I know it wasn't waaayyyy under the max, but ultimately, the fact that he would be maxed as a FA now, but wasn't then, does help us out a little bit in the long-term.
 
Nikolokolus said:
I see the reasoning behind this argument and frankly it's where my head was at when this whole game of contract chicken started, but after seeing MM break down contracts for 3s around the league I'm less worried about it -- don't get me wrong I'm still worried, but it has a better than 50% chance of being at worst a slight overpay. And with the salary floor and the structure of the rest of their deals it's not that big of a deal in the long term.
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ive been preaching this for months, he is worth the money
 
Mediocre Man said:
Even on the new meds, it has taken everything I have not to explode on the forum and wonder why no one can get this? LOL
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I got it (which is why I spelled it out again for everyone).

I don't get why anyone is balking at this. Is this the best deal in the world? Hell no. I wish Batum signed for minimum. But this contract does not concern me in the least - I'd be concerned if we let him walk.
 
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