Hopefully some of y'all can quit dogging Terry MF Stotts now

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OneSport3 said:
The difference between Dame and Curry has to do with both the player and coaching. Curry is the best at moving after giving up the ball. When GSW runs pick and roll, Curry will give up the ball, but he is the best in the league in moving and relocating to the open spot. They are also great at setting screens for him off the relocates to give him open looks. That's the where the coaching comes in.

Dame on the other hand, gets trapped, makes the pass and doesn't move. He just stands and watches the other 4 guys and will rarely get the ball back.
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LOL...Curry plays with Green, Durant, Iggy, & Livingston, all of whom are much better passers than any ball-handlers Portland has. Of course Curry is going to move after giving it up because he has teammates capable of finding him and making the pass. Dame doesn't have that luxury, and he hasn't had it since Batum. Portland runs almost no off-ball screens for Dame, no weak-side action, but the Warriors run them all the time for Curry

the comparison fails in the details
 
wizenheimer said:
LOL...Curry plays with Green, Durant, Iggy, & Livingston, all of whom are much better passers than any ball-handlers Portland has. Of course Curry is going to move after giving it up because he has teammates capable of finding him and making the pass. Dame doesn't have that luxury, and he hasn't had it since Batum. Portland runs almost no off-ball screens for Dame, no weak-side action, but the Warriors run them all the time for Curry

the comparison fails in the details
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If you actually read the post, I said it was a function of both Dame and coaching. The Warriors run off ball screens for Curry.
 
OneSport3 said:
If you actually read the post, I said it was a function of both Dame and coaching. The Warriors run off ball screens for Curry.
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I did read you post. I'm saying just running off ball screens isn't enough. A team needs consistently good passers to deliver the ball in those small windows and Portland has none

I would agree that Portland off-ball action is remedial, at best
 
oldmangrouch said:
Unreal. Down 3-0, facing another season ending sweep, and all some people can think of is protecting Stotts.
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It isn't losing that sucks. It's like watching someone back their Uhaul rental into their house over and over and then taking out the mailbox and a parked car on the way out.

It is a form of mental abuse that the fans have to endure.
 
Draymond Green was pushing the ball and running the break off MADE baskets! How many times as the coach do you need to see that happening before you tell someone to pick him up. Nobody was picking him up or putting any pressure on him.

Not only was Kerr outcoaching Stotts, Draymond was outcoaching Stotts.
 
OneSport3 said:
Draymond Green was pushing the ball and running the break off MADE baskets! How many times as the coach do you need to see that happening before you tell someone to pick him up. Nobody was picking him up or putting any pressure on him.

Not only was Kerr outcoaching Stotts, Draymond was outcoaching Stotts.
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By the same logic we could say:

We missed 13 FTs tonight, at what point is Stotts going to tell the players to "MAKE YOUR FREE THROWS!"
 
Tince said:
By the same logic we could say:

We missed 13 FTs tonight, at what point is Stotts going to tell the players to "MAKE YOUR FREE THROWS!"
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Not really. Picking up your man is a strategy that can easily be addressed. Making your free throws is an ability that is independent of the coach.
 
OneSport3 said:
Not really. Picking up your man is a strategy that can easily be addressed. Making your free throws is an ability that is independent of the coach.
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If you want to be technical, picking up someone or slowing them down isn't a strategy, it is a physical act (like making a FT).

Now, if Stotts said, "Our game plan is to allow Green to go coast-to-coast." that would be a strategy. I have no proof either way to say what the game plan was. It's possible that was the game plan, it's also possible the players didn't execute. If there is audio that would shed some light, or even an interview from the coaches or players, I would be open to hearing it.
 
Tince said:
If you want to be technical, picking up someone or slowing them down isn't a strategy, it is a physical act (like making a FT).

Now, if Stotts said, "Our game plan is to allow Green to go coast-to-coast." that would be a strategy. I have no proof either way to say what the game plan was. It's possible that was the game plan, it's also possible the players didn't execute. If there is audio that would shed some light, or even an interview from the coaches or players, I would be open to hearing it.
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Put it this way, if Stotts told you yourself to pick up Draymond, you could easily do that. That's a strategic move. He would be putting you in the position to execute a plan. Now, you may not have the ability to stop him but you were easily able to commit to the strategic decision of picking him up.

On the other hand, if he told you to make free throws and you don't have the ability/skill to, he could tell you anything and you would still not make the free throws. That's an ability/skill on the player that is independent of the coach.
 
I’m not a Terry fan but if anyone thinks he’s going anywhere after a WCF appearance they are high. I honestly believe Neil, Terry, and Dame are all tied together. Ride or Die, that’s what’s gonna be here(at least until new ownership takes over).
 
OneSport3 said:
Put it this way, if Stotts told you yourself to pick up Draymond, you could easily do that. That's a strategic move. He would be putting you in the position to execute a plan. Now, you may not have the ability to stop him but you were easily able to commit to the strategic decision of picking him up.

On the other hand, if he told you to make free throws and you don't have the ability/skill to, he could tell you anything and you would still not make the free throws. That's an ability/skill on the player that is independent of the coach.
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You are still intermixing skill and strategy, but that's ok.

The first issue is assuming that picking up Green full court is a good idea. I'd like to see what percentage of the time this season Green had a PF or C checking him 75ft; I'm guessing it's VERY low because I don't think the risk/reward would be in favor of the defensive team. The outcomes would be interesting if they exist.

Second, we are often crossed match with GS. When we're on offense, let's say Green is defending Aminu. Aminu might be in the corner why Green is roaming free because he doesn't respect Aminu's ability to hit a shot. Now, the rebound goes to the weakside of Aminu, he's going to be in a horrible position to pickup Green at all, let alone at 75ft.

Third, you'll typically have someone like Dame to attempt to stop anyone trying to get out in transition early like Green was doing. Problem there is that if Dame leaves Curry, we all know the outcome. Not to mention the people on here would be questioning why the strategy is to Curry is open.

I find it hard to believe that any coach is telling all five players to not pick the ball up when someone is pushing it. Again, if there is audio or some proof that allowing Draymond to go coast-to-coast was what the coaching staff wanted, I would be highly concerned. I doubt that is the case and instead we're mistaking poor execution with poor strategy.
 
Jon said:
Explain to me why he keeps his job if we get swept this series. His defensive schemes are shit, his inability to teach how to stop a double/triple team coming at his best players (hes had a year after the pelicans swept us to figure it out) and how everyone needs to shoot 3s. Its bullshit if he keeps his job after we lose next game.
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I would like to point out that toronto went to the ecf and then fired their coach thinking a new coach would get them to the promised land. Sure looks like they are feeling the “grass is greener effects”.

I dunno man. Only four coaches left and all the experts say we are the team with far less talent than the others. Yet we are here.

Isnt that in part due to coaching?

Dame doesnt do EVERYTHING for the staff. Come on now....

If were gonna fire him we need a clear upgrade Nd i don't know of anyone available aho is a clear upgrade. All the options i see are chance taking like toronto and it didn't work.
 
BonesJones said:
I think we'll clear up the Full MLE for Hood.

And Stotts may not be the reason they lost, but he's not good enough to win a championship with.
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Would Mark Few be able to take Portland to a championship? I like him as a coach.

Just curious, who available would you think could take us to a championship?
 
Hoopguru said:
Would Mark Few be able to take Portland to a championship? I like him as a coach.

Just curious, who available would you think could take us to a championship?
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I would like Mark Few, he's the guy I'd go after.
Ettore Messina, Ime Udoka, or Becky Hammon would also be good, SAS has a good freaking coaching staff!
Jay Wright?
Wes Unseld Jr

Lionel Hollins did good things with a Memphis team that isn't as talented as the Blazers are.
 
oldmangrouch said:
Unreal. Down 3-0, facing another season ending sweep, and all some people can think of is protecting Stotts.
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Unreal. In the Western Conference Finals vs an all time team and dynasty, without their second best player and his backup with one arm and all people can think of is how shitty our coaching is
 
calvin natt said:
Unreal. In the Western Conference Finals vs an all time team and dynasty, without their second best player and his backup with one arm and all people can think of is how shitty our coaching is
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No - we are asking how the Blazers can emulate the Warriors' success. When you get right down to it, people are asking if Stotts is our Kerr, or our Jackson. People may not phrase it that way, but that is the question.
 
oldmangrouch said:
No - we are asking how the Blazers can emulate the Warriors' success. When you get right down to it, people are asking if Stotts is our Kerr, or our Jackson. People may not phrase it that way, but that is the question.
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That’s a good way of spinning it I guess
 
How many times has he now lost to Kerr in the playoffs? 15 times?
Doesn't he have the squad necessary to compete? What else does he need?
Yes, we beat OKC and Denver, but I will be pissed if we were swept against the Warriors.
tykendo said:
Stotts has done a great job this year,PERIOD!
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joeBlazers said:
How many times has he now lost to Kerr in the playoffs? 15 times?
Doesn't he have the squad necessary to compete? What else does he need?
Yes, we beat OKC and Denver, but I will be pissed if we were swept against the Warriors.
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Let's take a look at the list of coaches who have eliminated Kerr in the last 4 years:

Ty Lue

No, the Blazers roster is not good enough to beat the Warriors. Rank their top 6 players and compare it to the Blazers and they have us at each comparison. If you are outmatched 1-6, you're highly unlikely to beat a team in a best of 7 series in my opinion.
 
It comes down to style of play. I know the Warriors have talent but watch the way they play. Now watch the way we play.

Night and day difference. One team pushes the ball, moves the ball extremely well, moves players, has creative, unique sets to put players in a position of strength. They switch up their defensive schemes regularly. The other team plays a very slow halfcourt offense, which doesn't move players and runs the same few, basic sets which is easy to trap. They also run one defensive scheme all year.

That's what it comes down to.
 
D'Antoni competed ... lost in 6, but competed the last 2 years
Doc Rivers took them to 6 games. The Clippers competed this year, although they lost.
We aren't even competitive.
Can we win 1 game? 2 games?
NO. We are just looking for another excuse for Stotts, who was given players after players after players ...
Last year D'Antoni competed with the likes of Mbah Amoute ... who is worst than Aminu. Look at Houston/Clippers roster. Look at ours ...
Tince said:
Let's take a look at the list of coaches who have eliminated Kerr in the last 4 years:

Ty Lue

No, the Blazers roster is not good enough to beat the Warriors. Rank their top 6 players and compare it to the Blazers and they have us at each comparison. If you are outmatched 1-6, you're highly unlikely to beat a team in a best of 7 series in my opinion.
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We play a team as often as we do the Warriors and we can't figure out a way to win 1 or 2 games against them?
Embarrassing. I'm not a Stotts fan, if he can't win a game this series.
BonesJones said:
It comes down to style of play. I know the Warriors have talent but watch the way they play. Now watch the way we play.

Night and day difference. One team pushes the ball, moves the ball extremely well, moves players, has creative, unique sets to put players in a position of strength. They switch up their defensive schemes regularly. The other team plays a very slow halfcourt offense, which doesn't move players and runs the same few, basic sets which is easy to trap. They also run one defensive scheme all year.

That's what it comes down to.
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joeBlazers said:
D'Antoni competed ... lost in 6, but competed the last 2 years
Doc Rivers took them to 6 games. The Clippers competed this year, although they lost.
We aren't even competitive.
Can we win 1 game? 2 games?
NO. We are just looking for another excuse for Stotts, who was given players after players after players ...
Last year D'Antoni competed with the likes of Mbah Amoute ... who is worst than Aminu. Look at Houston/Clippers roster. Look at ours ...
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So you're measuring stick is winning 1 game? Does that mean if we win Game 4 you will be ok with everything?

Mbah A Moute was in and out of the rotation against Golden State, he should be worse than our starting PF shouldn't he? Would you rather have PJ Tucker and Ariza or Harkless and Aminu? Would you rather have Iggy & Green or Harkless and Aminu? It's not even close on a talent scale.
 
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