Politics January 6th (2 Viewers)

[riverman]

um a leftist poster just threated to kick the ass of a rightiest poster.
And no one said a thing but me and you think my claim of leftist bis is a fantasy?

where are thsoe of you comdemning rivers call for violence???
I need not look anything up now. Yall just proved my point by not rebutting his threat to kick abms ass. But if abm had said something like that he would have been banned probably.

fucking joke around here. Lmao.
Lacking Self awareness my ass....
Lmao.

I'm not a leftist by any stretch of your Hatfields' and McCoys fantasy dude......but I do stand strongly against racism...proudly....you can dig up all the double standard comparisons you want...I know what I said , why I said it and who I said it to....and stand by my post.....I'm interracially married and have no tolerance for racism...I'll fight to defend my belief...what exactly are you calling out? My bad behavior? I can live with that. You can flag my post and ask for me to be banned....I don't need a safe place to hide in here

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I'm not a leftist by any stretch of your Hatfields' and McCoys fantasy dude......but I do stand strongly against racism...proudly....you can dig up all the double standard comparisons you want...I know what I said , why I said it and who I said it too....and stand by my post.....I'm interracially married and have no tolerance for racism...I'll fight to defend my belief...what exactly are you calling out? My bad behavior? I can live with that.

Did you ever buy your BLM shirt?

 

[theprunetang]

Also, this thread isn't about you bro. This isn't the thread for your perceived mistreatment. You have SEVERAL threads for that. This thread is about an attempted coup on the United States government. Fuck out of here.

 

[The Professional Fan]

Let's be honest here, Ya'll Qaeda needs the "Gubment" more than most of us. I'm sure most of them bought their tickets to DC with welfare checks.

"Ya'll Qaeda" god damn I haven't heard that one. Fucking hilarious.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

You forgot to send me a quote on your sensitivity training class.

And this is EXACTLY the type of smart ass, dismissive response by this individual I alluded to in a previous post. Make stupid and insensitive remarks and then laugh like a stooge when you’re called out. Sorry ABM, there’s already a Donald Trump Jr........and you’re not it.

 

[riverman]

Did you ever buy your BLM shirt?

They are not available at Goodwill yet

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I'm looking forward to the 25th amendment commemorative pens.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

They are not available at Goodwill yet

Just steal one.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

If they forcibly remove him, he becomes a Martyr for the extremist right.

He's already in check with everyone resigning around him, social media censoring him, etc. His hands are basically tied. If you let him fade away, the movement will as well.

But the left loves to try to control things and think they will happen a certain way. And this is where they will fuck it up, and I'm here with a bag of popcorn to watch it happen.

BULLSHIT. That’s just an excuse by spineless politicians to avoid accountability. Right up with “there’s good people on booth sides”. If Trump isn’t held accountable for illegal activities (especially violating the Constitution) the long term bill we will pay will as a country will be far greater than the cost of acting now.

 

[Chris Craig]

@riverman careful with threats to other posters dude

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

BULLSHIT. That’s just an excuse by spineless politicians to avoid accountability. Right up with “there’s good people on booth sides”. If Trump isn’t held accountable for illegal activities (especially violating the Constitution) the long term bill we will pay will as a country will be far greater than the cost of acting now.

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.

 

[Chris Craig]

crickets on this.
Its okay and accepted to threaten violence... as long as you lean left right??


Yeah... this forum isnt biased at all....

Blatant hypocrisy right here....

The post was removed. The poster was warned.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

So you're making fun of people on welfare now? What if you had said the same thing about BLM protestors.

See how that works when you dehumanize those you disagree with. Its not a good strategy, and is why Trump won in the first place. Clinton pissed off people by saying that they were trash, stupid, and what not.

But Clinton was absolutely correct, as the deplorables themselves proved beyond all doubt yesterday.....

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

But Clinton was absolutely correct, as the deplorables themselves proved beyond all doubt yesterday.....

He still won though. And a movement was born. The next version of this, unfortunately, will be more extremist, underground and violent.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

You're in rare form today...

New to the forum, eh........??

 

[Wizard Mentor]

If they forcibly remove him, he becomes a Martyr for the extremist right.

He's already in check with everyone resigning around him, social media censoring him, etc. His hands are basically tied. If you let him fade away, the movement will as well.

But the left loves to try to control things and think they will happen a certain way. And this is where they will fuck it up, and I'm here with a bag of popcorn to watch it happen.

My concern is just the opposite. If no action is taken in the next 2 weeks, In 20 years people will be saying that he was "just another president."

 

[Chris Craig]

Getting personal. Let's try to get back to/ stay to the topic of the thread. Careful with posts aimed at other posters

 

[Chris Craig]

He still won though. And a movement was born. The next version of this, unfortunately, will be more extremist, underground and violent.

Your wet dream huh

 

[riverman]

@riverman careful with threats to other posters dude

I used the word "if" when comparing his post about faking being black by Kamala to my son....that's citing a scenario...not threatening anyone in the present tense...if you did this then I would respond accordingly....if you need to ban me CC...do it. If it makes the conservatives feel more parity here, I'll gladly accept a ban...after yesterday I just don't feel too diplomatic about certain things and I'm protesting until we have resolution in our country again...just imagine what dviss would say to him about that comment

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Really?

That was a fun read of posts.

Trump is being an asshole so some of you decide to fight with each other?

Nice job cleaning stuff up @Chris Craig, thank you.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Getting personal. Let's try to get back to/ stay to the topic of the thread. Careful with posts aimed at other posters

You’re awfully sensitive this morning. And going a tad bit overboard. One poster made a disgusting and insensitive comment to another poster. That poster correctly and firmly called him out. He had EVERY right to do so. and I suspect the majority of forum members would likely agree. So maybe your could lighten up a little bit, factoring in the high emotions that currently exist. If not, a bunch of us are gonna dress up in tactical gear, storm SC2 headquarters and rummage through your desk.......but we’ll leave a quarter for anything we steal........

 

[SlyPokerDog]

You’re awfully sensitive this morning. And going a tad bit overboard. One poster made a disgusting and insensitive comment to another poster. That poster correctly and firmly called him out. He had EVERY right to do so. and I suspect the majority of forum members would likely agree. So maybe your could lighten up a little bit, factoring in the high emotions that currently exist. If not, a bunch of us are gonna dress up in tactical gear, storm SC2 headquarters and rummage through your desk.......but we’ll leave a quarter for anything we steal........

LOL!

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

 

[Propagandist]

He still won though. And a movement was born. The next version of this, unfortunately, will be more extremist, underground and violent.

No way, brother. This is the confederate mindset. We've been a nation divided nearly from the onset. There are some drastically different ideologies at work here, but familiar ones.

 

[RR7]

I do believe he condemned it more than once.

You know, I don't see it. Which is why I said "It's amusing how you say next to nothing about people breaking into the US capital building, your immediate response to all of it is to discuss summer protests. You can pretend like others to condemn both sides, but the hypocrisy shows when you don't ACTUALLY condemn both sides until called out on it. When your first instinct is to call out posters here for their views on what is transpiring/what transpired yesterday, and 'whatabout' it to their presumed stance over the summer."

So today is the day huh?...

okay but then sly would need to ban himself.
Hcp would be banned. I would be banned. Half the forum would be banned.
Lighthearted trolling is a regular occurrence.
I bet i could find a post with you trolling even.

you didnt and i apologize if thats how it came across. I was more so agreeing with you that the rule is somewhat a farce, in that its an opinion rule that is subjective and if it were followed to the T, half the forum would be gone... or more even.

and i will add my post was also round aboutly calling out the double standard. Some posters dont like el presidentes alleged trolling but are perfectly fine with others trolling, as long as they get along.

Some of the same people who bitch about el prez being a troll will like posts from other members clearly trolling.
But thats the politics of the times right?

dismiss what goes along with my narrative and call out those that don't regardless of the same acts being committed.
So goes the hypocrisy of S2.

exactly.

glad you are seeing the light.

i get it. All good. I still think there are some who go after those they dont like here for any ole thing, but let those they like do the same without pushback. And im talking regular posters. Not mods.

im not bitching. Just sayin thats how its been.

what im about to say wont be taken well in here...

im curious if this would have been the same response from the left if one of the vandalizing protestors was shot when they entered the police hq downtown?

Is there a difference? If so please explain, because it seems like the hypocrisy just shot up about 1000% in here.
Not aimed at either of you but just quoting your posts as a point of reference.
Anyhow, im pretty sure the response wouldn't have been “ you break into a government building and you get shot. What did you expect would happen?”

im not saying wither is right or wrong, but saying nothing will ever get fixed if we don't have some consistency.

thats funny. Ive been told that exact statement by some on the left regarding the riots.
If you aren't for me 100% you are against me.
Hell I had a member here say it to me before they up aNd left here and a member i had mucho respect for.
When will we, as average politically aware(some more than others) people, hold the same standards for all???

so far its not even close. Read the tweets. Read this thread. Just sayin...

nothing is ever gonna change until all are held accountable equally no matter political affilation.
It really does start with you and The average people. To hold our leaders of both sodes accountable, but more importantly our fellew citizens. All politicians are citizens and all of our future politicians are current citizens.

nothing changes until it changes in the community first.
We, as average people, must lead more by example, then just sit back and hypocritically call out one side but not the other. we must hold each other accountable as much as our leaders.

when is the day to ask for equal punishment for equal crimes?
Its been asked all summer by others during stressful times? Im not allowed to ask this now during this event?

Im not allowed to state what ive observed?

when am i then?

good. I wish all were like you. But unfortunately you are only one person. Many others dont feel like you do.

absolutely.
Last week i was told i was the enemy simply because i had a discussion with a patriot boy supporter.
I was debating with him. But because i didn't immediately just say you are the enemy to the patriot boy, im now the enemy!!!

About to throw my hands up in the air and accept it. Fuck it. Im your enemy then.

diplomacy out the window. Im just gonna start pointing at anyone who disagrees with me and call them the enemy. Period.

again, you are but one of many and many don't think like you.

I never pointed my finger at any one person.

but read some of the posts. Read the tweets. Its clearly evident there is a double standard within some.

do you really believe that if one of the protesters who broke into police hq was shot and killed in the act of breaking in, there wouldn't have been a massive out cry from the left?

im not buying it.

okay but what does that have to do with holding both sides equally accountable for criminal behavior?

if that is the case then why was there so much support this summer for breaking into government facilities?

i really want to believe and agree with you but history dictates otherwise.

i don't disagree with the bulk of this. However i still feel breaking the law is breaking the law. Whether a legit beef or ignorance and corruption being the facilitating action.
I may be wrong and i will review the best i can, but i swear i recall most people here saying we need to dismiss the vandalism and let them act out. Its what people do when feeling utterly helpless.

now whether legit or not, these magafools in dc feel helpless. they feel corruption within the electorate exists and they protested it.

to me the protests are from the same emotion of feeling helpless and lost, etc.

Again, one side might have more validation for their emotions than the other but that doesnt dismiss illegal activity.
I have been for the peaceful protests from the beginning, but when i drew a line in S2 with my opinions regarding the violence and vandalism, i was pretty much shot down as a borderline racist here. Several people here called me a racist in a round about way.

so im not sure i accept your premise. However i will try to backtrack and validify my opinion.

See above. Im pretty sure you are not a curate of your assessment from this last summer.
But i will backtrack and review before going any further in case im wrong.
I also recall @ABM voicing opposition for the violence and vandalism and was blatantly and pointedly labeled a racist.

You dont feel the media is biased and slants news towards their preferred agenda?


I think its one of the few good things he has done. Our media is almost as corrupt as our government. Spreading fake news from both sides trying to push a biased narrative.

We absolutely need to put a stranglehold on media reports oppressing, dismissing, twisting or flat out changing facts in their articles to meet their view.

Okay. I promise to review this summers activities and posts. If i cant find anything ill happily eat crow. If i find posts backing my stance i fully expect some of you to backtrack and reevaluate what you are currently saying.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

No way, brother. This is the confederate mindset. We've been a nation divided nearly from the onset. There are some drastically different ideologies at work here, but familiar ones.

The traditional White Supremacists attached themselves to the larger MAGA Nation, not the other way around. Most of MAGA are patriots who love America. It was hijacked.

The problem with the left is that they are so infatuated with their own point of view, and to run everyone else off the road.

 

[Natebishop3]

Did you ever buy your BLM shirt?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[Chris Craig]

I used the word "if" when comparing his post about faking being black by Kamala to my son....that's citing a scenario...not threatening anyone in the present tense...if you did this then I would respond accordingly....if you need to ban me CC...do it. If it makes the conservatives feel more parity here, I'll gladly accept a ban...after yesterday I just don't feel too diplomatic about certain things and I'm protesting until we have resolution in our country again...just imagine what dviss would say to him about that comment

I get your reasoning behind your post. I understand your intention. I dont believe you really meant harm. Just trying to keep the peace and do my job as a mod.

 

[Chris Craig]

You’re awfully sensitive this morning. And going a tad bit overboard. One poster made a disgusting and insensitive comment to another poster. That poster correctly and firmly called him out. He had EVERY right to do so. and I suspect the majority of forum members would likely agree. So maybe your could lighten up a little bit, factoring in the high emotions that currently exist. If not, a bunch of us are gonna dress up in tactical gear, storm SC2 headquarters and rummage through your desk.......but we’ll leave a quarter for anything we steal........

I dont disagree. Doing my job.

Also, make sure to leave a menacing note