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This team is looking good for two years from now...Good trade and happy to see they have their eye on the prize.
 
Sorry if this has been posted already but damn the timing of this. Check the timestamp. This tweet was made this morning:

 
Natebishop3 said:
It's not about making trades for the sake of making trades. Come on man..... do you guys seriously think I'm that fucking stupid?

It's about not wasting Dame's prime. The guy dropped a fucking 30 point trip dub tonight. It's about making moves that fit this window, and I really don't see how this move fits our window unless there's something else coming.
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ok...I get that

I'm just wondering what moves are available out there that fit Dame's window. You have to give to get and I don't see anything on the Blazer roster that would get the kind of player you are thinking of. I'm also wondering what exactly it would prove if no moves like that are made

I mean, so far the all-stars moved have been Kyrie and D'Angelo Russell. Two more small guards and Russell isn't really an all-star
 
Natebishop3 said:
Can you do anything other than derelict my balls?
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Over pay is right. I was for resigning him only at a fraction of what he got. He's a low end starter who misses a lot of games and probably should be playing at 20-30 pounds lighter. Was any other team even rumored to be after him?

STOMP
 
STOMP said:
Over pay is right. I was for resigning him only at a fraction of what he got. He's a low end starter who misses a lot of games and probably should be playing at 20-30 pounds lighter. Was any other team even rumored to be after him?

STOMP
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No... certainly not at that price point or contract length.
 
RR7 said:
Ainge just traded 3 players, maybe some as good as Hart, plus 3 2nd round picks, for a 1st round pick 4 years from now, but trading Hart for a lotto protected 1st or 4 2nds is awful. Lol. Gimme a break. Cry more
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That deal is weird as hell. It makes me think that Ainge really wants to compete next year and is valuing cap space to sing some pieces this summer. Not a bad plan if so, just rebuild around their rookie C and Markennan plus free agent signings and a shitload of future draft picks. I get it. Also, any free agent signings can be used as ballast in trades (with the shitload of picks).
 
wizenheimer said:
ok...I get that

I'm just wondering what moves are available out there that fit Dame's window. You have to give to get and I don't see anything on the Blazer roster that would get the kind of player you are thinking of. I'm also wondering what exactly it would prove if no moves like that are made

I mean, so far the all-stars moved have been Kyrie and D'Angelo Russell. Two more small guards and Russell isn't really an all-star
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Ok...... let's zoom out and look at the big picture.

We dealt a borderline All-star guy who was locked up for a while for two expiring guys. We just dumped one for a project and a highly protected pick. The other guy could potentially leave for nothing. We needed the CJ trade to be a home run and it has the possibility to be a real fucking disaster if Grant walks.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Ok...... let's zoom out and look at the big picture.

We dealt a borderline All-star guy who was locked up for a while for two expiring guys. We just dumped one for a project and a highly protected pick. The other guy could potentially leave for nothing. We needed the CJ trade to be a home run and it has the possibility to be a real fucking disaster if Grant walks.
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Grant walking would be a disaster. I saw some report that he’s linked to DET again this summer.

Oh well, it’s my fault my dumb ass thought he could change if he leaves.
 
To anyone in here that thinks they are being so reasonable and patient and realistic, so therefore they are condescendingly lecturing other fans to be the same way.

What the fuck do you think this is? Why don't you try being realistic about how sports fans act? Is this new to you?

In other words just cut it out. I get being impatient with constantly negative people who are this way every day of the year but at the trade deadline, if you take some time and think about it, emotions are going to run high. Calling people out for it is pretty fucking petty but if it makes you feel superior by all means carry on.
 
GP2's Free Agent signing effectively signaled the end of Hart's time in PDX. It cost them nothing in draft capitol or roster talent to acquire Gary and of course there are two more years on his deal. I like that they got some decent draft capitol back for Hart as he's essentially a rental for the Knicks.

STOMP
 
If you think there's any reasonable chance you can't re-sign Grant, you deal him by the deadline.

With all the star power coming to the West, a run this year is out of the question, but there's might be a team willing to overpay to keep up with the Joneses.
 
PCmor7 said:
If you think there's any reasonable chance you can't re-sign Grant, you deal him by the deadline.

With all the star power coming to the West, a run this year is out of the question, but there's might be a team willing to overpay to keep up with the Joneses.
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I'll continue to say this, with zero inside knowledge: The Grant deal was almost certainly locked up many months ago.

Like many Blazer re-signs, I worry it's going to be over market. I'm guessing 5-150.
 
PCmor7 said:
If you think there's any reasonable chance you can't re-sign Grant, you deal him by the deadline.

With all the star power coming to the West, a run this year is out of the question, but there's might be a team willing to overpay to keep up with the Joneses.
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I liked your post but I'm thinking the same. If there isn't a wink wink solid deal with Jerami, already agreed to then we have to trade him and recoup what we can in the next 12 and 3/4 hours.
 
PCmor7 said:
If you think there's any reasonable chance you can't re-sign Grant, you deal him by the deadline.

With all the star power coming to the West, a run this year is out of the question, but there's might be a team willing to overpay to keep up with the Joneses.
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Yup.

i think the grant deal is done. just waiting for july to give him his 5th year.
 
Yes, obviously if there was a backroom deal and already a handshake agreement with Grant, that changes things, hence the part about thinking there's any reasonable chance you won't get him back.
 
robe said:
It does look really similar to something Olshey would do.
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Olshey kind of got us stuck in this mess years ago and we've never been able to dig ourselves out.
 
robe said:
It does look really similar to something Olshey would do.
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There is still over 12 and a half hours. Let's just see how things shake out and then we can talk about what Joe is doing and has done.
 
PCmor7 said:
Olshey kind of got us stuck in this mess years ago and we've never been able to dig ourselves out.
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I'm giving Joe time but all signs point towards him sticking with the Dame/Ant back court and nothing could be more reminiscent of Olshey with the Dame/CJ back court. In this case Cronin could just be lying to Dame and hoping he fades into a high priced backup on a young team but regardless if Cronin is dedicated to the Dame/Ant back court he is either as blind as Olshey or extremely disingenuous with our guy Dame.
 
blazerkor said:
To anyone in here that thinks they are being so reasonable and patient and realistic, so therefore they are condescendingly lecturing other fans to be the same way.

What the fuck do you think this is? Why don't you try being realistic about how sports fans act? Is this new to you?

In other words just cut it out. I get being impatient with constantly negative people who are this way every day of the year but at the trade deadline, if you take some time and think about it, emotions are going to run high. Calling people out for it is pretty fucking petty but if it makes you feel superior by all means carry on.
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I AM REASONABLE AND PATIENT AND REALISTIC, DAMMIT!
 
Natebishop3 said:
Can you fuckers do anything other than snark and hyperbole?
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Bro, you got issues. Calling people fuckers and dumbasses because Josh Hart got traded? You take this shit WAY to serious, like it actually impacts your daily life. Lighten up.
 
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