Notice How to watch root sports without cable

[Phatguysrule]

Eff 'em.

 

[illmatic99]

Fuck 'em.

i feel zero guilt about watching pirated streams this year. none whatsoever. i had some level of morality the past 10 yrs or so.

no more.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

i feel zero guilt about watching pirated streams this year. none whatsoever. i had some level of morality the past 10 yrs or so.

no more.

It would be fun to watch a game with @barfo.

 

[tykendo]

I totally get the frustration. The Blazers are my favorite team, and i would be up in arms if i was facing this situation. Us fans just want to see the games. NBCNW was great for me in Springfield the last 2 and a half years. I got it through Hulu, and it worked for me at a decent price. I love the Blazers, but their organization people, in charge of this, completely dropped the ball. This should have been fixed, & ready, months ago. I wish all of you access to see our team before the regular season starts. Good Luck & Go Blazers!!

 

[Phatguysrule]

I totally get the frustration. The Blazers are my favorite team, and i would be up in arms if i was facing this situation. Us fans just want to see the games. NBCNW was great for me in Springfield the last 2 and a half years. I got it through Hulu, and it worked for me at a decent price. I love the Blazers, but their organization people, in charge of this, completely dropped the ball. This should have been fixed, & ready, months ago. I wish all of you access to see our team before the regular season starts. Good Luck & Go Blazers!!

I watched last nights game from the birds nest, right between the sails of me clipper. Quality was fantastic.

 

[Orion Bailey]

So let me make sure I’m hearing this correctly, people are upset because a business chose the best deal for them to make money? Is that what were complaining about?

yes. Because it isnt in the best interest of its customers. This isnt a production facility. Its entertainment. Without fans there is no team.


This is the same route commiecast took


Lets hire subcontractors so we can have an out and say, not our problem.

yeah. This is a valid complaint from the fans.

 

[Phatguysrule]

In order to make about $8.5 billion in sub fees (the amount of their apparent new contract) the NBA would have to charge the 1.4 million fans who watch games every night about $30 per month for their 7 month season.

And that's assuming you could get all 1.4 million to sign up without other cable services. Looks like teams make over $7 billion per year from ads. I'm not sure how much overlap exists with those numbers.

Cable companies need to die.

 

[illmatic99]

In order to make about $8.5 billion in sub fees (the amount of their apparent new contract) the NBA would have to charge the 1.4 million fans who watch games every night about $30 per month for their 7 month season.

And that's assuming you could get all 1.4 million to sign up without other cable services. Looks like teams make over $7 billion per year from ads. I'm not sure how much overlap exists with those numbers.

Cable companies need to die.

The threshold should not be 8 billion. The NBA can afford to take fewer profits in the short term if it means are more widespread audience in the long term. They don't seem to agree with this mindset as this would affect the owners' 500x return on investment just from valuation alone. How someone can rationalize this is only a distributor problem is laughable to me. We're in this problem in the first place because of the owners and the league as a whole.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

We're 5 years away from one of the sports betting sites buying the broadcast rights to a sports league and then broadcasting their games for free. Instead of TV timeouts, there will be betting timeouts. Almost everything will be a betting opportunity during a game. "Will Lillard miss this free throw?" "Will the next made basket be a dunk?" It will be like Pop Up Video but instead popup betting opportunities.

AND IT WILL SUCK!

 

[illmatic99]

We're 5 years away from one of the sports betting sites buying the broadcast rights to a sports league and then broadcasting their games for free. Instead of TV timeouts, there will be betting timeouts. Almost everything will be a betting opportunity during a game. "Will Lillard miss this free throw?" "Will the next made basket be a dunk?" It will be like Pop Up Video but instead popup betting opportunities.

AND IT WILL SUCK!

how is that worse than the current scenario? at least the games would be visible.

BTW, do you know League Pass actually had pop ups show up last year the start of quarters asking trivia questions, etc, and you could not simply close them? And EVEN if you disagreed to being asked questions early in the game, they would still show up again every quarter.

that kinda shit already exists.

 

[THE HCP]

Well that makes it okay.

What?

 

[THE HCP]

yes. Because it isnt in the best interest of its customers. This isnt a production facility. Its entertainment. Without fans there is no team.


This is the same route commiecast took


Lets hire subcontractors so we can have an out and say, not our problem.

yeah. This is a valid complaint from the fans.

But it’s been this way for 10 plus years and nobody has gone anywhere. Nobody has stopped going to games or buying tickets. Nobody. Nothing is different. Now all of a sudden outrage. Until Dish bounced, more people were going to actually be able to watch. Now not anymore. Once again this is on Root, not the team. They can legally do nothing about this.

 

[THE HCP]

We're 5 years away from one of the sports betting sites buying the broadcast rights to a sports league and then broadcasting their games for free. Instead of TV timeouts, there will be betting timeouts. Almost everything will be a betting opportunity during a game. "Will Lillard miss this free throw?" "Will the next made basket be a dunk?" It will be like Pop Up Video but instead popup betting opportunities.

AND IT WILL SUCK!

will there be a FIRE BILLUPS BECAUSE WE ARE 30th IN THE LEAGUE IN OFFENSE” thread at that time?

 

[THE HCP]

how is that worse than the current scenario? at least the games would be visible.

BTW, do you know League Pass actually had pop ups show up last year the start of quarters asking trivia questions, etc, and you could not simply close them? And EVEN if you disagreed to being asked questions early in the game, they would still show up again every quarter.

that kinda shit already exists.

You brother have the craziest League pass on earth. Everything you complain about every year is simply your experience. Never in my 20 years of having it have I seen a pop up trivia on any of my screens. Maybe whatever teams broadcast you were watching was adding it, but that isn’t an NBA LEAGUE PASS thing.

 

[Fairly-Hard]

will there be a FIRE BILLUPS BECAUSE WE ARE 30th IN THE LEAGUE IN OFFENSE” thread at that time?

I’d bet the over on that!

 

[Fairly-Hard]

You brother have the craziest League pass on earth. Everything you complain about every year is simply your experience. Never in my 20 years of having it have I seen a pop up trivia on any of my screens. Maybe whatever teams broadcast you were watching was adding it, but that isn’t an NBA LEAGUE PASS thing.

Yeah if I remember right Blazers ask a trivia question pretty much every game.

 

[Strenuus]

It’s a mess everywhere. Shit Nuggets and Avalanche fans haven’t been able to watch their teams in Denver for YEARS now.

So why is that okay to just say "well I'm happy the business is making money even if I can't enjoy the product"?

Businesses are supposed to be mutually benefitting in order to keep delivering the product. Not just make money and then shut people out. What kind of long term solid investment is that in 20 years? It's a mirror of society, really. The few get rich while the rest work for them.

I think therein lies the big problem people have.

 

[Strenuus]

You brother have the craziest League pass on earth. Everything you complain about every year is simply your experience. Never in my 20 years of having it have I seen a pop up trivia on any of my screens. Maybe whatever teams broadcast you were watching was adding it, but that isn’t an NBA LEAGUE PASS thing.

I've seen the trivia thing too when I do league pass as well. On almost any stream.

That being said, I think there's a setting to turn it off.

 

[Orion Bailey]

But it’s been this way for 10 plus years and nobody has gone anywhere. Nobody has stopped going to games or buying tickets. Nobody. Nothing is different. Now all of a sudden outrage. Until Dish bounced, more people were going to actually be able to watch. Now not anymore. Once again this is on Root, not the team. They can legally do nothing about this.

See, i think thats part of the problem in many peoples’ eyes. Nothing has changed.
But in reality, everything has been changing/evolving.
Cable will go away one day.

The frustration is, a team that has such a techy savvy edge, isn’t trying to stay ahead of the curve on this.

Im not sure Mr. Allen would have just sat and let this happen without working to satisfy both entities of viewers, plugged and unplugged.

I believe the Blazers should have paid more to be on a larger Channel that has more viewing options. Pay more in the short term will pay off in the long run with a larger fan base.
The whole NW is up for grabs with no other team around.
I would have done everything possible to make sure the channel i contract with, had established contracts with both cable and streaming entities.

 

[Wheels]

But it’s been this way for 10 plus years and nobody has gone anywhere. Nobody has stopped going to games or buying tickets. Nobody. Nothing is different. Now all of a sudden outrage. Until Dish bounced, more people were going to actually be able to watch. Now not anymore. Once again this is on Root, not the team. They can legally do nothing about this.

Hi, Hello!

 

[Shaboid]

What?

I think what stren said explains it well.

So why is that okay to just say "well I'm happy the business is making money even if I can't enjoy the product"?

Businesses are supposed to be mutually benefitting in order to keep delivering the product. Not just make money and then shut people out. What kind of long term solid investment is that in 20 years? It's a mirror of society, really. The few get rich while the rest work for them.

I think therein lies the big problem people have.

 

[Tince]

But it’s been this way for 10 plus years and nobody has gone anywhere. Nobody has stopped going to games or buying tickets. Nobody. Nothing is different. Now all of a sudden outrage. Until Dish bounced, more people were going to actually be able to watch. Now not anymore. Once again this is on Root, not the team. They can legally do nothing about this.

I agree this has been a "problem" for 10 years now. I think where people get a little frustrated is the Blazers have came out and said they want all their fans to be able to access Blazer games and then when they change to a new broadcast partner, they appear to have picked the platform that pays them the most vs one who has committed to offering their channel to providers at a price that the Blazers know will be picked up by the DirectTV, Dish, YouTubeTV, and Hulu's of the world. The Blazers could have worked that into a deal had they been willing to take a discount. Ultimately I get it is a business, but in the sports world, you're supposed to try and trick your fans into thinking you care about them being able to access your product.

 

[illmatic99]

I've seen the trivia thing too when I do league pass as well. On almost any stream.

That being said, I think there's a setting to turn it off.

it didn't stay off. kept refreshing that setting every quarter on my mac. whatever it's in the past now. im going rogue

 

[PHXBlazer1]

I really hope this is the case..I forgot to cancel my free trial of Fubo TV and as of yesterday Root still isn’t on there. This is all bullshit

 

[Orion Bailey]

So i understand whats done is done. But why cant the blazers put pressure on root to get more contacts done or they will not renew and never give root a chance at anything again?

in other words, why cant the Blazers flex on this?

 

[Wheels]

So i understand whats done is done. But why cant the blazers put pressure on root to get more contacts done or they will not renew and never give root a chance at anything again?

in other words, why cant the Blazers flex on this?

They don’t care. They get the money either way.
Which in turn is what makes it harder for me to care about the team.

 

[B-Roy]

They don’t care. They get the money either way.
Which in turn is what makes it harder for me to care about the team.

Yeah, the thing with sports "fans" is that they are called fanatics for a reason. They know fans won't stop being fans of the team just because they have to jump through some hoops to watch hoops. They may bitch and moan about it, but you're not losing as many customers as you would in the traditional sense when a normal company pisses off their consumers.

So just maximize short term value (eg. get the best contract you can, regardless of other factors), and the rest is not as important.

 

[BonesJones]

Ffffuuuuucccckkk mcgowan!!!!!

im fuming now after reading up on this!!!

Can we start a petition?

Names of people who will no longer attend games or spend a penny on the Blazers until they make it viewable for most people?


If people will sign it, i will create it and i will digitally send it to many many many Blazers fans in hopes of getting a few thousand signatures at minimum.

I seriously cant believe this. Comcast is extremely limited except in larger metro areas.

McGowan fucked up, big time.

But the biggest issue is ROOT demanding too much in negotiations, then painting it as other TV services choosing not to have them, and then going and telling Blazer fans to go call up those companies and tell them to carry ROOT Sports.

ROOT is greedy as fuck. The team didn't have much of a choice but gave up their leverage without forcing enough action from ROOT.

 

[Tince]

McGowan fucked up, big time.

But the biggest issue is ROOT demanding too much in negotiations, then painting it as other TV services choosing not to have them, and then going and telling Blazer fans to go call up those companies and tell them to carry ROOT Sports.

ROOT is greedy as fuck. The team didn't have much of a choice but gave up their leverage without forcing enough action from ROOT.

I think the Blazers had to operate under the assumption that Root was going to be as greedy as possible and put one of these options in their contract lanague:

1) They can cancel the contract if <x>% of services do not have Root in their lineup package
2) Root must offer their channel at <x> amount per subscriber to providers
3) If <x>% of services don't have Root, they can offer their own internal streaming service.

Yes there are flaws in each of my 3 proposals I just spit-balled out, but all those smart people in a room, with time, could have ironed something out if they wanted to.

 

[Further]

Does anyone know how far the local blackout map extends? I just moved back to Walla Walla and want to get Team Pass. I can’t find a simple answer, is there a blackout map?