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Natebishop3 said:
If you believe the Golliver piece, it was Jody who said no. She wanted to move on. Which is ironic considering he thanked her and not Joe.
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I'm just a little skeptical about the timeline. The story about Dame wanting to rescind his trade request said the ask was made in a meeting on Sept 5. The Golliver story said JA said what she said in a zoom call in early September. Now, it's possible the zoom call was arranged because they knew Cronin was going to be meeting with Dame (and his agent?); and that Cronin may have been anticipating the rescind request from Dame and was asking for direction from JA.

in any event, I don't believe that JA just passed down an edict without full advice from Cronin. I think the 'it's gone to far to come back' stance was from both Cronin and JA. And the 'too far' was a direct response to the actions of Dame's agent, and the likely well founded suspicions that Riley was part of that Miami-or-bust strategy

I've been saying since about the 3rd week in July that my suspicion was that the Blazer front office, and JA, were likely mildly outraged by the actions of Goodwin & Riley and that a trade with Miami was not going to happen. I've seen nothing in the last 3 weeks that disputes that suspicion
 
Natebishop3 said:
If you believe the Golliver piece, it was Jody who said no. She wanted to move on. Which is ironic considering he thanked her and not Joe.
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That was in reference to marketing material.

Doesn't necessarily mean anything for on-court team.
This is a perfect example of correlation does mean causation.
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
That was in reference to marketing material.

Doesn't necessarily mean anything for on-court team.
This is a perfect example of correlation does mean causation.
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that's a good point...I hadn't considered that angle
 
How are with somebody since college but as soon as you get married you can’t last more than a year?
 
AldoTrapani said:
How are with somebody since college but as soon as you get married you can’t last more than a year?
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Who the fuck knows man? Shit happens in life and we don't know this dude even though we've watched him and listened to him for 11 years and we know her even less. There are a million ways how this shit goes down and we don't have the first clue about which of those million ways it did.
 
My only interest in this story is that clearly a lot of shit is happening in his life and that can affect his mindset about how he handled his exit from Portland. With that said, he’s gone and this is his personal life. They need to leave the man alone.
 
I take it his marriage was already on the rocks when he asked for a trade? She wasn't gonna follow him even to Miami possibly?

By asking for a trade it was gonna put distance between Dame and his kids unless he took custody.

Knowing this and for the sake of his kids he would have been better off staying put and getting payed here. Family first!
 
AquaXI said:
I take it his marriage was already on the rocks when he asked for a trade? She wasn't gonna follow him even to Miami possibly?

By asking for a trade it was gonna put distance between Dame and his kids unless he took custody.

Knowing this and for the sake of his kids he would have been better off staying put and getting payed here. Family first!
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Nah! I disagree with this wholeheartedly. If you've watched his IG or the Bucks welcome to him it's pretty fucking clear that when you're as rich as Dame the distance between Portland and Miami or Milwaukee is not something that can come in between you and the people you love most.

He should have done whatever was best for his career and like the rest of us helped his family adapt. I don't know about you but if an opportunity comes in my career I can't wait and my family hopefully moves with me. I assume that Dame has more options open to him than you or I have when relocating his vocation, so I wish the best for him and his family.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Actually, that's a bunch of nothing and more of a negotiation position by her. So far nothing has come out that looks bad IMO. Lillard travels for work and doesn't take the kids with him. What would be bad is if Lillard did bring the kids with him on road trips and made @THE HCP babysit them.
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Dame never took sole care himself of the kids for an hours long period without help from family or nannies? As a parent myself that is shocking. Mom needs some help and at least some small brakes. I'd say any mother who had a partner so little involved would make that mom solely handle 90%+ of all the parenting duties.

Definitely lose some respect for Dame if this is true. A good Dad should be able to watch the kids for a few hours at the least a few times a month. If not then I wouldn't consider that man to be a fully contributing fully invested father. Sure he might contribute money, but being a good Dad is much more than how much money you bring in.

Of course Dame might have a different argument, we'll see what happens.
 
Chris Craig said:
I'm just saying it's none of our business one way or the other. I'm not trying to silence anyone. It's just none of our business period. Trying to question my morality is ridiculous. I'm not someone who arbitrarily applies morality. If you think that, you don't know me from Adam.

Dame and his family have asked for privacy and I intend to respect that request.
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Disagree.

Reading or posting public articles online, public court filings, discussing on this board, social media, etc is not invading their privacy. They are public figures just like Trump, Biden, LeBron, Jody Allen, Billups sexual assault, etc and open to public discussions, criticisms, or opinions. So everyone here is free to post whatever they want on this situation.

If I went to their house or school or work and started making statements or taking photos etc then yes that would be an invasion of privacy.

Posting whatever opinions, support, or criticisms on the situation here is fine and fair game. The Lillard's can choose to look at those reactions online or ignore them.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Dame never took sole care himself of the kids for an hours long period without help from family or nannies? As a parent myself that is shocking. Mom needs some help and at least some small brakes. I'd say any mother who had a partner so little involved would make that mom solely handle 90%+ of all the parenting duties.

Definitely lose some respect for Dame if this is true. A good Dad should be able to watch the kids for a few hours at the least a few times a month. If not then I wouldn't consider that man to be a fully contributing fully invested father. Sure he might contribute money, but being a good Dad is much more than how much money you bring in.

Of course Dame might have a different argument, we'll see what happens.
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Whoa! We've already seen in this off season, that Dame can take all three children and, with the help of family and maybe employees care for his kids. If you weren't there for the IG videos in the Dominican Republic and other places this offseason that Dame had all three kids with him, at the very least you can look at the Milwaukee welcome and see that with help, Dame took care of all three of his kids.

That's not me saying Kay'la doesn't deserve full child support for all three of their kids. I just hope that even if that is the ruling that Dame has full access to his kids in their lives.
 
I work pretty close to the airport. Planes fly over pretty much all day. Every time I see a G-800 I wonder if Dame is in there?
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Actually, that's a bunch of nothing and more of a negotiation position by her. So far nothing has come out that looks bad IMO. Lillard travels for work and doesn't take the kids with him. What would be bad is if Lillard did bring the kids with him on road trips and made @THE HCP babysit them.
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Yes, this is absolutely a negotiation tactic coming from her lawyer, which is exactly why I said it "could get uglier".....unless Dame caves and gives her more money....which I bet he does. He does not want to hurt his brand.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Dame never took sole care himself of the kids for an hours long period without help from family or nannies? As a parent myself that is shocking. Mom needs some help and at least some small brakes. I'd say any mother who had a partner so little involved would make that mom solely handle 90%+ of all the parenting duties.

Definitely lose some respect for Dame if this is true. A good Dad should be able to watch the kids for a few hours at the least a few times a month. If not then I wouldn't consider that man to be a fully contributing fully invested father. Sure he might contribute money, but being a good Dad is much more than how much money you bring in.

Of course Dame might have a different argument, we'll see what happens.
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You can be pretty sure the nanny was helping Mom as well.

Dude makes eff you money. Neither of them are changing diapers unless they're trying to make some kind of statement.
 
It's not just changing diapers. There are countless decisions involved in children and Ms. Lillard is claiming they all fell on her. She hired the nanny, found doctor and dentist, selected preschool, supervised activities, etc. without any assistance from him. Obviously I don't know how true that is.
 
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