Hood is good

[tlongII]

At some point this roster needs another really good to great player added to it. The point of a consolidation trade is to turn 2 or 3 of those "good" players into 1 of those really good to great players.

Edit: While adding another good player is fine (I'm not knocking the move itself), at some point a move needs to be for a forward version of Nurk (or something like that).

That would be Collins next year (I hope!).

 

[Pinwheel1]

Not just you. And it's not just last night - last night was just one of the most glaring and obvious displays of how bad he can be.

Never am quite sure who to blame that on. We sometime blame Stotts and other times blame the guards saying he is needed to help out on dribble penetration,
but for whatever reason he does not stay with his man on the perimeter. It makes no sense to me.

 

[ripcityboy]

That would be Collins next year (I hope!).

From the way it looked last night I wouldn't bet on it. Not without a shit ton of coaching and confidence. We can develop decent players in Portland. I don't know if we can do great ones. They kind of have to come with their skill set already attached.

 

[tlongII]

From the way it looked last night I wouldn't bet on it. Not without a shit ton of coaching and confidence. We can develop decent players in Portland. I don't know if we can do great ones. They kind of have to come with their skill set already attached.

He has the skill set. Just needs to get stronger.

 

[ripcityboy]

He has the skill set. Just needs to get stronger.

Damn. That's just what me dad said. I'm just worried were not getting him the right coaching. That's all. He looked so lost out there yesterday.

 

[hoopsjock]

Damn. That's just what me dad said. I'm just worried were not getting him the right coaching. That's all. He looked so lost out there yesterday.

This is what happens when you have an 11 man rotation. Now Collins is going to be turned into Meyers mentally and get pulled every time he messes up. That's not good for his development.

 

[stampedehero]

I agree with this. Part of it could also be the Spurs weren't ready for him. Teams will likely adjust. That said, Rodney can do things Nik could not. He is far better at creating a shot. He is stronger at at attacking the basket. He can bring the consistency Portland has lacked and make defenses pay. He is excited for a chance to win and get to the playoffs. Let's hope that energy continues.

He would be a choice for the caption contest.

 

[oldmangrouch]

I never understand the argument for a consolidation trade. We need a full roster and it’s good if they’re all good players, right?

Depth is nice to have, but at the end of the day quality trumps quantity. I would rather have Dame backed up by Baldwin than 2 or 3 interchangeable journeymen.

 

[tlongII]

Damn. That's just what me dad said. I'm just worried were not getting him the right coaching. That's all. He looked so lost out there yesterday.

With our excellent track record of big man coaches I have no concerns.

 

[tlongII]

Depth is nice to have, but at the end of the day quality trumps quantity. I would rather have Dame backed up by Baldwin than 2 or 3 interchangeable journeymen.

Baldwin??? He's not even as good as a journeyman.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Baldwin??? He's not even as good as a journeyman.

That's the point. Having a great starter is more important.

 

[BonesJones]

Why must you attack almost every post?

You think this is an attack? Lmao.

 

[joeBlazers]

Two words: Bank account.

The one thing about Meyers is he's a great teammate. Even if he gets benched for the remainder of the season he's going to be cheering his teammates and maintaining a good attitude.

 

[joeBlazers]

Can ONE player mess up our rotation that bad? So, he is taking minutes from Curry (PG) all the way to center (LM) ...

 

[wizenheimer]

BTW, is it just me or was Aminu's defense trash last night?

it was certainly bad in the 3rd Q. His reactions seemed to be on a .8 sec lag compared to normal. He looked surprised by a lot of the action

Harkless was bad too. I wonder if the rumors of Harkless being shopped and Aminu as a salary clearing trade affected both

 

[riverman]

To be fair, Stauskas had several months to learn the team and become oriented with the system. That game was clearly an aberration to his season and career.

Hood is being thrown into the fire. That’s not saying I expect him to perform as he did last night every night. Or be something huge for this team. I’m just saying I don’t expect what he saw to be “closer to the top”. Points-wise, he’s averaged 11-16 ppg and 3 boards over 25-30 minutes per game over his career. Seems like his stat-line last night of 14 and 3 in 25 minutes is pretty much in-line for his career.

If last night was “closer to the top” of his expecatations, then color me disappointed with this deal (I’m not disappointed).

Stauskas has never been in a scouting report...Hood has been since he was in Utah...neither were on the scouting report for their first game as a Blazer

 

[BonesJones]

I never understand the argument for a consolidation trade. We need a full roster and it’s good if they’re all good players, right?

If I explain the logic will you view it as an "attack"?

 

[riverman]

I give him credit for a lot of Gay's 3rd quarter outburst.

He was sagging off Gay on every two pt shot he took....I noticed it in the game...Gay made him pay shooting wide open jumper after jumper

 

[riverman]

Mo is looking more and more like the odd man out

 

[BrianFromWA]

https://theathletic.com/807550/2019...ow-there-will-be-challenges-for-playing-time/

Can anyone post what is said here?

Some excerpts from Quick:

After Hood’s impressive debut Thursday—14 points on 6-of-7 shooting in a win over San Antonio—the questions for the Blazers go deeper than what Hood will wear, how he will get around and when he will next see his kids...After a car service delivered Hood to the Moda Center, he played 25 minutes, and although Stotts ran out his usual starting lineup, the rotation was greatly altered. Seth Curry (seven minutes) and Zach Collins (seven minutes) felt the sharpest pinch in playing time, while Evan Turner (17 minutes), Al-Farouq Aminu (22 minutes), Maurice Harkless (15 minutes) and Meyers Leonard (10 minutes) all saw dips in their usual playing time. Jake Layman, meanwhile, surged to 31 minutes as his strong play continued.
“Honestly, it’s going to be a challenge for everybody,” Stotts said of the rotation. “It’s going to be a challenge for me, it’s going to be a challenge for the team. We kind of had a rhythm to what we were doing and that rhythm has been broken, and everybody is just going to have to be patient.”
Hood’s debut appeared so seamless that it doesn’t seem preposterous to think even better nights, and more playing time, are ahead. He was also in the middle of the game’s pivotal fourth-quarter swing, as he played alongside Damian Lillard, CJ McCollum, Layman and Jusuf Nurkic. Hood played all but 2:17 of the fourth. “He was really good,” Lillard said. “I think he showed the kind of impact he could have on our team, the kind of things he could bring to the table.”

Often what separates great teams from good teams is the ability of players to sacrifice for the betterment of the team. For the past four seasons, the Blazers have been a group that, for the most part, has been set in their ways. Guys know their roles, how many minutes they are going to play, and usually with whom they will play them. But this season, the Blazers have the addition of Hood, Layman’s emergence and Curry leading the NBA in 3-point shooting, three factors that weren’t in the picture last season, let alone two months ago.
How Stotts handles the rotation, and in turn how players deal with sacrificing either playing time or a reduced role, figures to be more critical over the final 28 games than whether the Blazers (33-21) finish seeded second, third, fourth, or lower. At first blush, it appears like it will be a process.
Curry on Thursday wasn’t interested in talking about sacrificing. “It’s hard. Hard. I just gotta do my job, stay efficient when I’m out there and just play my minutes, that’s it,” Curry said. When asked if he was worried that he won’t get enough minutes to stay in his natural rhythm, Curry was sharp.
“I’m not worried about nothing,” he said.

Hood, for his part, knows how delicate things can be on a good team. Last season, he was traded from Utah to Cleveland, and the Cavaliers caught their stride and advanced to the NBA Finals. He said he got a taste of what it is like to lose playing time as rotations shorten as the playoffs near.
“Last year, I learned that basically, if you aren’t playing well, you pretty much don’t play,” Hood said. “That’s why I’m fine with whatever here. These guys were really good before I got here, and all I want to do is win. I want to play competitive basketball and play hopefully into June. So whatever that takes — whether it’s eight minutes or 38 minutes.” Layman, who has played himself into the rotation with an active and soaring brand of basketball, says Stotts has spoken to the team about the upcoming challenges.
“Coach has done a great job communicating with us to stay patient, that lineups might change game in and game out for a little bit,” Layman said. “So he said we have to stick with it and be ready.”
Turner, who saw his playing time cut by about seven minutes, wasn’t fazed after the game, saying he has been around too long to be worried about anything other than winning.
“We have a new squad and we will have to learn our new roles,” Turner said. “The whole thing is figuring out your role, then star in your role and hopefully stay consistent. Then, go from there.”
He said he wouldn’t be surprised to see Stotts at times implement the strategy from another sport. “We might have to do stuff more football-ish — like, have some guys in for defense, then some offensive lineups,” Turner said. “But bottom line, it’s all about getting wins and figuring it out before the playoffs.”

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Just to piss everyone off....
1) Neil called Layman's "3rd year leap" before the season even started. Kudos, Neil.
2) Stotts INCREASED Layman's minutes with the addition of Hood. Kudos, Stotts.
3) Hood looking like a great pickup. Kudos, Neil.

 

[calvin natt]

This is what happens when you have an 11 man rotation. Now Collins is going to be turned into Meyers mentally and get pulled every time he messes up. That's not good for his development.

If this effects him mentally he has no shot anyway. In my opinion.

 

[BonesJones]

Just to piss everyone off....
1) Neil called Layman's "3rd year leap" before the season even started. Kudos, Neil.
2) Stotts INCREASED Layman's minutes with the addition of Hood. Kudos, Stotts.
3) Hood looking like a great pickup. Kudos, Neil.

1.) Yes, but then again he's always been confident in his picks.
2.) Kudos for common sense?
3.) After one game? I think he's a good pickup but a lot of fans seem to be saying hes looking like a good move based off one game.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Mo is looking more and more like the odd man out

If he is, it is self-inflicted. Between nagging injuries and lackluster attitude he was not someone the team could rely on. Too bad, as when he was at his best I thought he was better than Aminu.

 

[riverman]

This is what happens when you have an 11 man rotation. Now Collins is going to be turned into Meyers mentally and get pulled every time he messes up. That's not good for his development.

Collins is just having a sophomore version of the rookie wall....he'll snap out of it...Meyers rookie wall lasted 5 years

 

[Wizard Mentor]

1.) Yes, but then again he's always been confident in his picks.
2.) Kudos for common sense?
3.) After one game? I think he's a good pickup but a lot of fans seem to be saying hes looking like a good move based off one game.

1) glad you agree.
2) glad you agree. Many here thought Stotts would cut his minutes, so many were wrong.
3) so far, so good.

 

[ripcityboy]

Collins is just having a sophomore version of the rookie wall....he'll snap out of it...Meyers rookie wall lasted 5 years

I'm not surprised he hit a wall. We fired the only person on the team that gave Meyers any self confidence. And concerning basketball, Meyers has never had any. That was Neil's own damn fault. Because someone violates corporate policy and cost him some imaginary chance with Greg Monroe that never really existed.

 

[CupWizier]

1.) Yes, but then again he's always been confident in his picks.
2.) Kudos for common sense?
3.) After one game? I think he's a good pickup but a lot of fans seem to be saying hes looking like a good move based off one game.

I like what i saw in one game, but i liked the deal based on his career.

 

[riverman]

When Dame who's played against Rodney says he's a hell of a player, I'll take that perspective over anybody around here..the man knows what he's talking about

 

[hoopsjock]

2) glad you agree. Many here thought Stotts would cut his minutes, so many were wrong.

I don't know if you saw my post in the game thread but Layman only initially entered the game because Stotts asked Hood to come in and he ran back to the locker room and didn't come out for several minutes. Stotts stood around puzzled for a second before basically having to put Layman in. Once Layman got in the game it would have been impossible to take him out. Who knows if he would've even played if not for that? Hopefully Stotts learned something about the lineups that game.

If you saw what I saw there is no way you could give credit to Stotts until he shows consistently that Layman deserves to play.