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If we are 100% committing to try to win in Dame era, I propose CJ, Collins, and this years 1st for Kawai... then resign Nurk and Ed... i don’t think many teams, if any, could beat that package
 
hoopsjock said:
Any team that is out of the playoffs can technically trade again but it's usually a pretty common practice to wait until around the end of the Finals. However I think there was a big trade last year or the year before while the playoffs were still going so it can happen.
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One important note: The luxury tax day has already passed so any trades made between now and June 30th only affect next year's tax number not this year but for contract purposes all deals use this year's salary. You can't trade anyone who is a free agent or who has a player option that hasn't officially been picked up yet.

Baldwin can't be traded until 6/12

PapaG can't be traded until 6/18

Nurk, Napier, Connaughton, and Davis are not eligible to be traded.

All others have no restrictions other than normal trade rules.

An important note is that Baldwin, PapaG, and Layman could all be packaged together after 6/18 and whatever team acquired them could then waive them as an immediate salary dump. It's only about $4.6 million in total salary and I don't want to see Baldwin go but they could package those three with say Leonard and then trade for someone making around $17 million as a way for that other team to dump salary. A guy like Luol Deng for example who the Lakers may have to use the stretch provision on could be traded for that package and the Lakers could waive the 3 non-guarantees and gain an extra $7 million in free agency this summer. We'd have to take on more salary but we'd likely gain a good future pick or two for doing so.
 
Gronk Brady said:
If we are 100% committing to try to win in Dame era, I propose CJ, Collins, and this years 1st for Kawai... then resign Nurk and Ed... i don’t think many teams, if any, could beat that package
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So they'd win a title next year? That is the one and only year you'd have a chance to win because Kawhi would be gone after one year and you'd have lost your pick and young big plus you wouldn't have gotten anything for CJ. Gee that sounds awesome.
 
hoopsjock said:
So they'd win a title next year? That is the one and only year you'd have a chance to win because Kawhi would be gone after one year and you'd have lost your pick and young big plus you wouldn't have gotten anything for CJ. Gee that sounds awesome.
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Dame will be 28 next season... status quo will not make you a contender, no matter who you sign for mid level exception. Kawai is a former finals MVP... you take a shot with him for 1 year... if it works, Kawai will resign garuanteed... if not then you look to full rebuild. It’s time for Neil to take a gameble after 6 years playing it safe... it’s now or never IMO. You don’t want to wait to long to trade CJ or is value will start to decline
 
Gronk Brady said:
Dame will be 28 next season... status quo will not make you a contender, no matter who you sign for mid level exception. Kawai is a former finals MVP... you take a shot with him for 1 year... if it works, Kawai will resign garuanteed... if not then you look to full rebuild. It’s time for Neil to take a gameble after 6 years playing it safe... it’s now or never IMO. You don’t want to wait to long to trade CJ or is value will start to decline
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I dont agree with everything per say, but I would say I think CJ's stock has already leveled off, if not regressed a tad since the start of the season.
 
Gronk Brady said:
Dame will be 28 next season... status quo will not make you a contender, no matter who you sign for mid level exception. Kawai is a former finals MVP... you take a shot with him for 1 year... if it works, Kawai will resign garuanteed... if not then you look to full rebuild. It’s time for Neil to take a gameble after 6 years playing it safe... it’s now or never IMO. You don’t want to wait to long to trade CJ or is value will start to decline
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He'll re-sign guaranteed???? He'd be leaving the fucking Spurs, a team he actually won a title with and that actually could've been a contender if he was healthy. His camp wants out of SA for a big market. Why would he then re-sign with Portland?

I'm open to trading CJ but I think you build for the future not for one year when you don't even know if Kawhi would play. Trading him, Collins, and our draft pick would lead to an even longer rebuild.
 
Neil at next press conference: “Look, 6 years ago we weren’t even expected to make the playoffs... we got swept by a Pelicans team that beat the Warriors by 20 in game 3.
 
Gronk Brady said:
Neil at next press conference: “Look, 6 years ago we weren’t even expected to make the playoffs... we got swept by a Pelicans team that beat the Warriors by 20 in game 3.
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Yawn, here you are again making crap up to fuel your every day hate of Olshey. Don't you ever get tired of posting basically the same thing over and over again? We know you hate Olshey. We know you want him fired but when is enough enough? It makes you look very limited in your knowledge of the game. Be creative and venture beyond your hate for Olshey.
 
CupWizier said:
Yawn, here you are again making crap up to fuel your every day hate of Olshey. Don't you ever get tired of posting basically the same thing over and over again? We know you hate Olshey. We know you want him fired but when is enough enough? It makes you look very limited in your knowledge of the game. Be creative and venture beyond your hate for Olshey.
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Put me on ignore if you are soft mentally and it bothers you so much... I already told you I will keep posting the same shit until someone is held accountable for that miserable season... either Neil or Stotts fired or CJ traded. Don’t really care about your opinion of my basketball knowledge... you thinking the Dame/CJ combo could ever win a championship or even legitimately compete tells me all I need to know about your knowledge of the game.
 
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Gronk Brady said:
Put me on ignore if you are soft mentally and it bothers you so much... I already told you I will keep posting the same shit until someone is held accountable for that miserable season... either Neil or Olshey fired or CJ traded. Don’t really care about your opinion of my basketball knowledge... you thinking the Dame/CJ combo could ever win a championship or even legitimately compete tells me all I need to know about your knowledge of the game.
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You should really stop trying to think what I think as it makes you look foolish, but then again posting the same tired shit on a daily basis already puts you in that category. By the way, Neil and Olshey are one and the same. :biglaugh:
 
CupWizier said:
Yawn, here you are again making crap up to fuel your every day hate of Olshey. Don't you ever get tired of posting basically the same thing over and over again? We know you hate Olshey. We know you want him fired but when is enough enough? It makes you look very limited in your knowledge of the game. Be creative and venture beyond your hate for Olshey.
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My impression of this and similar threads is that you dominate with almost half the posts, repeating the same thing several times per day. That makes it seem as if half the board agrees with you. Which of course is your intention.
 
Ultimately it seeems like PA is ok with Neil even though I’m not, so all I can really hope for is that NO makes the moves that turn the Blazers into contenders. Hey maybe NO makes some moves and the Blazers make the second round next year and my sentiments change... We’ll see.
 
Danny Ainge could trade Hayward or Kyrie for Kawhi.....I wouldn't be surprised to see Boston get him
 
I don’t think the Spurs would be interested in Hayward for Kawhi. Maybe Kyrie, but not sure.
 
calvin natt said:
There isn’t a package Portland could put together to get Kawhi.
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I disagree... I think a package of CJ, Collins, and a 1st would be hard to beat... and anything better than that, a team would be giving up too much probably, and would have to really think if it was worth it... Can’t see Boston giving up Tatum or Brown... Hayward coming off major injury... And without trading those three it makes no sense to bring in another SF
 
Gronk Brady said:
I disagree... I think a package of CJ, Collins, and a 1st would be hard to beat... and anything better than that, a team would be giving up too much probably, and would have to really think if it was worth it... Can’t see Boston giving up Tatum or Brown... Hayward coming off major injury... And without trading those three it makes no sense to bring in another SF
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I read somewhere that the Spurs weren’t going to trade him to the western conference. I mean it’s all speculation with “sources” so I wouldn’t take it that seriously.
 
Gronk Brady said:
I disagree... I think a package of CJ, Collins, and a 1st would be hard to beat... and anything better than that, a team would be giving up too much probably, and would have to really think if it was worth it... Can’t see Boston giving up Tatum or Brown... Hayward coming off major injury... And without trading those three it makes no sense to bring in another SF
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I think Boston would definitely give up Brown. Even then, they have Rozier.. they have SACs 2019 unprotected pick among many others... they could beat that package without including Brown or Tatum.

I wouldn't do it. It doesn't make us contenders IMO. We'd be better but not good enough to beat GS or HOU, and then Kawhi leaves.

I'm not trading CJ unless it's for a deal or kicks off a series of deals that makes us good enough to beat HOU and GS in a series, or makes us better in the future with young talent/picks, returns a package of multiple good role players (Middleton+Brogdon, for example), or has no risk (Kawhi leaving is too risky).

That's 4 scenarios I would explore trading CJ in and I don't think trading CJ, Collins, and a 1st would fit under any of those.. it's actually go against a couple of those. I feel like it's be like Detroit when they traded for Griffin, except Kawhi would leave and we'd have to rebuild with no assets or youth (because we traded CJ, Collins, and a 1st).
 
Gronk Brady said:
Why do Olshey and Stotts still have jobs?!
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IMHO it's because most fans are happy with having good guys who are competitive enough to make the playoffs.

Portlanders have always been a little small town thinking. It's part of the reason there is only 1 of the 4 major sports there.

If more fans demanded change, there would be change
 
Mediocre Man said:
Why would Lebron come here?

If you're going to troll, do it better
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I believe that’s the point. It would take a trade for a player of LeBron’s magnitude (hint: there’s only one LeBron) to make the Blazers competitive with the Warriors. We can all agree that’s not happening. Despite that, some around here are demanding Olshey’s head on a platter for failure to deliver on the impossible. Most of these same people want Terry’s head on another platter fo failing to coach a non contending team into contention.

I don’t see you in either of those categories, exactly. You just seem to enjoy bitching about our non contending status.
 
I'm throwing this in here special for JLPRK:
"Consider this list: Andre Drummond, Anthony Davis, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Bradley Beal, Joel Embiid, LaMarcus Aldridge, Rudy Gobert, and Victor Oladipo. Those players are all All-Stars (or DPOY candidates in Gobert) and are all going to be making less money than McCollum next season.

They all also signed their current contracts within one year of McCollum’s, meaning they were negotiating for the same general maximum salaries and under the same CBA rules as McCollum. Throw in the fact that McCollum had a single season track record when he signed his deal, and it’s appropriate to start asking how he managed to negotiate a sweeter deal than nearly one-third of this year’s all-stars."

https://www.blazersedge.com/2018/5/8/17330020/is-cj-mccollum-overpaid-trail-blazers
 
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