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ABM said:
That is kind of what I was portraying in my United We Drive thread. It's amazing how far that can go.
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Only so far unfortunately
 
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SlyPokerCat said:
Acropolis or bust.
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YamTastic said:
Alberta's rents for what you get are ludicrous. I am paying $1395 for 480sqft, and in Slabtown I got 600sqft for the same price.
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Does Alberta still have that Third Thursday, or such, whereas they close one of the streets for a fair?
 
ABM said:
Pardon that pic, but my warped mind raced to a Portland institution that effectively lost its way.

I hope to have a beer with you someday.....and NOT at the Acropolis! Do you drink beer per chance?
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Yes, I drink beer and boy am I thirsty.
 
Chris Craig said:
The virgin Mary was only 12? That's fucked up.
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It's really only in the last couple hundred years that we have decided that anything under 18 is considered yucky. That was prime marrying age back in colonial days!
 
ABM said:
Meaning, none of this has anything to do with K thru 3rd Grade.
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The bill, which passed the Florida House in late February and the state Senate last week, imposes several vague restrictions on classroom instruction. The most notable part of the bill provides that “classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards.”

The bill, however, does not define key terms like “age appropriate” or “developmentally appropriate.” It doesn’t even define the term “classroom instruction.”

Suppose, for example, that Ms. Smith is a second grade teacher married to a woman. One evening, while Smith and her wife are shopping at the mall, she runs into one of her students and they say hello to each other. The next day, the student asks Ms. Smith who the woman she was shopping with is, and Smith responds, “Oh, that’s my wife.”

If this conversation with the student occurs in a classroom, does it constitute “classroom instruction”?

The insidiousness of Florida’s law is that teachers who won’t understand how to comply with the new law are likely to overcensor their speech in order to protect themselves from being accused of violating the law.​

https://www.vox.com/2022/3/15/22976...supreme-court-first-amendment-schools-parents
 
SlyPokerDog said:
The bill, which passed the Florida House in late February and the state Senate last week, imposes several vague restrictions on classroom instruction. The most notable part of the bill provides that “classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards.”

The bill, however, does not define key terms like “age appropriate” or “developmentally appropriate.” It doesn’t even define the term “classroom instruction.”

Suppose, for example, that Ms. Smith is a second grade teacher married to a woman. One evening, while Smith and her wife are shopping at the mall, she runs into one of her students and they say hello to each other. The next day, the student asks Ms. Smith who the woman she was shopping with is, and Smith responds, “Oh, that’s my wife.”

If this conversation with the student occurs in a classroom, does it constitute “classroom instruction”?

The insidiousness of Florida’s law is that teachers who won’t understand how to comply with the new law are likely to overcensor their speech in order to protect themselves from being accused of violating the law.​

https://www.vox.com/2022/3/15/22976...supreme-court-first-amendment-schools-parents
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I'm sure they'll get it figured out. Sometimes, there's the letter of the law and the spirit of the law. In virtually every case situation of our existence, there are exceptions.
 
crandc said:
And the law also allows for prosecution, in special courts, of any teacher any grade if any parent complains. I am also sure they will "figure it out".
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Follow the money. Who's paying the bills?
 
SlyPokerDog said:
You mean who is giving money to the politicians that are supporting this bill?

Or who is going to pay for the special courts?
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omg.

Homeowners (parents) pay for our public schools.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
So if money from taxpayers funds a law there is nothing wrong with the law? Really?
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What I'm saying is, tax payers (i.e. parents) should have at least SOME say in what's going on in our schools. Other than that, laws are enacted via voted-in officials. Really, it's the American way.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
And they don't now? Or they didn't before this law?
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They should. Hence the law. K-3rd discussions of this nature should remain in the home. If scenarios (what you had posted) outside that realm creep in, so be it. If I were the 2nd grade teacher, I'd schedule a parent/teacher conference and go from there.
 
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