I'm So SICK & TIRED of Neil Olshey (1 Viewer)

[riverman]

I'm throwing this in here special for JLPRK:
"Consider this list: Andre Drummond, Anthony Davis, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Bradley Beal, Joel Embiid, LaMarcus Aldridge, Rudy Gobert, and Victor Oladipo. Those players are all All-Stars (or DPOY candidates in Gobert) and are all going to be making less money than McCollum next season.

They all also signed their current contracts within one year of McCollum’s, meaning they were negotiating for the same general maximum salaries and under the same CBA rules as McCollum. Throw in the fact that McCollum had a single season track record when he signed his deal, and it’s appropriate to start asking how he managed to negotiate a sweeter deal than nearly one-third of this year’s all-stars."

https://www.blazersedge.com/2018/5/8/17330020/is-cj-mccollum-overpaid-trail-blazers

Lamarcus threw away millions by not re-signing with Portland....he would have made that money but chose to leave it on the table

 

[Mediocre Man]

I believe that’s the point. It would take a trade for a player of LeBron’s magnitude (hint: there’s only one LeBron) to make the Blazers competitive with the Warriors. We can all agree that’s not happening. Despite that, some around here are demanding Olshey’s head on a platter for failure to deliver on the impossible. Most of these same people want Terry’s head on another platter fo failing to coach a non contending team into contention.

I don’t see you in either of those categories, exactly. You just seem to enjoy bitching about our non contending status.

No, the point was to be an ass hat

To answer you, yes, I botch about not contending. That's what fans should bitch about, don't you think?

Someone with a lot of power, maybe it's PA instead of NO, almost seems afraid to take chances. What the Blazer have, and have been for several years, isn't going to compete. Yet they still seem to follow the same plan.

It's frustrating to me that simply making the playoffs seems to be ok.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I didn't realize you knew anything else.

I will leave you, hyperbole and strawman all to yourself now. Tootles.

Well at least I can cancel the restraining order since the stalking will stop

 

[CupWizier]

Well at least I can cancel the restraining order since the stalking will stop

lol, so I take it you will no longer be responding to any of my posts then. Can't be stalked if you are the one actually doing the stalking. Have a nice day kid.

 

[CupWizier]

Lamarcus threw away millions by not re-signing with Portland....he would have made that money but chose to leave it on the table

Apparently details don't matter. I like how he also put Oladipo on the list as he has been a disappointment up until this year and after he signed the contract. Davis, Beal and Drummond all signed near identical contracts to McCollum as well.

 

[Mediocre Man]

lol, so I take it you will no longer be responding to any of my posts then. Can't be stalked if you are the one actually doing the stalking. Have a nice day kid.

I don't have an issue with you responding to every single one of my posts like a fan girl.

Also, calling someone kid is a quality attempt at being passive aggressive. Nice effort.

You thinking I'm the GOAT, even a young one is flattering though.

This whole time I thought you were just being an annoying troll, but really you were just intimidated by me being the GOAT, in your eyes.

 

[e_blazer]

No, the point was to be an ass hat

To answer you, yes, I botch about not contending. That's what fans should bitch about, don't you think?

Someone with a lot of power, maybe it's PA instead of NO, almost seems afraid to take chances. What the Blazer have, and have been for several years, isn't going to compete. Yet they still seem to follow the same plan.

It's frustrating to me that simply making the playoffs seems to be ok.

No, the point was to be an ass hat

To answer you, yes, I botch about not contending. That's what fans should bitch about, don't you think?

Someone with a lot of power, maybe it's PA instead of NO, almost seems afraid to take chances. What the Blazer have, and have been for several years, isn't going to compete. Yet they still seem to follow the same plan.

It's frustrating to me that simply making the playoffs seems to be ok.

I guess I just don't agree that either PA or NO are content with just playing it safe and making the playoffs. They were willing to part with three first round draft picks to trade for Paul George prior to last year's draft. That was a pretty risky play, but it takes two to make a deal happen and KP wasn't interested in anything that would have helped the Blazers. I feel like Olshey is wanting to make a big trade and is just waiting for the right opportunity to come a long. Fans get to complain about nothing happening. GMs have to actually deal with reality and sometimes that takes more time than fans are willing to allow.

 

[blue9]

I believe that’s the point. It would take a trade for a player of LeBron’s magnitude (hint: there’s only one LeBron) to make the Blazers competitive with the Warriors.

But what would it take to be competitive with the Pelicans?

 

[Mediocre Man]

I guess I just don't agree that either PA or NO are content with just playing it safe and making the playoffs. They were willing to part with three first round draft picks to trade for Paul George prior to last year's draft. That was a pretty risky play, but it takes two to make a deal happen and KP wasn't interested in anything that would have helped the Blazers. I feel like Olshey is wanting to make a big trade and is just waiting for the right opportunity to come a long. Fans get to complain about nothing happening. GMs have to actually deal with reality and sometimes that takes more time than fans are willing to allow.

He was interested in CJ

 

[KeepOnRollin]

He was interested in CJ

CJ was on poison-pill provision at the time according to my memory. Even if we would consider moving him then it wouldn't have worked out for the other team financially.

 

[e_blazer]

But what would it take to be competitive with the Pelicans?

I think that this is part of a false narrative that I've seen around here a lot since the Blazers were swept out of the playoffs. It kind of runs like this: The Blazers weren't competitive against the Pelicans in this year's playoffs, therefore they aren't competitive with the other playoff teams and need to be dramatically rebuilt. I don't think that's accurate. I've been saying since the Blazers were eliminated that the biggest part of what happened to them is that AD made the Pelicans a bad match-up for the Blazers. No other team all season was able to neutralize Dame the way the Pelicans did in that series. It was a combination of Holiday's length and tenacity on defense combined with AD's unique ability to cover enough ground quickly to defend against the screens the Blazers rely on to free Dame up and still get back to defend the middle. It was a different look than the Blazers had seen all year and I don't really think any other team has the assets to pull it off as effectively as the Pelicans did. The Blazers' inability to adjust was exacerbated by the injuries to Harkless and Turner. They needed a reliable wing who could hit from the perimeter to make the Pelicans pay for the constant attention they gave Dame. Chief did what he could, but they needed one more shooter. The reality is that it may be that Harkless isn't good enough for that role and the Blazers simply need an upgrade at SF, but the point is that I see that what the Pelicans pulled off is pretty unique to their talents and the Blazers lacking the one player needed to bust up that defense. I think that the Blazers would have likely beat OKC or the Spurs if that had been their first round match-up.

 

[CupWizier]

CJ was on poison-pill provision at the time according to my memory. Even if we would consider moving him then it wouldn't have worked out for the other team financially.

Yep, some people just think it's as simple as saying this guy for that guy and it's done and then you factor in that George would be a free agent this summer and we could end up with nothing.

 

[Hoopguru]

I think that this is part of a false narrative that I've seen around here a lot since the Blazers were swept out of the playoffs. It kind of runs like this: The Blazers weren't competitive against the Pelicans in this year's playoffs, therefore they aren't competitive with the other playoff teams and need to be dramatically rebuilt. I don't think that's accurate. I've been saying since the Blazers were eliminated that the biggest part of what happened to them is that AD made the Pelicans a bad match-up for the Blazers. No other team all season was able to neutralize Dame the way the Pelicans did in that series. It was a combination of Holiday's length and tenacity on defense combined with AD's unique ability to cover enough ground quickly to defend against the screens the Blazers rely on to free Dame up and still get back to defend the middle. It was a different look than the Blazers had seen all year and I don't really think any other team has the assets to pull it off as effectively as the Pelicans did. The Blazers' inability to adjust was exacerbated by the injuries to Harkless and Turner. They needed a reliable wing who could hit from the perimeter to make the Pelicans pay for the constant attention they gave Dame. Chief did what he could, but they needed one more shooter. The reality is that it may be that Harkless isn't good enough for that role and the Blazers simply need an upgrade at SF, but the point is that I see that what the Pelicans pulled off is pretty unique to their talents and the Blazers lacking the one player needed to bust up that defense. I think that the Blazers would have likely beat OKC or the Spurs if that had been their first round match-up.

good take. I agree that the Pel's, were a bad match up.

 

[CupWizier]

good take. I agree that the Pel's, were a bad match up.

and what happens one year doesn't mean it will always happen. It's why the games are actually played on a court and not in a forum.

 

[Gronk Brady]

Yep, some people just think it's as simple as saying this guy for that guy and it's done and then you factor in that George would be a free agent this summer and we could end up with nothing.

You have to take risks to achieve greatness, otherwise you are destined for mediocrity...

 

[THE HCP]

Why would Lebron come here?

If you're going to troll, do it better

If I was gay and lived in Texas I would marry you sir. I love your posts.

 

[riverman]

You have to take risks to achieve greatness, otherwise you are destined for mediocrity...

or you could just pay off porn stars

 

[THE HCP]

You have to take risks to achieve greatness, otherwise you are destined for mediocrity...

I bet that is printed on a poster in your basement huh? Got a couple of ants standing on top of each other trying to reach a branch or something?

 

[THE HCP]

I bet that is printed on a poster in your basement huh? Got a couple of ants standing on top of each other trying to reach a branch or something?

Shit, this was the best I could do......

 

[riverman]

One of the greatest films ever made!

 

[kjironman1]

Which is the reason some argue Aminu can't play SF. He's a small ball backup PF who is only effective on offense if he's unguarded and camped in the corner. Trade him.

You are so spot on with this statement i can't like it enough times!

 

[CupWizier]

You have to take risks to achieve greatness, otherwise you are destined for mediocrity...

Well, let's see how it works out for OKC as they decimated there roster for George who is reportedly going to walk and for Anthony who is destined to stay. That's a worst case scenario developing right in front of OKC.

After all is said and done then OKC will end up with Melo for Oladipo, Sabonis, Kantner, McDermott and a 2nd round pick and a one and done playoff experience. Was that a good risk?

 

[craigehlo]

The narrative that the Pels were a bad match up is selective thinking. This team limped into the playoffs getting their butts kicked by the Dallas, Houston, San Antonio and Denver in crucial games. The team was showing cracks well before AD and Holiday dismantled them.

Making roster changes is a needed and it not simply a reaction to the Pels sweep.

 

[kjironman1]

There isn’t a package Portland could put together to get Kawhi.

You are most likely correct about this.

 

[riverman]

NSFW!

 

[kjironman1]

IMHO it's because most fans are happy with having good guys who are competitive enough to make the playoffs.

Portlanders have always been a little small town thinking. It's part of the reason there is only 1 of the 4 major sports there.

If more fans demanded change, there would be change

Sometimes the truth hurts but this is probably the truth. I find myself wanting a team that is respectable. And getting in the mix seems to be all "Respectable" ever gets. Sometimes you got to be nasty and a little dirty to win it all.

 

[riverman]

If I was gay and lived in Texas I would marry you sir. I love your posts.

All of your ex's live in Texas?

 

[Gronk Brady]

I bet that is printed on a poster in your basement huh? Got a couple of ants standing on top of each other trying to reach a branch or something?

My basement is probably bigger than your house or apartment... if you want to compare accomplishments we can... you can keep mocking my posts... don’t really care the opinion of a 40+ year old that still thinks he is in high school... fams... seriously, who still uses that word... it was cool to say 20 years ago

 

[riverman]

My basement is probably bigger than your house or apartment... if you want to compare accomplishments we can... you can keep mocking my posts... don’t really care the opinion of a 40+ year old that still thinks he is in high school... fams... seriously, who still uses that word... it was cool to say 20 years ago

FAMS!....in high school we used to use the "mine is bigger than yours" schpiel too...that was 50 years ago in my world

 

[blue9]

I think that this is part of a false narrative that I've seen around here a lot since the Blazers were swept out of the playoffs. It kind of runs like this: The Blazers weren't competitive against the Pelicans in this year's playoffs, therefore they aren't competitive with the other playoff teams and need to be dramatically rebuilt. I don't think that's accurate. I've been saying since the Blazers were eliminated that the biggest part of what happened to them is that AD made the Pelicans a bad match-up for the Blazers. No other team all season was able to neutralize Dame the way the Pelicans did in that series. It was a combination of Holiday's length and tenacity on defense combined with AD's unique ability to cover enough ground quickly to defend against the screens the Blazers rely on to free Dame up and still get back to defend the middle. It was a different look than the Blazers had seen all year and I don't really think any other team has the assets to pull it off as effectively as the Pelicans did. The Blazers' inability to adjust was exacerbated by the injuries to Harkless and Turner. They needed a reliable wing who could hit from the perimeter to make the Pelicans pay for the constant attention they gave Dame. Chief did what he could, but they needed one more shooter. The reality is that it may be that Harkless isn't good enough for that role and the Blazers simply need an upgrade at SF, but the point is that I see that what the Pelicans pulled off is pretty unique to their talents and the Blazers lacking the one player needed to bust up that defense. I think that the Blazers would have likely beat OKC or the Spurs if that had been their first round match-up.

False narrative? A good team should not be swept by an equal just because of a "bad match-up". Getting swept by Lebron or OKC is one thing. Getting swept by NOP is entirely different. I think the story you're telling is the false narrative: Everything is okay (as long as we don't play THAT team...which also isn't close to being a contender)!
And my what a short memory - the book on how to beat the Blazers was written several years ago. Double Dame and make Aminu beat you. That's been the opponent's strategy against us since at least the LAC series. What NOP did is nothing we haven't seen before...they just happened to NOT see Holiday and Davis go down with injuries in G3.