Is Portland the best team in the West?

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BlazerBender said:
Aww Come on bro.

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We were winning before injuries started happening, and then we still won at first, but guys like Winslow cant play 40 minutes a night. We wore out our bench. Let us get healthy and see where we are at.

I suppose the key is will we ever get healthy?
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For sure. We weren't garbage then. Alot of injuries happened, now we are. When guys get healthy, maybe we can be good again.
 
THE HCP said:
And when they created a thread for people to bump up their win predictions two weeks in, I stayed with my 40 win prediction. Why do I get killed for that?
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Don't get it twisted your prediction was 39. UNDER Vegas odds.
 
Zion continues to wreak havoc on opponents' defense. His most underrated skill that makes him that much more unstoppable: ball handling. Ain't a 270+ pounder on the planet that can handle it as well as he does. Low center of gravity; he's only, what 6'6?? Look at the way Zion handles the ball vs another 7 ft 270 pounder in Nurk.
 
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The funny thing is that even after going 4-9 over our last 13 games the question posed in the thread title is still relevant. There isn't a best team in the West. I get it that NOLA is on a tear right now but I'm not afraid of that team or any other team in the West.

I still think we should make some moves at the trade deadline to make our roster make more sense but even if we don't, there isn't a team in the West that we couldn't beat in a seven game series.
 
THE HCP said:
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Blazers this season:

win against 1st seed
2 wins against 2nd seed
win against the 4th seed

Pels 3-2 against top 4 seeds, 0 wins on road. Blazers 4-2 against top-4 seeds, 2 wins on road

Blazers 1-0 against Pels.

Blazers 3 more road games than home games. Pels 3 more home games than road games. Blazers 4th in SOS; Pels 25th
 
blazerkor said:
The funny thing is that even after going 4-9 over our last 13 games the question posed in the thread title is still relevant. There isn't a best team in the West. I get it that NOLA is on a tear right now but I'm not afraid of that team or any other team in the West.

I still think we should make some moves at the trade deadline to make our roster make more sense but even if we don't, there isn't a team in the West that we couldn't beat in a seven game series.
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Great post til the end there my friend. You think if we matched up with ANY team in the west in a seven game series, we would win? ANY team?
 
wizenheimer said:
Blazers this season:

win against 1st seed
2 wins against 2nd seed
win against the 4th seed

Pels 3-2 against top 4 seeds, 0 wins on road. Blazers 4-2 against top-4 seeds, 2 wins on road

Blazers 1-0 against Pels.

Blazers 3 more road games than home games. Pels 3 more home games than road games. Blazers 4th in SOS; Pels 25th
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And yet after all that research we are STILL behind them in the standings?
 
blazerkor said:
The funny thing is that even after going 4-9 over our last 13 games the question posed in the thread title is still relevant. There isn't a best team in the West. I get it that NOLA is on a tear right now but I'm not afraid of that team or any other team in the West.

I still think we should make some moves at the trade deadline to make our roster make more sense but even if we don't, there isn't a team in the West that we couldn't beat in a seven game series.
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That's the spirit!!!

wizenheimer said:
Blazers this season:

win against 1st seed
2 wins against 2nd seed
win against the 4th seed

Pels 3-2 against top 4 seeds, 0 wins on road. Blazers 4-2 against top-4 seeds, 2 wins on road

Blazers 1-0 against Pels.

Blazers 3 more road games than home games. Pels 3 more home games than road games. Blazers 4th in SOS; Pels 25th
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I like this.
 
THE HCP said:
And yet after all that research we are STILL behind them in the standings?
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That research explains WHY were behind them in the standings and how it will even out. Like fouls even out in games. SOS evens out records as the season goes on.
 
THE HCP said:
Great post til the end there my friend. You think if we matched up with ANY team in the west in a seven game series, we would win? ANY team?
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To be fair he said could not would. Lots of unlikely stuff is possible, but a team being a legitimate contender means it's viewed as one of the favorites to win it all not just by homers.

STOMP
 
THE HCP said:
And yet after all that research we are STILL behind them in the standings?
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Yes, having the 25th hardest schedule in the league could definitely put you ahead of some teams who could beat you but have among the most difficult schedules in the league. For sure. 4 games difference? Pretty reasonable...

That will even out over the season.
 
This team is not playing good defense. Until that takes a 180 they aint beating squat in seven games. Its doable. Look at Boston last year. Takes work desire and coaching.
 
THE HCP said:
And yet after all that research we are STILL behind them in the standings?
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LOL, c'mon man....."research".....took 5 minutes at BBREF.

and as I pointed out, a 6 game differential between Home/Road between the teams as well as the huge gap in SOS can explain a lot of the gap. I mean, yeah, the Pels have been hot lately, but look at how easy their 'lately' has been: over the past 14 games they have had 11 at home and only 3 on the road; and 2 of the 3 road games were against the Spurs. And their 2 losses at home were against Boston....and Portland (look at that...more research!)

the Pels are a better balanced team than Portland....their GM has been at the job a lot longer than Cronin, and Cronin has been burdened with Olshey's wildly unbalanced and length challenged roster. And of course, everything in New Orleans rides on Zion's health. He's all that stands between potential HCA in the playoffs vs the lottery. Coming into this season, in his first 3 years Zion had played 85 games; Greg Oden played in 82 games in his first 3 years; 88 if you count playoffs. That's an incredibly shaky foundation for a #1 seed that is only 2 games away from losing HCA, 4 games away from the 8th seed and Play-in, and 5 games away from the lottery
 
STOMP said:
To be fair he said could not would. Lots of unlikely stuff is possible, but a team being a legitimate contender means it's viewed as one of the favorites to win it all not just by homers.

STOMP
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Ohhh “could”. You “could” win the lottery next week too. Good luck to you sir.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Yes, having the 25th hardest schedule in the league could definitely put you ahead of some teams who could beat you but have among the most difficult schedules in the league. For sure. 4 games difference? Pretty reasonable...

That will even out over the season.
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So you believe then that we will finish ahead of the Pels in the standings?
 
wizenheimer said:
LOL, c'mon man....."research".....took 5 minutes at BBREF.

and as I pointed out, a 6 game differential between Home/Road between the teams as well as the huge gap in SOS can explain a lot of the gap. I mean, yeah, the Pels have been hot lately, but look at how easy their 'lately' has been: over the past 14 games they have had 11 at home and only 3 on the road; and 2 of the 3 road games were against the Spurs. And their 2 losses at home were against Boston....and Portland (look at that...more research!)

the Pels are a better balanced team than Portland....their GM has been at the job a lot longer than Cronin, and Cronin has been burdened with Olshey's wildly unbalanced and length challenged roster. And of course, everything in New Orleans rides on Zion's health. He's all that stands between potential HCA in the playoffs vs the lottery. Coming into this season, in his first 3 years Zion had played 85 games; Greg Oden played in 82 games in his first 3 years; 88 if you count playoffs. That's an incredibly shaky foundation for a #1 seed that is only 2 games away from losing HCA, 4 games away from the 8th seed and Play-in, and 5 games away from the lottery
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So you think we will finish ahead of the Pels in the standings?
 
Blazers climbing standings past Phoenix. Only 2.5 games below the #1 seed.

1. New Orleans 18-9
2. Memphis 18-9
3. Denver 17-10
4. Portland 16-12
5. Phoenix 16-12
6. L.A. Clippers 17-3

Upcoming Games:

Bucks @ Grizzlies
Pelicans @ Jazz
Suns @ Clippers
Trail Blazers @ Mavericks
Kings (15-12) @ Pistons
Nuggets @ Lakers

Whomever wins the Clippers/Suns game will move ahead of us but Portland can regain position in Dallas.

If you don’t care about standings, please don’t respond.
 
Well, teams don’t stay at the top of the West very long. Portland, Utah, Phoenix, New Orleans, Memphis, and now Denver have all been in the #1 spot this season.
 
KSF-ERIC said:
Well, teams don’t stay at the top of the West very long. Portland, Utah, Phoenix, New Orleans, Memphis, and now Denver have all been in the #1 spot this season.
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Imagine that.
 
KSF-ERIC said:
Well, teams don’t stay at the top of the West very long. Portland, Utah, Phoenix, New Orleans, Memphis, and now Denver have all been in the #1 spot this season.
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Huh. It's like the first 3 months doesn't mean a whole lot.
 
Strenuus said:
Huh. It's like the first 3 months doesn't mean a whole lot.
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Stop. All the games matter. There’s just no team pulling away. I suppose Pistons have a shot at HCA this year? Since the first three months don’t matter?
 
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