Jusuf Nurkic (thread)

[SIeepwalker]

Nobody said anything Bad about his defense. He ist Elite in That.

Your German is showing !!

 

[Labinot41]

Your German is showing !!

Haha thats the autocorrection from my Smartphone

 

[B-Roy]

I don't really care about his defensive stats. He passes the eye test.

A lot of the stats has to do with the Blazers being an elite defensive team this year. Dame is 15 in DWS this year, Nurk 18:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2018_leaders.html

(Nurk is 3rd in DRTG here)

Don't really think Dame is a top 15 defender, even if he's not as much of a liability this year.

 

[Mr. Robot]

Don't really think Dame is a top 15 defender, even if he's not as much of a liability this year.

individual DRTG are affected by team defense, so theres your answer about Dames DRTG
(read my post up there)

tomorrow Ill find precise stats on Nurk through the filters and see where he ranks right know

 

[B-Roy]

individual DRTG are affected by team defense, so theres your answer about Dames DRTG
(read my post up there)

tomorrow Ill find precise stats on Nurk through the filters and see where he ranks right know

Yes, I mentioned that a lot of the defensive stats are because the Blazers are an elite defensive team this year.

I don't think it's any one person, but I do think Nurk is the best defender on the team.

 

[Mr. Robot]

Yes, I mentioned that a lot of the defensive stats are because the Blazers are an elite defensive team this year.

I don't think it's any one person, but I do think Nurk is the best defender on the team.

well yes (speaking of Nurk), here you go (second paragraph):

• Out of necessity (owing to a lack of defensive data in the basic boxscore), individual Defensive Ratings are heavily influenced by the team's defensive efficiency. They assume that all teammates are equally good (per minute) at forcing non-steal turnovers and non-block misses, as well as assuming that all teammates face the same number of total possessions per minute.

• Perhaps as a byproduct, big men tend to have the best Defensive Ratings (although Oliver notes that history's best defensive teams were generally anchored by dominant defensive big men, suggesting that those types of players are the most important to a team's defensive success). A corollary to this is that excellent perimeter defenders who don't steal the ball a lot — for instance, Joe Dumars or Doug Christie — are underrated defensively by DRtg, and are prone to look only as good as their team's overall defense performs.

 

[Mr. Robot]

I filtered some datas to get the best possible image about Nurk defense and here you have it:

LINK 1 - Rim Protection
Nurk ranks 3rd in the Rim Protection (Elite Rim Protector)

as you can see when you open the link, I included next datas:

- only C
- starters
- games played (at least 20)
- minutes played per game (25)
- at least 4 DFGA (field goals defended at the rim attempted)

LINK 2 - Overall Defense
Nurk ranks 12th in the Overall Defense in the NBA

as you can see when you open the link, I included next datas:

- only C
- starters
- games played (at least 20)
- at least 10 DFGA (including both rim and perimeter defense)

LINK 3 - Individual DEFRT (Defensive Rating)
Nurk ranks 3rd among C in DEFRTG

Out of necessity (owing to a lack of defensive data in the basic boxscore), individual Defensive Ratings are heavily influenced by the team's defensive efficiency. They assume that all teammates are equally good (per minute) at forcing non-steal turnovers and non-block misses, as well as assuming that all teammates face the same number of total possessions per minute.

Perhaps as a byproduct, big men tend to have the best Defensive Ratings (although Oliver notes that history's best defensive teams were generally anchored by dominant defensive big men, suggesting that those types of players are the most important to a team's defensive success). A corollary to this is that excellent perimeter defenders who don't steal the ball a lot — for instance, Joe Dumars or Doug Christie — are underrated defensively by DRtg, and are prone to look only as good as their team's overall defense performs.

LINK 4 - Team DEFRTG (Defensive Rating)
Portland Trail Blazers rank 5th in the DEFRTG (Nurk is the main reason for this success)

 

[illmatic99]

How relieved are you guys that we didn't throw a max at him this summer?

 

[Blazinaway]

I bet he does.

Can't imagine he gets anywhere close to max, if we paid him that the its worse than any of the awful contracts in the dreaded "summer of 16", he's not showing he's improving at all in the areas we need to see from here

 

[Mr. Robot]

How relieved are you guys that we didn't throw a max at him this summer?

hell get max contract, deal with it
if you have problem with that, you can always want POR to bring some other C

 

[riverman]

Nurk is a baby beast...he's going to grow into a monster...franchise centers like him don't come around very often. He's going to be way better than a lot of bigs in a couple of years

 

[SIeepwalker]

hell get max contract, deal with it
if you have problem with that, you can always want POR to bring some other C

He most likely won't, deal with it.

Also we're Portland fans. We don't want him to get the max because it would be bad for the team. You're only a Nurkic fan, so that's different

 

[riverman]

I think Nurk gets Allan Crabbe money for his first big payday..4 years...he won't get Dame money...he makes the all NBA team for the next few seasons and he will get a max deal on his next contract.

 

[Mr. Robot]

He most likely won't, deal with it.

Also we're Portland fans. We don't want him to get the max because it would be bad for the team. You're only a Nurkic fan, so that's different

nope, Im POR fan, but unlike some of you, I do appreciate players who deserves it and I recognize talent when I see one
there will come time when you all gonna cry when Nurk leaves POR in free agency (after next contract), right in his prime

some of you here dont appreciate him enough, basketball is played on both ends of the floor, not just the offensive end, and years are ahead of him, plenty of time to improve his offensive game... I wish we let him go or trade him, just to see who are we going to bring in... people who think bringing Gasol over would be a good move, are DELUDED !!!!!!!!

you people really deserve scrub Mason fuckin' Plumlee

 

[Mr. Robot]

I think Nurk gets Allan Crabbe money for his first big payday..4 years...he won't get Dame money...he makes the all NBA team for the next few seasons and he will get a max deal on his next contract.

-1

 

[riverman]

you people really deserve scrub Mason fuckin' Plumlee

Speaking of Mason...he's on the trade block...I'd shed Meyers contract to replace him on the bench with Mason...straight across trade

 

[Mr. Robot]

Speaking of Mason...he's on the trade block...I'd shed Meyers contract to replace him on the bench with Mason...straight across trade

not sure if thats american slang, but what does "shed" mean

 

[e_blazer]

not sure if thats american slang, but what does "shed" mean

From Merriam-Webster dictionary:

“to rid oneself of temporarily or permanently as superfluous or unwanted “

 

[tester551]

I think Nurk gets Allan Crabbe money for his first big payday..4 years...he won't get Dame money...he makes the all NBA team for the next few seasons and he will get a max deal on his next contract.

Yep. $17-$20M per year range.

 

[dviss1]

nope, Im POR fan, but unlike some of you, I do appreciate players who deserves it and I recognize talent when I see one
there will come time when you all gonna cry when Nurk leaves POR in free agency (after next contract), right in his prime

some of you here dont appreciate him enough, basketball is played on both ends of the floor, not just the offensive end, and years are ahead of him, plenty of time to improve his offensive game... I wish we let him go or trade him, just to see who are we going to bring in... people who think bringing Gasol over would be a good move, are DELUDED !!!!!!!!

you people really deserve scrub Mason fuckin' Plumlee

This actually sounds like a salty ass Denver fan.

 

[Mr. Robot]

This actually sounds like a salty ass Denver fan.

nobody likes Plumlee, just POR fans and whys that only god knows...

 

[riverman]

not sure if thats american slang, but what does "shed" mean

to get rid of...or a shelter for tools, etc,,,Meyers needs a new team...we need to move him...Mason is just available and knows a lot more about the game than Meyers ever will from what I've seen

 

[riverman]

nobody likes Plumlee, just POR fans and whys that only god knows...

He's like Kyle Korver who's a shooter ..Plumlee .does one thing extremely well...pass the ball...something we are last in the league in

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Nurk was born on August 23. Since I was born on the 26th that means my sign is Nurkic!!!

I'm a Nurkic!!!! Mini dance party!

 

[CupWizier]

One thing I noticed that I wasn't aware of and maybe it's been discussed, but Nurkic's last year is only guaranteed for 4 mil. Not that he likely won't have his option picked up but it shows how much of a team friendly contract Olshey was able to get him to sign.

 

[illmatic99]

Waiiiiiiit. Nurk shares a birthday with Kobe and Jeremy Lin???? #teamvirgo

Whoa.