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I didn’t read everyone’s post but saw a little frustration in first game. He was wide open under the basket (later in game) and I believe Nas took a contested shot. he struggled to find his role that first game hoping they get him more minutes and more involved with 1st unit. You can just visually see he sees the game at different level than some other bigs. I could easily see him being a starter but with Roco in front of him not going to happen.
 
a bench of Little/simons/zeller/mclemore/snell
Aint gonna cut it.
Not unless Little and Simmons make huge jump. Simons looked good that first game and what I like hearing from vets is how they talk about how young guys look during practice (do they stand out, use to hear about ONeal all the time). We are hearing that about Simons so that’s a good sign. Zeller is going to be a very good backup a guy who does all the dirty work so I’m happy with him and Nance. Still think we are one starter away, and really hoping that’s Ben S.

I think Billups vision is to model this team after the old Pistons. Built on defense
 
Based on the above two posts I’m wondering if it’s under-using him for him to be backup 4 playing under 30 minutes?
He's the clear 6th man and the center plays under 30mpg. He can also slide into the starting lineup if any one of 5 starters miss a game, filing in for a frontcourt guy or sliding guys down a position. Let's see how his role is working after 20 games before we worry about him being underutilized.
 
Trade CJ/RoCo for Simmons. Powell goes to his natural position. Nance starts. It makes too much sense!
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Frontline of Simmons/RoCo/Nance - ALL DEFENSE, BABY!

Granted, we'd struggle to score 100, but who doesn't miss the 90s?
 

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hate the thought of losing Roco, his defense is so underrated and really hurts our depth. Plus Nance injury history is concern. I’d rather give up Nas or even AF plus pick or two.
I'm excited to finally have a real 6th man. Haven't had a good one since MO Williams, and Nance can be much better.

Sometimes fans focus too much on starters.

Not saying I'd be against bringing Simmons here, I would fist exhaust all options to use a draft pick or other trade that avoids losing 2 starters.
 
But remember, we'd be losing CJ.
But we’d get a guy who makes the game easier for every single player including Dame. I think that would offset the loss. Guys like Simmons make average guys so much better. It would have to be way more team ball
 
Dame
Powell
Roco
Simmons
Nurk

Ant
???
Nas
Nance jr
Zeller


If we can fill that question mark with a stud or find a rajon Rhondo and slide Ant to the two,

i think thats very solid and very interchangeable.
Id give up cj and 3, 1sts to make it happen. But nothin more.
Our firsts will be back end rounders if this happened because we’d be contenders. So they wont be as big a deal as if we were a lottery team.

make it happen. Cj and three firsts aNd maintain our depth and versatility.
 
Dame
Powell
Roco
Simmons
Nurk

Ant
???
Nas
Nance jr
Zeller


If we can fill that question mark with a stud or find a rajon Rhondo and slide Ant to the two,

i think thats very solid and very interchangeable.
Id give up cj and 3, 1sts to make it happen. But nothin more.
Our firsts will be back end rounders if this happened because we’d be contenders. So they wont be as big a deal as if we were a lottery team.

make it happen. Cj and three firsts aNd maintain our depth and versatility.
Ant is likely playing both backup guard spots mixed in with Norm playing a little backup two and RoCo playing a little backup 3.
 
I think people are vastly overrating the value of pick swaps. Could you end up giving up the #1 overall pick? Sure, it's theoretically possible--it's also theoretically possible to trade CJ for Giannis and end up regretting it if Giannis suffers a career-ending injury the next day. You don't value something by the worst possible scenario you can construct. The expected value of a pick swap, especially years out, is pretty close to 0...the further you move from the current situation, the likelier it is that both teams are somewhere in the middle of the draft. When the starting point for both teams (considering the 76ers will be losing one of their two regular season stars) is already probably around the middle of the draft, that's even more true.

Could the Blazers lose Lillard and end up tanking for several years? Yes, that's possible. It's also possible that Simmons elevates them and they're an easy playoff team for the next four or five years, nearly assuring that those pick swaps are valueless. I think the second scenario is likelier than the first.

Pick swaps are so popular because rules prohibit trading more first-round picks unless you want to go something like a decade into the future (you can't be without a first round pick two years in a row) and so swaps are the next level of draft capital--but they're lottery tickets, not highly valuable assets in and of themselves.
 
If the picks they swap are top 8 protected, and there aren't other picks involved, that's not horrible.
 
When Dame retires the difference between having Simmons or not having him is how high our lotto pick is. He might make the team significantly better playing with Dame (note I said "might"), but he is not an alpha wolf who can carry a team. What team has won a title with their best player being a defensive specialist?
 
When Dame retires the difference between having Simmons or not having him is how high our lotto pick is. He might make the team significantly better playing with Dame (note I said "might"), but he is not an alpha wolf who can carry a team. What team has won a title with their best player being a defensive specialist?

would kobe and mj be considered defensive specialists? I know they were elite offensively but they were also great defenders.
I get your point though.
 
When Dame retires the difference between having Simmons or not having him is how high our lotto pick is. He might make the team significantly better playing with Dame (note I said "might"), but he is not an alpha wolf who can carry a team. What team has won a title with their best player being a defensive specialist?
Blazers-Walton
 
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